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I'm wondering if " Radar should be added to this template as one of the Blackout singles. Please see the discussion at Talk:Radar (song). -- Amalthea Talk 19:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
No, it should not be added. It was canceled and is thus not a single. Sure it may have charted on certain charts, but those are due to digital sales and radio stations randomly playing the song (like how time to time DJ's play songs from years ago).
-- -Shadow ( talk) 19:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
As long as there isn't enough material to pass
the notability guideline for songs the announcement alone isn't enough to warrant an article about "Womanizer" just yet. Once we have that article, it should also be added to the navigation box, but not before. The purpose of the navigation box is to provide a concise list of links a reader is probably interested in. Per the essay at
Wikipedia:NAVBOX, "the goal is not to cram as many related articles as possible into one space" and "navigation templates provide navigation between existing articles".
So unless there is consensus on this talk page to add the information about the song into the navbox anyway I'd stick to that. --
Amalthea
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11:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
See Template talk:Britney Spears please for a proposed merge of the templates. -- Amalthea Talk 13:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I've moved the "Chris Cox Megamix", "I've Just Begun" and "And Then We Kiss" to the promotional releases section. None of them are available as a CD single or any other formal type of release, aside from the PROMO CDs. "That's Where You Take Me" was never a single. Neither Jive nor her official website consider it as such. Kraft. ( talk) 05:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Songs like Breathe on Me and My Only Wish are being more popular than cc megamix or having my fun. i put them in the promo singles because my only wish is a promo single and breathe on me had a remix cd release but someone keeps deleting them, so i put them into notable songs section! PlatinumFire ( talk) 10:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
p.s. Michael jackson has a similar section. PlatinumFire ( talk) 11:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
And I think That's Where You Take Me isn't a notable song taking the facts that it's only been popular in Philippines. PlatinumFire ( talk) 19:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
should we place Unusual You in a new section called "Minor Releases", because its not a promotional release, or just a notable song. its an official release, just in Australia and New Zealand Only.-- Apeaboutsims ( talk) 02:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I alwas thought that Anticipating was just a promotional single, and it wasnt an official single. Well now with the announcement of The Singles Collection i can confirm that. Why? well, the press release sayas that the Box Set will contain ALL (specifically says 29) of her singles (not promo singles) and, if u see carefully, Anticipating its not in the photo of The Singles, just like And the we kiss and Chris Cox Mgamix, and thats because those 3 songs were just Promotional singles, rather than official singles, and if you count the singles of the template, there are 30 singles (because Anticipating is in the wrong place of the template). That is way to clear in the case of And then we kiss and Chris Cox Megamix, but it is not clear for all of u in the case of Anticipating. As far as i concern, we now have an "official" way to know which releases were promos and wich releases were official singles. Thanks TSC! So, i wish you could share your thoughts wit me and with all the people here. I say: Lets remove it, and put it into the Promo section!!! Hope you realize that i am telling you the thruth and supporte me. Thanks ;) Fortunato luigi ( talk) 01:41, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I am going to try and decipher your guys horrid chicken scratch, so bare with me if I don't understand. First of all, there was no promo for Radar here in the US, it was a regular single. You may not be able to find a CD format but that is because the US doesn't really release too many singles on CD's anymore. Also, I Love Rock N Roll, Born To Make You Happy where only released in certain regions, yet they are still on The Singles Collection. -- -Shadow ( talk) 19:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
The whole Anticipationg thing wasnt about its format, i mean if it was a radio release or was a physical release, it was because Jive doesnt count it as a single. How do we know thins? Well the press release about TSC says "all 29 singles" apart from "3", and those singles doesnt include "Anticipating". So it was released like something diferent than a single, it was like a promo single or something like that, but no an official single. Fortunato luigi ( talk) 03:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
On the singles collection press rlease that was released with 3 [1], it says that antcipating is a minor single, and that it wouldnt be in the box set. it also states that unusaul you and That is where you take me are also minor releases. a new section 'Minor Releases" should be made-- Morgan3136 ( talk) 08:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't even start up with this 3 nonsense again. 3 is a regular single, hence why it is following the same path as all other regular singles, radio premiere, digital download, music video, etc. -- -Shadow ( talk) 15:46, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, At the time, i thought the re-direct was a good idea as discogs was the only source we could find. I always knew it was real as i own a copy of the CD Single. But now, there are reliable sources confirming the singles release. The Music Charting Industry confirms that the CD Single was released worldwide on 15 September 2009. [3] Also, it states that it was released worldwide, not just in Australia. If you look at "3" on that site, it states the pacific countries where it was released. It tells you where the CD Single was released and the EP was released. However, on the Unusual You CD single, it doesn't give a pacific area, which means it was released worldwide. I think that giving one for the most reliable sources on the net, that Unusual You can be a single on Wikipedia. Is it possible to put it back up? Thank - You-- Apeaboutsims ( talk) 02:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
-I don't think there should be a promotional singles page. No artist has one, right now. They were used 1 year ago. Taht's why i think I've Just Begun having my fun could go to the Other songs. -Right now it is used: "other singles"; "other songs" -I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY Mmm Papi (or Shatered Glass) has a page. It's not an important song, never performed. It should be replaced by "Breathe on Me", performed in all of Britney's tours since it was released (includin M and M's Tour) and it's one of Spears favourite songs from her catalogue. -Unusual You, IS NOT A SINGLE. IT WAS ONLY RELEASED IN AUSTRALIA. -Anticipating should be put in the "Other singles" because it was not a regular single (don't compare it to Born to Make You Happy or I Love Rock 'n' Roll!). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.154.20.156 ( talk) 22:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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list12 = " My Only Wish (This Year)" · " Kill the Lights" · " Shattered Glass" · " Mmm Papi" · " Lace and Leather" · " Criminal" · " Big Fat Bass"
Why is "Criminal" deleted?
Have you ever heard of patience? "Criminal is part of a poll on Facebook. There was link on the page. The page is definitely usefull.
Why can't this be changed? Someday (I Will Understand) is a cd single. It's part of The Singles Collection so Someday (I Will Understand) is definitely not 'an other single'! It's the leadsingle from Britney & Kevin: Chaotic... so this is my request:
Please add this:
Someday is included on an extended play! And all Britney singles are sorted chronologically. So you're saying Someday really is a single from Britney & Kevin: Chaotic but because it isn't an album release you refuse to change!
Someday is included... " The Singles Collection (Britney Spears album)"!
I wanted to get to this before I nominated Blackout for good topic (and hopefully before the album is GA), so I'm gonna try to explain the situation as best as I can for the editors that aren't familiar with it. In June 2008, Britney's longtime manager announced that Radar was going to be released as the fourth single from Blackout, and that Britney was going to shoot a music video for it. [4] Needless to say the video never happened, but during the next two months it charted in Ireland, Sweden and New Zealand. [5] [6] [7] Britney started recording for Circus, then she released "Womanizer" and the era began, leaving this Hung Medien source as the only "proof" that a CD single was released in July 2008 (with this cover). Radar was then included on Circus as a bonus track and released officially as the fourth single from that album in July 2009. [8] It got the same treatment as any Circus song: new cover, it charted on several countries, got a music video, performance, etc. This Digital Spy review of the song, also from July 2009 says that the original release "was scrapped when Britney returned to the recording studio sooner than expected." Team Britney never acknowledged the original release, and even the Radar CD single in The Singles Collection boxset included the new cover [9]. I did like they did, and when I was writing the article, I pretended the 2008 release never happened.
A similar thing happened with Unusual You. It didn't chart anywhere, but there are two Hung Medien sources from Australia and New Zealand [10] [11]. Again, neither Britney or her team ever acknowledged it, and it wasn't included on The Singles Collection (released two months later). Somehow the Radar situation flew over my head, and there was so much edit warring going on and Australian fans claiming that they had bought the CD single that I settled, expanded the article and nominated it for GA.
I'm asking for consensus to determine if the Hung Medien sources can be considered as reliable enough for single releases. If the consensus is that they are, I'm going to revamp the article, replace it with the original cover and treat the release from Circus as a re-release. If it is that they are not, the only thing left to do is replace the Unusual you infobox from single to song. Xwomanizerx ( talk) 02:24, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
A big change like this really should have been discussed. Just because it was done for Rihanna doesn't mean every artist needs to be this way, especially when the singles template is the template used on hundreds of artists articles. I think this change really needs to be discussed. -- Shadow ( talk) 07:38, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
The Britney Spears portal was recently deleted. I've removed the red link from the template. BlackcurrantTea ( talk) 09:48, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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Britney Spears songs template. |
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I'm wondering if " Radar should be added to this template as one of the Blackout singles. Please see the discussion at Talk:Radar (song). -- Amalthea Talk 19:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
No, it should not be added. It was canceled and is thus not a single. Sure it may have charted on certain charts, but those are due to digital sales and radio stations randomly playing the song (like how time to time DJ's play songs from years ago).
-- -Shadow ( talk) 19:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
As long as there isn't enough material to pass
the notability guideline for songs the announcement alone isn't enough to warrant an article about "Womanizer" just yet. Once we have that article, it should also be added to the navigation box, but not before. The purpose of the navigation box is to provide a concise list of links a reader is probably interested in. Per the essay at
Wikipedia:NAVBOX, "the goal is not to cram as many related articles as possible into one space" and "navigation templates provide navigation between existing articles".
So unless there is consensus on this talk page to add the information about the song into the navbox anyway I'd stick to that. --
Amalthea
Talk
11:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
See Template talk:Britney Spears please for a proposed merge of the templates. -- Amalthea Talk 13:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I've moved the "Chris Cox Megamix", "I've Just Begun" and "And Then We Kiss" to the promotional releases section. None of them are available as a CD single or any other formal type of release, aside from the PROMO CDs. "That's Where You Take Me" was never a single. Neither Jive nor her official website consider it as such. Kraft. ( talk) 05:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Songs like Breathe on Me and My Only Wish are being more popular than cc megamix or having my fun. i put them in the promo singles because my only wish is a promo single and breathe on me had a remix cd release but someone keeps deleting them, so i put them into notable songs section! PlatinumFire ( talk) 10:59, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
p.s. Michael jackson has a similar section. PlatinumFire ( talk) 11:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
And I think That's Where You Take Me isn't a notable song taking the facts that it's only been popular in Philippines. PlatinumFire ( talk) 19:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
should we place Unusual You in a new section called "Minor Releases", because its not a promotional release, or just a notable song. its an official release, just in Australia and New Zealand Only.-- Apeaboutsims ( talk) 02:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I alwas thought that Anticipating was just a promotional single, and it wasnt an official single. Well now with the announcement of The Singles Collection i can confirm that. Why? well, the press release sayas that the Box Set will contain ALL (specifically says 29) of her singles (not promo singles) and, if u see carefully, Anticipating its not in the photo of The Singles, just like And the we kiss and Chris Cox Mgamix, and thats because those 3 songs were just Promotional singles, rather than official singles, and if you count the singles of the template, there are 30 singles (because Anticipating is in the wrong place of the template). That is way to clear in the case of And then we kiss and Chris Cox Megamix, but it is not clear for all of u in the case of Anticipating. As far as i concern, we now have an "official" way to know which releases were promos and wich releases were official singles. Thanks TSC! So, i wish you could share your thoughts wit me and with all the people here. I say: Lets remove it, and put it into the Promo section!!! Hope you realize that i am telling you the thruth and supporte me. Thanks ;) Fortunato luigi ( talk) 01:41, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I am going to try and decipher your guys horrid chicken scratch, so bare with me if I don't understand. First of all, there was no promo for Radar here in the US, it was a regular single. You may not be able to find a CD format but that is because the US doesn't really release too many singles on CD's anymore. Also, I Love Rock N Roll, Born To Make You Happy where only released in certain regions, yet they are still on The Singles Collection. -- -Shadow ( talk) 19:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
The whole Anticipationg thing wasnt about its format, i mean if it was a radio release or was a physical release, it was because Jive doesnt count it as a single. How do we know thins? Well the press release about TSC says "all 29 singles" apart from "3", and those singles doesnt include "Anticipating". So it was released like something diferent than a single, it was like a promo single or something like that, but no an official single. Fortunato luigi ( talk) 03:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
On the singles collection press rlease that was released with 3 [1], it says that antcipating is a minor single, and that it wouldnt be in the box set. it also states that unusaul you and That is where you take me are also minor releases. a new section 'Minor Releases" should be made-- Morgan3136 ( talk) 08:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't even start up with this 3 nonsense again. 3 is a regular single, hence why it is following the same path as all other regular singles, radio premiere, digital download, music video, etc. -- -Shadow ( talk) 15:46, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, At the time, i thought the re-direct was a good idea as discogs was the only source we could find. I always knew it was real as i own a copy of the CD Single. But now, there are reliable sources confirming the singles release. The Music Charting Industry confirms that the CD Single was released worldwide on 15 September 2009. [3] Also, it states that it was released worldwide, not just in Australia. If you look at "3" on that site, it states the pacific countries where it was released. It tells you where the CD Single was released and the EP was released. However, on the Unusual You CD single, it doesn't give a pacific area, which means it was released worldwide. I think that giving one for the most reliable sources on the net, that Unusual You can be a single on Wikipedia. Is it possible to put it back up? Thank - You-- Apeaboutsims ( talk) 02:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
-I don't think there should be a promotional singles page. No artist has one, right now. They were used 1 year ago. Taht's why i think I've Just Begun having my fun could go to the Other songs. -Right now it is used: "other singles"; "other songs" -I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY Mmm Papi (or Shatered Glass) has a page. It's not an important song, never performed. It should be replaced by "Breathe on Me", performed in all of Britney's tours since it was released (includin M and M's Tour) and it's one of Spears favourite songs from her catalogue. -Unusual You, IS NOT A SINGLE. IT WAS ONLY RELEASED IN AUSTRALIA. -Anticipating should be put in the "Other singles" because it was not a regular single (don't compare it to Born to Make You Happy or I Love Rock 'n' Roll!). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.154.20.156 ( talk) 22:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
hey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.238.186.222 ( talk) 04:26, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
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list12 = " My Only Wish (This Year)" · " Kill the Lights" · " Shattered Glass" · " Mmm Papi" · " Lace and Leather" · " Criminal" · " Big Fat Bass"
Why is "Criminal" deleted?
Have you ever heard of patience? "Criminal is part of a poll on Facebook. There was link on the page. The page is definitely usefull.
Why can't this be changed? Someday (I Will Understand) is a cd single. It's part of The Singles Collection so Someday (I Will Understand) is definitely not 'an other single'! It's the leadsingle from Britney & Kevin: Chaotic... so this is my request:
Please add this:
Someday is included on an extended play! And all Britney singles are sorted chronologically. So you're saying Someday really is a single from Britney & Kevin: Chaotic but because it isn't an album release you refuse to change!
Someday is included... " The Singles Collection (Britney Spears album)"!
I wanted to get to this before I nominated Blackout for good topic (and hopefully before the album is GA), so I'm gonna try to explain the situation as best as I can for the editors that aren't familiar with it. In June 2008, Britney's longtime manager announced that Radar was going to be released as the fourth single from Blackout, and that Britney was going to shoot a music video for it. [4] Needless to say the video never happened, but during the next two months it charted in Ireland, Sweden and New Zealand. [5] [6] [7] Britney started recording for Circus, then she released "Womanizer" and the era began, leaving this Hung Medien source as the only "proof" that a CD single was released in July 2008 (with this cover). Radar was then included on Circus as a bonus track and released officially as the fourth single from that album in July 2009. [8] It got the same treatment as any Circus song: new cover, it charted on several countries, got a music video, performance, etc. This Digital Spy review of the song, also from July 2009 says that the original release "was scrapped when Britney returned to the recording studio sooner than expected." Team Britney never acknowledged the original release, and even the Radar CD single in The Singles Collection boxset included the new cover [9]. I did like they did, and when I was writing the article, I pretended the 2008 release never happened.
A similar thing happened with Unusual You. It didn't chart anywhere, but there are two Hung Medien sources from Australia and New Zealand [10] [11]. Again, neither Britney or her team ever acknowledged it, and it wasn't included on The Singles Collection (released two months later). Somehow the Radar situation flew over my head, and there was so much edit warring going on and Australian fans claiming that they had bought the CD single that I settled, expanded the article and nominated it for GA.
I'm asking for consensus to determine if the Hung Medien sources can be considered as reliable enough for single releases. If the consensus is that they are, I'm going to revamp the article, replace it with the original cover and treat the release from Circus as a re-release. If it is that they are not, the only thing left to do is replace the Unusual you infobox from single to song. Xwomanizerx ( talk) 02:24, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
A big change like this really should have been discussed. Just because it was done for Rihanna doesn't mean every artist needs to be this way, especially when the singles template is the template used on hundreds of artists articles. I think this change really needs to be discussed. -- Shadow ( talk) 07:38, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
The Britney Spears portal was recently deleted. I've removed the red link from the template. BlackcurrantTea ( talk) 09:48, 21 May 2019 (UTC)