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I have edited the sandbox version of this template to use
Module:template wrapper. ~/sandbox uses {{
cite EB1911/sandbox}}
which is a proposed replacement for {{
cite EB1911}}
.
There is a
~/testcases page for this template. None of the comparisons agree. The reasons for most of these disagreements are listed at
Template talk:Cite EB1911 § use template wrapper. At testcase 7, the bogus positional parameter parameter 1
is passed to {{cite EB1911}}
which passes it to {{
cite encyclopedia}}
which calls
Module:Citation/CS1 which emits the Text "parameter 1" ignored error message. There is no error message for ~/sandbox because Module:template wrapper does not pass positional parameters to the working template (in this case {{cite EB1911/sandbox}}
).
{{{1|}}}
is not a documented parameter. Does it have a purpose? ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with an unnamed parameter is empty. Is there any reason, either here or at {{cite EB1911}}
, to retain this parameter and its associated code and category?
Pending the answer to the above question and without objection to updating Template:cite EB1911, I shall update live template to the code in ~/sandbox.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 15:58, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
{{{1|}}}
and ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with an unnamed parameter removed, live template updated.I ran across
Act of Sederunt which
currently has {{
EB1911}} with |title=
, but it doesn't appear in
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica without Wikisource reference. Should it be so included, or am I misunderstanding something? I realize the template just wraps {{
Cite EB1911}}, but that shouldn't make a difference.
David Brooks (
talk)
16:32, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
<!--...-->
tags, it won't be executed so won't add the category.Because {{ Hide in print}} is tfd'd, citations that use {{ EB1911}} display two annoying flags (one of them because it wraps {{ Cite EB1911}}, which is also afflicted). I assume the usage is obsolete but can't see exactly how to fix either of them, so can a template-coding expert remove them safely? @ PBS, Trappist the monk, Headbomb, and Jonesey95: can one of you help? David Brooks ( talk) 19:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
{{
hide in print}}
to:
{{
EB1911}}
at
this edit{{
cite EB1911}}
at
this edit{{
cite EB1911}}
has this:
{{hide in print|1=
<!--
optional icon - included by default
-->{{#if:{{{no-icon|{{{noicon|}}}}}}||{{#ifeq: {{{wstitle|}}}||[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|alt=|link=]] }}}}<!-- optional public domain icon when wstitle is missing or empty
-->}}
{{cite EB1911}}
is, as I understand it, a 'normal' citation template, really just like any of the cs1|2 templates, so why does it have the public-domain icon when a wikisource page is not provided? {{
EB1911}}
on the other hand, is an attribution template so perhaps icons (wikisource and public domain) are more appropriate for instances of that template.{{cite ...}}
wrapper-templates (usually paired with an attribution-type template) that have similar icon handling. Do the {{cite ...}}
members of these template pairs really need the public domain icon? I'm thinking that public domain icon support in the various {{cite ...}}
wrapper templates should go away.In my opinion it would make sense to add class=noviewer
to the logo. There's no reason for it to appear in the Media Viewer. --
Nachtbold (
talk)
14:02, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
class=noviewer
, but the public domain symbol is not. Thus it unnecessarily appears in the media viewer; multiple times so if the template is used more than once. --
Nachtbold (
talk)
11:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
|class=noviewer
, set all |alt=
to appropriate values, and set |link=
to empty so that the icons aren't linkable. I guess I don't understand what you mean by it unnecessarily appears in the media viewer. If I enable media viewer in my preferences and look at Apollo, I don't see the pd icon in the media viewer unless I click on it. What do you mean by
appears in the media viewer?
|class=noviewer
to the pd icon file markup, still allowed me to click on it:
[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|alt=Public Domain]]
– as it exists in live template right now[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|class=noviewer|alt=Public Domain]]
– add |class=noviewer
[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|link=|alt=Public Domain]]
– add |link=
[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|class=noviewer|link=|alt=Public Domain]]
– add |class=noviewer
and |link=
|class=noviewer
, the pd icon is included in the scroll. Is that what you are saying?|class=noviewer
to this and about 120 other citation-like templates (includes sandboxen). There are others but those are outside of my expertise so I leave them to others.What on earth does "Set to wstitle= if set, if not to title= if set, if not to article= if set, if not set then left blank." mean? Or rather, as it clearly means nothing, what is it meant to mean? DuncanHill ( talk) 04:10, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
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I have edited the sandbox version of this template to use
Module:template wrapper. ~/sandbox uses {{
cite EB1911/sandbox}}
which is a proposed replacement for {{
cite EB1911}}
.
There is a
~/testcases page for this template. None of the comparisons agree. The reasons for most of these disagreements are listed at
Template talk:Cite EB1911 § use template wrapper. At testcase 7, the bogus positional parameter parameter 1
is passed to {{cite EB1911}}
which passes it to {{
cite encyclopedia}}
which calls
Module:Citation/CS1 which emits the Text "parameter 1" ignored error message. There is no error message for ~/sandbox because Module:template wrapper does not pass positional parameters to the working template (in this case {{cite EB1911/sandbox}}
).
{{{1|}}}
is not a documented parameter. Does it have a purpose? ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with an unnamed parameter is empty. Is there any reason, either here or at {{cite EB1911}}
, to retain this parameter and its associated code and category?
Pending the answer to the above question and without objection to updating Template:cite EB1911, I shall update live template to the code in ~/sandbox.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 15:58, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
{{{1|}}}
and ‹The
template
Category link is being
considered for merging.›
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with an unnamed parameter removed, live template updated.I ran across
Act of Sederunt which
currently has {{
EB1911}} with |title=
, but it doesn't appear in
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica without Wikisource reference. Should it be so included, or am I misunderstanding something? I realize the template just wraps {{
Cite EB1911}}, but that shouldn't make a difference.
David Brooks (
talk)
16:32, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
<!--...-->
tags, it won't be executed so won't add the category.Because {{ Hide in print}} is tfd'd, citations that use {{ EB1911}} display two annoying flags (one of them because it wraps {{ Cite EB1911}}, which is also afflicted). I assume the usage is obsolete but can't see exactly how to fix either of them, so can a template-coding expert remove them safely? @ PBS, Trappist the monk, Headbomb, and Jonesey95: can one of you help? David Brooks ( talk) 19:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
{{
hide in print}}
to:
{{
EB1911}}
at
this edit{{
cite EB1911}}
at
this edit{{
cite EB1911}}
has this:
{{hide in print|1=
<!--
optional icon - included by default
-->{{#if:{{{no-icon|{{{noicon|}}}}}}||{{#ifeq: {{{wstitle|}}}||[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|alt=|link=]] }}}}<!-- optional public domain icon when wstitle is missing or empty
-->}}
{{cite EB1911}}
is, as I understand it, a 'normal' citation template, really just like any of the cs1|2 templates, so why does it have the public-domain icon when a wikisource page is not provided? {{
EB1911}}
on the other hand, is an attribution template so perhaps icons (wikisource and public domain) are more appropriate for instances of that template.{{cite ...}}
wrapper-templates (usually paired with an attribution-type template) that have similar icon handling. Do the {{cite ...}}
members of these template pairs really need the public domain icon? I'm thinking that public domain icon support in the various {{cite ...}}
wrapper templates should go away.In my opinion it would make sense to add class=noviewer
to the logo. There's no reason for it to appear in the Media Viewer. --
Nachtbold (
talk)
14:02, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
class=noviewer
, but the public domain symbol is not. Thus it unnecessarily appears in the media viewer; multiple times so if the template is used more than once. --
Nachtbold (
talk)
11:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
|class=noviewer
, set all |alt=
to appropriate values, and set |link=
to empty so that the icons aren't linkable. I guess I don't understand what you mean by it unnecessarily appears in the media viewer. If I enable media viewer in my preferences and look at Apollo, I don't see the pd icon in the media viewer unless I click on it. What do you mean by
appears in the media viewer?
|class=noviewer
to the pd icon file markup, still allowed me to click on it:
[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|alt=Public Domain]]
– as it exists in live template right now[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|class=noviewer|alt=Public Domain]]
– add |class=noviewer
[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|link=|alt=Public Domain]]
– add |link=
[[File:PD-icon.svg|12px|class=noviewer|link=|alt=Public Domain]]
– add |class=noviewer
and |link=
|class=noviewer
, the pd icon is included in the scroll. Is that what you are saying?|class=noviewer
to this and about 120 other citation-like templates (includes sandboxen). There are others but those are outside of my expertise so I leave them to others.What on earth does "Set to wstitle= if set, if not to title= if set, if not to article= if set, if not set then left blank." mean? Or rather, as it clearly means nothing, what is it meant to mean? DuncanHill ( talk) 04:10, 13 December 2022 (UTC)