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I can see some point to this, and for Dublin, I like the name "residential areas" better than "Towns and Villages" (I argued before for "Towns, Villages and Suburbs"), but as there is also a category, and other structures, I would like to ask what prior discussion there was on this idea, and the value it adds? Also, it divides into Northside and Southside - these are already complex concepts here, as the ideas differ from the pure geographic, and anyway today much of new Dublin development is in the west of the urban zone, and would traditionally not have figured in any Northside / Southside divide (Lucan, for example). I'm not opposed, but I do think this idea and its implementation need to be debated. SeoR ( talk) 08:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I got the idea of creating this template from the templates of the boroughs of New York. I thought it would be a good idea to have such a template for Dublin since most areas already had a page on WP. I took the list from the Northside and Southside pages. If anybody feels an area should be added or taken off from the template you might want to add/remove it from those pages as well, so we have a minimum of consistency. As for the NS/SS question, I agree that Dublin has changed so much in the last 10 years or so, that maybe we shouldn't bother with NS and SS anymore. But since the list was taken from 2 pages I thought I'd divide the template into 2 sections. Initially I was thinking of creating a section for each postal code but then I quickly realised it would be a nightmare as some areas spread over 2 or 3 PC and some spread over Co. Dublin. Saebhiar Adishatz 02:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
There are some areas with pages that are not included in the template, Smithfield for example. I would add them but i don't know how.
Please add kilmore to the campaign box Thanks-- Babestress ( talk) 14:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I have added in a few more obscure ones such as Man O'War. I have also added Chapelizod in to the Northside. It being probably the only area which spans both sides of the river.
I will look at setting up Wikipedia pages for Stawberry beds and Summerhill which I feel are sufficiently worthy of their own. Financefactz ( talk) 14:51, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
What precisely was wrong with the following additions
What are we defining as Dublin City. I thought it was just residential areas of County Dublin as the title defines it as North and South of the river. The title is just Dublin residential areas. I see you've left in a lot of the additions such as the Naul and Lusk. I would really struggle to see how Balbriggan isn't a residential area of Dublin under any criteria due to its size and history and connections via city bus and train services.
I think Wikipedia is really just about having verifiable facts and it helps if there is a consensus. What are the criteria for something being regarded as residential. I would regard it as being residential if someone has ever lived there. Thus Ireland's Eye makes the cut in that criteria or possibly if it was more strict we could say if someone is currently living their then it wouldn't make the cut but Lambay Island would as it still has the Barings Family residing there]].
I would be inclined to have the list as exhaustive as reasonably possible. For example you could say that Bayside is possibly a part of either Sutton or Kilbarrack but because it is quite large it could be viewed as its own area and should be included. Generally if a place is sufficiently large then it will have just the name of the area before Dublin in the street address. Usually for people living in the Brackenstown area of Swords I have seen Brackenstown, Swords, Co. Dublin but have also seen letters addressed to just Brackenstown, Co. Dublin so would be inclined to leave it in.
I'm not really too bothered what the criteria is as long as it isn't a secret or just "whatever the person editing it feel is the criteria at a given time". That way if it doesn't fit in this list then it can fit in another one. Also what is the criteria for old county Dublin versus what we are calling new county Dublin. Financefactz ( talk) 10:17, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi all, are the above worthy of wikipedia pages of their own do you think? They could be additions to this template. Ridiculopathy ( talk) 17:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC).
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I can see some point to this, and for Dublin, I like the name "residential areas" better than "Towns and Villages" (I argued before for "Towns, Villages and Suburbs"), but as there is also a category, and other structures, I would like to ask what prior discussion there was on this idea, and the value it adds? Also, it divides into Northside and Southside - these are already complex concepts here, as the ideas differ from the pure geographic, and anyway today much of new Dublin development is in the west of the urban zone, and would traditionally not have figured in any Northside / Southside divide (Lucan, for example). I'm not opposed, but I do think this idea and its implementation need to be debated. SeoR ( talk) 08:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I got the idea of creating this template from the templates of the boroughs of New York. I thought it would be a good idea to have such a template for Dublin since most areas already had a page on WP. I took the list from the Northside and Southside pages. If anybody feels an area should be added or taken off from the template you might want to add/remove it from those pages as well, so we have a minimum of consistency. As for the NS/SS question, I agree that Dublin has changed so much in the last 10 years or so, that maybe we shouldn't bother with NS and SS anymore. But since the list was taken from 2 pages I thought I'd divide the template into 2 sections. Initially I was thinking of creating a section for each postal code but then I quickly realised it would be a nightmare as some areas spread over 2 or 3 PC and some spread over Co. Dublin. Saebhiar Adishatz 02:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
There are some areas with pages that are not included in the template, Smithfield for example. I would add them but i don't know how.
Please add kilmore to the campaign box Thanks-- Babestress ( talk) 14:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I have added in a few more obscure ones such as Man O'War. I have also added Chapelizod in to the Northside. It being probably the only area which spans both sides of the river.
I will look at setting up Wikipedia pages for Stawberry beds and Summerhill which I feel are sufficiently worthy of their own. Financefactz ( talk) 14:51, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
What precisely was wrong with the following additions
What are we defining as Dublin City. I thought it was just residential areas of County Dublin as the title defines it as North and South of the river. The title is just Dublin residential areas. I see you've left in a lot of the additions such as the Naul and Lusk. I would really struggle to see how Balbriggan isn't a residential area of Dublin under any criteria due to its size and history and connections via city bus and train services.
I think Wikipedia is really just about having verifiable facts and it helps if there is a consensus. What are the criteria for something being regarded as residential. I would regard it as being residential if someone has ever lived there. Thus Ireland's Eye makes the cut in that criteria or possibly if it was more strict we could say if someone is currently living their then it wouldn't make the cut but Lambay Island would as it still has the Barings Family residing there]].
I would be inclined to have the list as exhaustive as reasonably possible. For example you could say that Bayside is possibly a part of either Sutton or Kilbarrack but because it is quite large it could be viewed as its own area and should be included. Generally if a place is sufficiently large then it will have just the name of the area before Dublin in the street address. Usually for people living in the Brackenstown area of Swords I have seen Brackenstown, Swords, Co. Dublin but have also seen letters addressed to just Brackenstown, Co. Dublin so would be inclined to leave it in.
I'm not really too bothered what the criteria is as long as it isn't a secret or just "whatever the person editing it feel is the criteria at a given time". That way if it doesn't fit in this list then it can fit in another one. Also what is the criteria for old county Dublin versus what we are calling new county Dublin. Financefactz ( talk) 10:17, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi all, are the above worthy of wikipedia pages of their own do you think? They could be additions to this template. Ridiculopathy ( talk) 17:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC).