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I think the arrow looks like it means "decreasing" as opposed to a loss. It's confusing and I wouldn't use this. Shawnc 20:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Please, add sl:Predloga:Upad. --12:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Please add is:Snið:Lækkun. -- Stefán Örvarr Sigmundsson 22:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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Unicode symbols are not accessible, as most of them are read by
screen readers as a question mark (unrecognized). Even when they are, the textual alternative is quite generic, and does not always convey the meaning intended. For example, in this case it would be read as "down arrow" instead of "decrease".
The MoS guideline at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (accessibility)#Text says such symbols should be replaced by an icon with alt text. This guideline was established after the discussion at WT:ACCESS#Non standard ASCII, and consensus was reached to replace such symbols by an icon with alt text.
This change does not have any effect on the layout, or the rendering of the symbol, thus is believed to be consensual. I request to replace: ▼
<span style="color: red; font-size: larger;">▼</span>
by:
[[File:Decrease2.svg|11px|alt=decrease|link=]]
File:Decrease2.svg is in public domain because it is ineligible for copyright (simple geometry), thus the image doesn't require attribution and it is acceptable to remove the link.
Thanks. Dodoïste ( talk) 13:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Shawnc's comment (from 5 years ago). Its purpose in infoboxes isn't clear, is it a loss, or is it a decrease from previous years? It seems to be used instead of a negative sign, which is how a negative profit would normally be displayed. (e.g. on Lockheed Martin)
At the very least, is it possible to have a mouseover tip to say it represents a loss, rather than a decrease from previous years? 84.9.58.29 ( talk) 23:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
An equilateral triangle points in three different directions: why should I consider this to be downward rather than right/left and up a bit? Kevin McE ( talk) 20:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
At present the template creates a fixed alt text of "decrease". I was recently asked if I could make that text a changeable parameter and also provide hover-text. I've tested an implementation at User:RexxS/Decrease using the following code:
<span title="{{ifempty|{{{alt|}}}|decrease}}">[[File:Decrease2.svg|11px|alt={{ifempty|{{{alt|}}}|decrease}}|link=]]</span><noinclude> {{documentation}} </noinclude>
There are similar trials at User:RexxS/Steady and User:RexxS/Increase for the associated templates.
Results are as follows:
Type this | Result |
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{{User:RexxS/Decrease}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Increase}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Steady}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Decrease|alt=smaller}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Increase|alt=bigger}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Steady|alt=unchanged}} | ![]() |
The first three demonstrate the default alt text and title of "decrease", "increase" and "steady", so these versions produce the same results as the present templates if you don't add a parameter. The last three have alt text and title set to the parameter which is supplied. This version also deals with |alt=
(i.e. explicit empty alt) by falling back to the default.
Is there any downside to updating the current templates to take the optional parameter and give title text? -- RexxS ( talk) 19:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I created a sandboxed verion of the template with support for delta numbers as tooltips (to be specified in first unnamed parameter). I already implemented this in {{ steady}}, and similar request is filed for {{ increase}} (see Unnamed parameter for delta). — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff ( talk• track) 12:59, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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Hello!
Is there a clever way to add hidden characters to the HTML code so that table cells using these templates sort correctly?
For example, clicking the sorting icons in the table on the right seems to order the values randomly.
Thanks, cmɢʟee ୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 20:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
(Copied from Template_talk:IncreaseNegative)
The documentation does not provide any clear guidance on when {{
IncreaseNegative}} ( For example, some pages have used
PrimeHunter
mentioned a good example when Can the documentation be updated to give examples of appropriate uses? — sroc ( talk) 03:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC) |
FYI - As per Help Desk discussion. thewolfchild 10:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Template talk:Increase § Size parameter. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk
04:55, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Decrease is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
consensus, editors may use {{
edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's
documentation to add usage notes or
categories.
Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. This template does not have a testcases subpage. You can create the testcases subpage here. |
I think the arrow looks like it means "decreasing" as opposed to a loss. It's confusing and I wouldn't use this. Shawnc 20:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Please, add sl:Predloga:Upad. --12:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Please add is:Snið:Lækkun. -- Stefán Örvarr Sigmundsson 22:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Unicode symbols are not accessible, as most of them are read by
screen readers as a question mark (unrecognized). Even when they are, the textual alternative is quite generic, and does not always convey the meaning intended. For example, in this case it would be read as "down arrow" instead of "decrease".
The MoS guideline at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (accessibility)#Text says such symbols should be replaced by an icon with alt text. This guideline was established after the discussion at WT:ACCESS#Non standard ASCII, and consensus was reached to replace such symbols by an icon with alt text.
This change does not have any effect on the layout, or the rendering of the symbol, thus is believed to be consensual. I request to replace: ▼
<span style="color: red; font-size: larger;">▼</span>
by:
[[File:Decrease2.svg|11px|alt=decrease|link=]]
File:Decrease2.svg is in public domain because it is ineligible for copyright (simple geometry), thus the image doesn't require attribution and it is acceptable to remove the link.
Thanks. Dodoïste ( talk) 13:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Shawnc's comment (from 5 years ago). Its purpose in infoboxes isn't clear, is it a loss, or is it a decrease from previous years? It seems to be used instead of a negative sign, which is how a negative profit would normally be displayed. (e.g. on Lockheed Martin)
At the very least, is it possible to have a mouseover tip to say it represents a loss, rather than a decrease from previous years? 84.9.58.29 ( talk) 23:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
An equilateral triangle points in three different directions: why should I consider this to be downward rather than right/left and up a bit? Kevin McE ( talk) 20:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
At present the template creates a fixed alt text of "decrease". I was recently asked if I could make that text a changeable parameter and also provide hover-text. I've tested an implementation at User:RexxS/Decrease using the following code:
<span title="{{ifempty|{{{alt|}}}|decrease}}">[[File:Decrease2.svg|11px|alt={{ifempty|{{{alt|}}}|decrease}}|link=]]</span><noinclude> {{documentation}} </noinclude>
There are similar trials at User:RexxS/Steady and User:RexxS/Increase for the associated templates.
Results are as follows:
Type this | Result |
---|---|
{{User:RexxS/Decrease}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Increase}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Steady}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Decrease|alt=smaller}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Increase|alt=bigger}} | ![]() |
{{User:RexxS/Steady|alt=unchanged}} | ![]() |
The first three demonstrate the default alt text and title of "decrease", "increase" and "steady", so these versions produce the same results as the present templates if you don't add a parameter. The last three have alt text and title set to the parameter which is supplied. This version also deals with |alt=
(i.e. explicit empty alt) by falling back to the default.
Is there any downside to updating the current templates to take the optional parameter and give title text? -- RexxS ( talk) 19:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
I created a sandboxed verion of the template with support for delta numbers as tooltips (to be specified in first unnamed parameter). I already implemented this in {{ steady}}, and similar request is filed for {{ increase}} (see Unnamed parameter for delta). — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff ( talk• track) 12:59, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
|
Hello!
Is there a clever way to add hidden characters to the HTML code so that table cells using these templates sort correctly?
For example, clicking the sorting icons in the table on the right seems to order the values randomly.
Thanks, cmɢʟee ୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 20:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
(Copied from Template_talk:IncreaseNegative)
The documentation does not provide any clear guidance on when {{
IncreaseNegative}} ( For example, some pages have used
PrimeHunter
mentioned a good example when Can the documentation be updated to give examples of appropriate uses? — sroc ( talk) 03:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC) |
FYI - As per Help Desk discussion. thewolfchild 10:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Template talk:Increase § Size parameter. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk
04:55, 16 August 2020 (UTC)