I'm using this template in our local wiki Wyfopedia and I have come accross an uncontested election. How do you handle uncontested elections? -- Tavis Pitt 11:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Pages like Labour Party (UK)/meta/color should not be in the main namespace. If they are, then they will be treated as articles and show up in places like Special:Shortpages. Is there any reason for them not to all be moved to the template namespace since they are being used as templates? Angela . 12:26, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
Any reason why the American spelling of color/colour was chosen? Jooler 11:52, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is the percentage change for the candidate, the party or either? For instance, a constituency I just edited has a candidate who has switched allegiance to a new party (that has not had candidates there before)? Should I put the candidate's change in votes based on his previous party? Possibly, in cases like this, we should put both to make it clear.
-- Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 13:18, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be some way of saying who the swing is too (as this isn't immediately obvious)?
Also, maybe "swing" should be linked to a definition of the term.
--13:18, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
Is anyone able to produce result boxes for:
Ideally I'd go for "treat the by-election as just another election", but this can cause confusion, especially when boundaries change and because gains/losses are traditionally measured against the last general election. Timrollpickering 14:34, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Can we have this somewhere as it is quite interesting and it makes it clear why the turnout is greater than the sum of the votes for each candidate? I don't think there is any point in having the percentages for different types of spoiling (i.e.: unstamped, multiple votes, voter identifiable, unmarked or uncertain). -- Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 19:05, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
The rules for doing these (and other) calculations need to be made clearer; in fact, IMO, we should find a way to get the templates to do all the calculations automatically from the raw vote numbers, because editors will probably not stick to the rules.
For the percentages for change in majority and/or turnout, do we put:
Also, is the turnout as a proportion of those registered and/or those eligible to register, and is the majority that of the incumbent and/or the winner? -- Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 19:05, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
I suggest renaming "majority" into "margin of victory". It's unclear if the number for the majority row should be the excess votes for the winner over the runner-up or over the half-way mark. In a multi-way race, the victor might not even have a majority. -- JLM ( talk) 15:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
There's been considerable discussion about the partyName/meta/color pages and I think it's probably now time to put forward a proposal for renaming them.
In the discussions about this mechanism the following issues and questions have been raised:
Pages of this kind that contain non-parameterised information fragments that are intended to be included in the body of a main article should be, in general, named as follows:
Template:group/identifier(s)/attribute
In the case of political parties used by the Election box templates (inter alia) the pages should be named:
Template:Political party/articleName/attribute
For example:
Since searching of the Template namespace is not easy, an index page should be created at the group level listing all of the entries for that group and enumerate the attributes that are being used. eg Template:Political party might contain:
Attributes: */color - the value for an html color attribute */shortName - the common name or abbreviation in a local context Members: /Labour Party (UK) /Labour Party (UK)/color /Labour Party (UK)/shortName /Conservative Party (UK) /Conservative Party (UK)/color /Conservative Party (UK)/shortName
In addition, the talk page of each referenced page should provide a link to each of the meta data pages for ease of reference and maintenance.
The existing Election box templates can easily be changed to use the new naming scheme. Approximately 30 meta data pages exist in the article namespace that would need to replicated under the new names before the Election box templates could be modified.
Other templates that duplicate this information, such as Template:British politics/party colours/Labour which contains bgcolor="#CC0000" should be modified to:
bgcolor="{{Political party/Labour Party (UK)/color}}"
This seems like a really good idea to me - I've created metadata for some results from the 1997 election that I was filling in today, and they've both been marked for speedy deletion. >:-( Should I be working differently for now, or is this a work in progress? Vashti 19:09, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm using this template in our local wiki Wyfopedia and I have come accross an uncontested election. How do you handle uncontested elections? -- Tavis Pitt 11:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Pages like Labour Party (UK)/meta/color should not be in the main namespace. If they are, then they will be treated as articles and show up in places like Special:Shortpages. Is there any reason for them not to all be moved to the template namespace since they are being used as templates? Angela . 12:26, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
Any reason why the American spelling of color/colour was chosen? Jooler 11:52, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is the percentage change for the candidate, the party or either? For instance, a constituency I just edited has a candidate who has switched allegiance to a new party (that has not had candidates there before)? Should I put the candidate's change in votes based on his previous party? Possibly, in cases like this, we should put both to make it clear.
-- Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 13:18, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be some way of saying who the swing is too (as this isn't immediately obvious)?
Also, maybe "swing" should be linked to a definition of the term.
--13:18, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
Is anyone able to produce result boxes for:
Ideally I'd go for "treat the by-election as just another election", but this can cause confusion, especially when boundaries change and because gains/losses are traditionally measured against the last general election. Timrollpickering 14:34, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Can we have this somewhere as it is quite interesting and it makes it clear why the turnout is greater than the sum of the votes for each candidate? I don't think there is any point in having the percentages for different types of spoiling (i.e.: unstamped, multiple votes, voter identifiable, unmarked or uncertain). -- Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 19:05, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
The rules for doing these (and other) calculations need to be made clearer; in fact, IMO, we should find a way to get the templates to do all the calculations automatically from the raw vote numbers, because editors will probably not stick to the rules.
For the percentages for change in majority and/or turnout, do we put:
Also, is the turnout as a proportion of those registered and/or those eligible to register, and is the majority that of the incumbent and/or the winner? -- Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 19:05, 2005 May 6 (UTC)
I suggest renaming "majority" into "margin of victory". It's unclear if the number for the majority row should be the excess votes for the winner over the runner-up or over the half-way mark. In a multi-way race, the victor might not even have a majority. -- JLM ( talk) 15:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
There's been considerable discussion about the partyName/meta/color pages and I think it's probably now time to put forward a proposal for renaming them.
In the discussions about this mechanism the following issues and questions have been raised:
Pages of this kind that contain non-parameterised information fragments that are intended to be included in the body of a main article should be, in general, named as follows:
Template:group/identifier(s)/attribute
In the case of political parties used by the Election box templates (inter alia) the pages should be named:
Template:Political party/articleName/attribute
For example:
Since searching of the Template namespace is not easy, an index page should be created at the group level listing all of the entries for that group and enumerate the attributes that are being used. eg Template:Political party might contain:
Attributes: */color - the value for an html color attribute */shortName - the common name or abbreviation in a local context Members: /Labour Party (UK) /Labour Party (UK)/color /Labour Party (UK)/shortName /Conservative Party (UK) /Conservative Party (UK)/color /Conservative Party (UK)/shortName
In addition, the talk page of each referenced page should provide a link to each of the meta data pages for ease of reference and maintenance.
The existing Election box templates can easily be changed to use the new naming scheme. Approximately 30 meta data pages exist in the article namespace that would need to replicated under the new names before the Election box templates could be modified.
Other templates that duplicate this information, such as Template:British politics/party colours/Labour which contains bgcolor="#CC0000" should be modified to:
bgcolor="{{Political party/Labour Party (UK)/color}}"
This seems like a really good idea to me - I've created metadata for some results from the 1997 election that I was filling in today, and they've both been marked for speedy deletion. >:-( Should I be working differently for now, or is this a work in progress? Vashti 19:09, 8 May 2005 (UTC)