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This is a list of people who are given these categories in the Secret History of the Mongols, and is widely used in Mongolian historiography. It should probably be merged with Template:High-ranking ministers and commanders of the Mongol Empire someday. -- chinneeb- talk 17:44, 8 April 2012 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the template. However, Kublai Khan was not one of the "four dogs" of Genghis Khan, but another one with a same name (sometimes spelled as Qubilai). -- Chinyin ( talk) 18:18, 8 April 2012 (UTC) reply

That would make sense. I don't have a Mongolian script copy of the Secret history with me, I've been consulting the Cyrillic version. A source would be appreciated. -- chinneeb- talk 21:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC) reply

Sorry I could not find a reliable source for it for now, though I think I'm personally pretty sure about this particular point. It may also be useful to think of it in another way: as a grandson of Genghis Khan, if Kublai Khan were indeed one of his "four dogs", there should be plenty references about it, but I have never found any traces of this when looking at any articles for Kublai Khan. But still, I will let you know if I'm able to find more direct sources for this. Thanks. -- Chinyin ( talk) 00:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC) reply

Eh, simple arithmetic will suffice. Kublai Khan was 12 years old when Genghis died. -- chinneeb- talk 05:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC) reply

Should I change the name so that "Kublai" is spelt correctly? This then wouldn't be a link, unless a page for this specific Kublai here. Compassionate727 ( talk) 17:15, 6 May 2015 (UTC) reply