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On 13 August 2022, it was proposed that this page be moved to Template:Google search. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
This template has survived TfD, with no consensus. See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 February 11 for details. - Mailer Diablo 11:09, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Doesn't work with multi-word queries. Pimlottc 06:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
urlencode:
magic word to the template. --
Teratornis (
talk) 20:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)Template:Google has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Kungming2 00:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I just created this one for better convenience without passing arguments, but on second thought, perhaps it would be better to screw with the template syntax to make Template:Google do this automatically if there is no argument, effectively merging the concepts? It would certainly help to unify and improve the endeavor. Also, why not make the link text more descriptive than just the basic argument being passed? This seems counter-intuitive to me and misrepresents the fact that this is a google link. Please give input or feel free to contact me; if there is no input on the matter, I will assume there are no objections and will attempt it myself. (|-- UlTiMuS 23:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
(undent) But a substitution tends to obliterate from the wikitext any obvious sign that a user substituted text from a template. This makes Wikipedia less self-documenting and thus harder for new users to learn. That is, a user who does not know about the {{ Google}} template will have a difficult time learning about it merely by reading someone else's substitution of it. That's why I like transclusion; a user can look at the wikitext and see exactly how another user did something. One of my favorite features of Wikipedia is how we can learn from each other's wikitext, and substitution defeats this. What exactly do you mean by "bad news", and how bad is it? Many instances of {{ Google}} will be on talk pages which tend to get archived anyway. Has anyone actually caused old transluded instances of {{ Google}} to create problems on pages by editing the template? -- Teratornis ( talk) 21:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I've undone this edit. The "safety level" is a user option. I don't think we have any right to override that. — Nricardo 06:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't the site parameter be useful here? I know it can be put inside the query, but that way we would be able to obtain statistics someday (plus makes the usage clearer). -- ReyBrujo ( talk) 12:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
There's a note in /doc explaining how to insert an equals sign using Template:=, but the wording seems to imply that use of the Google Calculator requires that trailing equals sign. Actually, the = is only necessary if you need to hint to Google that this is an expression to evaluate - 1 pound in kilograms and 1 lb in kg both work fine. Is there a way to say this without it getting too verbose? Rosuav ( talk) 05:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. ( non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 17:04, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Template:Google → Template:Google search – for further clarification. PK2 ( talk) 06:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 13:17, 13 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 18:26, 20 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 08:53, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
discussion moved from
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{{
search Google}}
since this is an external links template used to search on Google. "Google Search" is a particular part of Google used for search, so could be construed to be a topic template used to interlink the topics of the Google front page, Google Page Rank, etc. "Goolge" is a subsidiary of Alphabet so could be construed to be a corporate template for the company called Google --
64.229.88.43 (
talk) 23:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
{{
Google search}}
as proposed, per my prior comments (some of which are hatted above from
WP:RMTR). The current name can be retained as an alias. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 16:21, 5 September 2022 (UTC)This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Google template. |
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Google Template‑class | ||||||||||||||
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Internet Template‑class | |||||||
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On 13 August 2022, it was proposed that this page be moved to Template:Google search. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
This template has survived TfD, with no consensus. See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 February 11 for details. - Mailer Diablo 11:09, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Doesn't work with multi-word queries. Pimlottc 06:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
urlencode:
magic word to the template. --
Teratornis (
talk) 20:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)Template:Google has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Kungming2 00:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I just created this one for better convenience without passing arguments, but on second thought, perhaps it would be better to screw with the template syntax to make Template:Google do this automatically if there is no argument, effectively merging the concepts? It would certainly help to unify and improve the endeavor. Also, why not make the link text more descriptive than just the basic argument being passed? This seems counter-intuitive to me and misrepresents the fact that this is a google link. Please give input or feel free to contact me; if there is no input on the matter, I will assume there are no objections and will attempt it myself. (|-- UlTiMuS 23:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
(undent) But a substitution tends to obliterate from the wikitext any obvious sign that a user substituted text from a template. This makes Wikipedia less self-documenting and thus harder for new users to learn. That is, a user who does not know about the {{ Google}} template will have a difficult time learning about it merely by reading someone else's substitution of it. That's why I like transclusion; a user can look at the wikitext and see exactly how another user did something. One of my favorite features of Wikipedia is how we can learn from each other's wikitext, and substitution defeats this. What exactly do you mean by "bad news", and how bad is it? Many instances of {{ Google}} will be on talk pages which tend to get archived anyway. Has anyone actually caused old transluded instances of {{ Google}} to create problems on pages by editing the template? -- Teratornis ( talk) 21:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I've undone this edit. The "safety level" is a user option. I don't think we have any right to override that. — Nricardo 06:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't the site parameter be useful here? I know it can be put inside the query, but that way we would be able to obtain statistics someday (plus makes the usage clearer). -- ReyBrujo ( talk) 12:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
There's a note in /doc explaining how to insert an equals sign using Template:=, but the wording seems to imply that use of the Google Calculator requires that trailing equals sign. Actually, the = is only necessary if you need to hint to Google that this is an expression to evaluate - 1 pound in kilograms and 1 lb in kg both work fine. Is there a way to say this without it getting too verbose? Rosuav ( talk) 05:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. ( non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 17:04, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Template:Google → Template:Google search – for further clarification. PK2 ( talk) 06:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 13:17, 13 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 18:26, 20 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky ( talk) 08:53, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
discussion moved from
WP:RM/TR
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{{
search Google}}
since this is an external links template used to search on Google. "Google Search" is a particular part of Google used for search, so could be construed to be a topic template used to interlink the topics of the Google front page, Google Page Rank, etc. "Goolge" is a subsidiary of Alphabet so could be construed to be a corporate template for the company called Google --
64.229.88.43 (
talk) 23:02, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
{{
Google search}}
as proposed, per my prior comments (some of which are hatted above from
WP:RMTR). The current name can be retained as an alias. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 16:21, 5 September 2022 (UTC)