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Please see the discussion at Module talk:Footnotes/Archive 1 § broken harv link reporting where a broken harv-link reporting scheme is proposed.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 17:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
I ran into a problem trying to make a change in one cite in the United States Military Government of the Philippine Islands article, changing a one-page citation to cite two pages, changing p= to pp= with an externally-linked pageno or pageno range, so I did not make the change. With pp=, there seems to be a problem with the semicolon character in the linked url, but not with p=. Following is the cite copied from the article, both with and without the change:.
Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 19:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
{{Harvnb|Kalaw|1927|pp=[https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/philamer/afj2233.0001.001/473 453–454]}}
%3B
(see
percent-encoding):
{{Harvnb|Kalaw|1927|pp=[http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer%3Bcc=philamer%3Bidno=afj2233.0001.001%3Bfrm=frameset%3Bview=image%3Bseq=473%3Bpage=root%3Bsize=s 453–454]}}
Thanks for all of that. I took the url as I found it in the article, though I vaguely remember finding that book with a web search years ago and linking urls based on that. I probably never would have found that https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/...etc. urls. I'll probably revisit this in the article and perhaps in other articles citing that book. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:59, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Currently, at the List of Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, all the entries for DDG-85 to DDG-112 have a note "c", and the entry for DDG-127 has a note "d". These two notes use the Havard citation, but they are in brackets without ref tags, (wasn't that deprecated?) Anyway, the first note has, in full size text, the author's last name and publicatiom year, while the second note, again in full size, has the publisher name and publication year, (isn't the preference to have a small superscripted alpha-numeric digit?) These notes are hyperlinked, but they do not work. At least for me, on desktop mode on my mobile, clicking the link doesn't take me to the full entry below. (But, hovering over the note/link sometimes shows me the full ref in a hover box. Is that the goal here?) I played around with it a little, trying to get these harvard notes to look and behave like other refs, but... nada. But this is why I'm sure is this is a problem or not. Perhaps someone here more savvy with this particular markup could take a look, determine if there is indeed a problem, and if so, hopefully fix it. Thanks (sorry about the length) - wolf 14:12, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
{{
harvnb}}
template is not deprecated, but
parenthetical referencing is. I suspect that harvnb has been used here because the four notes are in the form of {{
efn}}
wrapped in
WP:LDR, and this doesn't play nicely with notes that contain refs of either the <ref>...</ref>
or {{
sfn}}
form. If the {{
efn}}
s were moved to be in the tables, with a simple {{
notelist}}
at the bottom and no attempt to use LDR, it should then be possible to use non-parenthetical refs. See
Talk:Arleigh Burke-class destroyer#Alternative notes. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 16:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
The "Further reading" section of the article Spinor is currently ( permalink) full of these error messages. What do they mean, and how can one make them go away? Thanks, Jheald ( talk) 14:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Module talk:Footnotes § loc, at.
Rjjiii (
talk) 02:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Harvard citation no brackets is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
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edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's
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This page has archives. Sections older than 90 days may be automatically archived by ClueBot III when more than 5 sections are present. |
Please see the discussion at Module talk:Footnotes/Archive 1 § broken harv link reporting where a broken harv-link reporting scheme is proposed.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 17:46, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
I ran into a problem trying to make a change in one cite in the United States Military Government of the Philippine Islands article, changing a one-page citation to cite two pages, changing p= to pp= with an externally-linked pageno or pageno range, so I did not make the change. With pp=, there seems to be a problem with the semicolon character in the linked url, but not with p=. Following is the cite copied from the article, both with and without the change:.
Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 19:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
{{Harvnb|Kalaw|1927|pp=[https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/philamer/afj2233.0001.001/473 453–454]}}
%3B
(see
percent-encoding):
{{Harvnb|Kalaw|1927|pp=[http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer%3Bcc=philamer%3Bidno=afj2233.0001.001%3Bfrm=frameset%3Bview=image%3Bseq=473%3Bpage=root%3Bsize=s 453–454]}}
Thanks for all of that. I took the url as I found it in the article, though I vaguely remember finding that book with a web search years ago and linking urls based on that. I probably never would have found that https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/...etc. urls. I'll probably revisit this in the article and perhaps in other articles citing that book. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:59, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Currently, at the List of Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, all the entries for DDG-85 to DDG-112 have a note "c", and the entry for DDG-127 has a note "d". These two notes use the Havard citation, but they are in brackets without ref tags, (wasn't that deprecated?) Anyway, the first note has, in full size text, the author's last name and publicatiom year, while the second note, again in full size, has the publisher name and publication year, (isn't the preference to have a small superscripted alpha-numeric digit?) These notes are hyperlinked, but they do not work. At least for me, on desktop mode on my mobile, clicking the link doesn't take me to the full entry below. (But, hovering over the note/link sometimes shows me the full ref in a hover box. Is that the goal here?) I played around with it a little, trying to get these harvard notes to look and behave like other refs, but... nada. But this is why I'm sure is this is a problem or not. Perhaps someone here more savvy with this particular markup could take a look, determine if there is indeed a problem, and if so, hopefully fix it. Thanks (sorry about the length) - wolf 14:12, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
{{
harvnb}}
template is not deprecated, but
parenthetical referencing is. I suspect that harvnb has been used here because the four notes are in the form of {{
efn}}
wrapped in
WP:LDR, and this doesn't play nicely with notes that contain refs of either the <ref>...</ref>
or {{
sfn}}
form. If the {{
efn}}
s were moved to be in the tables, with a simple {{
notelist}}
at the bottom and no attempt to use LDR, it should then be possible to use non-parenthetical refs. See
Talk:Arleigh Burke-class destroyer#Alternative notes. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk) 16:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
The "Further reading" section of the article Spinor is currently ( permalink) full of these error messages. What do they mean, and how can one make them go away? Thanks, Jheald ( talk) 14:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Module talk:Footnotes § loc, at.
Rjjiii (
talk) 02:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)