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Editors discussing proposed changes to WP:COI or related pages should disclose during those discussions whether they have been paid to edit Wikipedia. |
This page was nominated for deletion on 27 Jan 2013. The result of the discussion was keep. |
I've been using this template for a while now in total and blissful ignorance of any of this discussion. I edited the template itself here to make it look less incongruous when placed on the talkpage of a biography. If any of that was premature or inappropriate I'll take this opportunity to apologise.
I've been asked to comment on the pre-loaded Edit request. I believe it should be made much less specific. As a possible starting point, I tentatively suggest something like this:
<!-- Please add details of your edit request below, and specify whether you are proposing an addition, a correction, or a deletion of material. Please be sure to give your reasons for the edit, and to cite reliable sources that support your proposed changes. When finished, sign your request by adding four tildes (~~~~) and click "Save Page" -->
{{edit COI}}
I would like to request the addition/correction/deletion of <!-- your text here-->
I'm sure others will be able to improve on that wording.
However, I think that what this template most needs right away is some documentation. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 14:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
User:Doncram said here that this was a "negative-type tag" and that WP:COI does not prohibit neutral editing. Reading through it again, "strongly" advised does come off a bit negative, but this was added after user:OrangeMike and a couple others all supported it in the original discussion
I'd be curious to get more opinions on whether the tag is "negative" and if it should be. CorporateM ( Talk) 22:55, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Over here a bot has been tagging articles about extant organizations with this template on a trial basis based on consensus at Wikipedia:Proposals a while back.
A couple editors have expressed concern about adding this template to the Talk page of articles where there are no signs of COI editing. It would be worthwhile to have a discussion on whether the template should be applied so broadly.
In my view, it may not be as useful to provide straightforward instructions only after there is a problem with COI editing. Then it is too little too late. However, any editor should feel free to remove the template on pages that may not need it. In the original discussion the comments were along the lines that COI effects the majority of these articles, so we might as well apply the tag to all of them.
Part of the reason for this concern may be because editors feel it has a hostile tone. CorporateM ( Talk) 14:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I have started a discussion at Idea Lab on this template here for further discussion. CorporateM ( Talk) 20:49, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
{{ request edit}}
Made a prototype button: User:Mattsenate/request_edit/contest -- Mattsenate ( talk) 23:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
This is a very, very helpful template that I use all the time in my work at WP:COIN. Thanks to folks who built it! Especially the automated edit request formatting. So great.
I reworded this today. Formerly the COI notice said:
Individuals acting on behalf of this person or organization are strongly advised not to edit the article. Click here to request corrections or suggest content, or contact us if the issue is urgent. }}
I changed it to read:
Individuals with a conflict of interest on the subject of this article are strongly advised not to edit the article directly. Click here to request corrections or suggest content. If you are an individual and have concerns about content concerning you, contact us if the issue is urgent. }}
The reasons are:
Hopefully that makes sense to everybody. Jytdog ( talk) 11:44, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
you have seen how i talk with folks who pretty clearly have a COI, right? this template is so, so useful in those discussions on editor Talk pages - after editors disclose (which they almost always do if you talk nicely) i explain how COI is managed by disclosure and by a form of "peer review". i put this template on the article Talk page, and then explain to the editor how to use it. it is so helpful. here is an example. wiki/User_talk:Ahelsinger#Question i do this all the time, for "pro" and "con" editors with a COI on all kinds of things, not just companies or articles about people... it is so great. Jytdog ( talk) 04:13, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Clicking on the link at what currently says "request corrections or suggest content" used to a) open a new section and b) place the Template:Request edit template, which automatically lists the request at WP:COIN.
I am not sure when that was removed or why but can this be restored? I don't know how to do that... Thanks! Jytdog ( talk) 05:39, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
{{COI editnotice|track=yes}}
– the default is
Template:COI editnotice/preload; when |track=yes
then
Template:COI editnotice/preloadtracker is used.
<includeonly>
tags, seems to have addressed the issue with a "nothing there" edit request for this COI editnotice bogusly appearing in
Category:Requested edits. The request-edit {{
Tmbox}} (talk-page message box) is actually in
Template:Request edit/request. And
THIS 05:25, 4 January 2018 edit to "only cat talk pages" also addressed the issue. –
wbm1058 (
talk) 16:41, 3 October 2018 (UTC)|track=yes
Template:COI editnotice/preloadtracker fork was created with
THIS edit, per
THIS discussion. –
wbm1058 (
talk) 17:31, 3 October 2018 (UTC){{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits}}
: 0{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits|all}}
: 0{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits|pages}}
: 0{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits|subcats}}
: 0{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits|files}}
: 0Fixed – I believe THIS 05:25, 4 January 2018 edit actually fixed the problem that others were trying to fix, but broke things in the process. So now I've reverted back to the way this was originally configured before the fix attempts were made. – wbm1058 ( talk) 23:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I made some pretty bold changes to the preload for this template. Let me know if you don't agree with these changes, but I wanted to make the template more in line with WP:ERW and Template:Request Edit. Also, I used so the template doesn't generate on the preload page, as it was doing previously. Sam-2727 ( talk) 03:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
"You may request corrections on" should be changed to "You may request corrections". Thanks, DesertPipeline ( talk) 06:32, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
You may request corrections or suggest content on the Talk page for independent editors to review, or contact us if the issue is urgent.
You may request changes to this article on the Talk page for independent editors to review, or contact us if the issue is urgent.
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Template:Extant and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 6#Template:Extant until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 12:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
To discuss conflict of interest problems with specific editors and articles, please go to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. |
Editors discussing proposed changes to WP:COI or related pages should disclose during those discussions whether they have been paid to edit Wikipedia. |
This page was nominated for deletion on 27 Jan 2013. The result of the discussion was keep. |
I've been using this template for a while now in total and blissful ignorance of any of this discussion. I edited the template itself here to make it look less incongruous when placed on the talkpage of a biography. If any of that was premature or inappropriate I'll take this opportunity to apologise.
I've been asked to comment on the pre-loaded Edit request. I believe it should be made much less specific. As a possible starting point, I tentatively suggest something like this:
<!-- Please add details of your edit request below, and specify whether you are proposing an addition, a correction, or a deletion of material. Please be sure to give your reasons for the edit, and to cite reliable sources that support your proposed changes. When finished, sign your request by adding four tildes (~~~~) and click "Save Page" -->
{{edit COI}}
I would like to request the addition/correction/deletion of <!-- your text here-->
I'm sure others will be able to improve on that wording.
However, I think that what this template most needs right away is some documentation. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 14:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
User:Doncram said here that this was a "negative-type tag" and that WP:COI does not prohibit neutral editing. Reading through it again, "strongly" advised does come off a bit negative, but this was added after user:OrangeMike and a couple others all supported it in the original discussion
I'd be curious to get more opinions on whether the tag is "negative" and if it should be. CorporateM ( Talk) 22:55, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Over here a bot has been tagging articles about extant organizations with this template on a trial basis based on consensus at Wikipedia:Proposals a while back.
A couple editors have expressed concern about adding this template to the Talk page of articles where there are no signs of COI editing. It would be worthwhile to have a discussion on whether the template should be applied so broadly.
In my view, it may not be as useful to provide straightforward instructions only after there is a problem with COI editing. Then it is too little too late. However, any editor should feel free to remove the template on pages that may not need it. In the original discussion the comments were along the lines that COI effects the majority of these articles, so we might as well apply the tag to all of them.
Part of the reason for this concern may be because editors feel it has a hostile tone. CorporateM ( Talk) 14:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
I have started a discussion at Idea Lab on this template here for further discussion. CorporateM ( Talk) 20:49, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
{{ request edit}}
Made a prototype button: User:Mattsenate/request_edit/contest -- Mattsenate ( talk) 23:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
This is a very, very helpful template that I use all the time in my work at WP:COIN. Thanks to folks who built it! Especially the automated edit request formatting. So great.
I reworded this today. Formerly the COI notice said:
Individuals acting on behalf of this person or organization are strongly advised not to edit the article. Click here to request corrections or suggest content, or contact us if the issue is urgent. }}
I changed it to read:
Individuals with a conflict of interest on the subject of this article are strongly advised not to edit the article directly. Click here to request corrections or suggest content. If you are an individual and have concerns about content concerning you, contact us if the issue is urgent. }}
The reasons are:
Hopefully that makes sense to everybody. Jytdog ( talk) 11:44, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
you have seen how i talk with folks who pretty clearly have a COI, right? this template is so, so useful in those discussions on editor Talk pages - after editors disclose (which they almost always do if you talk nicely) i explain how COI is managed by disclosure and by a form of "peer review". i put this template on the article Talk page, and then explain to the editor how to use it. it is so helpful. here is an example. wiki/User_talk:Ahelsinger#Question i do this all the time, for "pro" and "con" editors with a COI on all kinds of things, not just companies or articles about people... it is so great. Jytdog ( talk) 04:13, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Clicking on the link at what currently says "request corrections or suggest content" used to a) open a new section and b) place the Template:Request edit template, which automatically lists the request at WP:COIN.
I am not sure when that was removed or why but can this be restored? I don't know how to do that... Thanks! Jytdog ( talk) 05:39, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
{{COI editnotice|track=yes}}
– the default is
Template:COI editnotice/preload; when |track=yes
then
Template:COI editnotice/preloadtracker is used.
<includeonly>
tags, seems to have addressed the issue with a "nothing there" edit request for this COI editnotice bogusly appearing in
Category:Requested edits. The request-edit {{
Tmbox}} (talk-page message box) is actually in
Template:Request edit/request. And
THIS 05:25, 4 January 2018 edit to "only cat talk pages" also addressed the issue. –
wbm1058 (
talk) 16:41, 3 October 2018 (UTC)|track=yes
Template:COI editnotice/preloadtracker fork was created with
THIS edit, per
THIS discussion. –
wbm1058 (
talk) 17:31, 3 October 2018 (UTC){{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits}}
: 0{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits|all}}
: 0{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits|pages}}
: 0{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits|subcats}}
: 0{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Requested edits|files}}
: 0Fixed – I believe THIS 05:25, 4 January 2018 edit actually fixed the problem that others were trying to fix, but broke things in the process. So now I've reverted back to the way this was originally configured before the fix attempts were made. – wbm1058 ( talk) 23:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello, I made some pretty bold changes to the preload for this template. Let me know if you don't agree with these changes, but I wanted to make the template more in line with WP:ERW and Template:Request Edit. Also, I used so the template doesn't generate on the preload page, as it was doing previously. Sam-2727 ( talk) 03:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
"You may request corrections on" should be changed to "You may request corrections". Thanks, DesertPipeline ( talk) 06:32, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
You may request corrections or suggest content on the Talk page for independent editors to review, or contact us if the issue is urgent.
You may request changes to this article on the Talk page for independent editors to review, or contact us if the issue is urgent.
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Template:Extant and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 6#Template:Extant until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 12:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)