Graf is not a title. It is just part of the last name of a person as titles of nobilities were abolished in Germany in 1919. 85.179.38.171 ( talk) 08:45, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
- This is true of modern people called "Graf", but certainly not of historical people who held the title of Graf. Wikipedia doesn't only talk about the present. Hairy Dude ( talk) 22:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- I've changed the template to account for the contemporary situation in Germany. Hairy Dude ( talk) 23:07, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
What is the intended usage of this template? Where should it go? Hairy Dude ( talk) 22:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Second: I often seen, that this templated is used in articles of Austrian persons — that's wrong, because in Austria since Adelsaufhebungsgesetz ( de:Adelsaufhebungsgesetz) of 3 April 1919 nobility itself and also all nobility titles/attributes abolished. Different than in Germany noble titles in Austria were not part of the name. Elisabeth59 ( talk) 05:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Graf is not a title. It is just part of the last name of a person as titles of nobilities were abolished in Germany in 1919. 85.179.38.171 ( talk) 08:45, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
- This is true of modern people called "Graf", but certainly not of historical people who held the title of Graf. Wikipedia doesn't only talk about the present. Hairy Dude ( talk) 22:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- I've changed the template to account for the contemporary situation in Germany. Hairy Dude ( talk) 23:07, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
What is the intended usage of this template? Where should it go? Hairy Dude ( talk) 22:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Second: I often seen, that this templated is used in articles of Austrian persons — that's wrong, because in Austria since Adelsaufhebungsgesetz ( de:Adelsaufhebungsgesetz) of 3 April 1919 nobility itself and also all nobility titles/attributes abolished. Different than in Germany noble titles in Austria were not part of the name. Elisabeth59 ( talk) 05:28, 12 February 2020 (UTC)