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I would like to incorporate disasters in (with a parameter, perhaps). Airdisaster.com supports searches via http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/search_keyword.cgi?search=OK-DBF as an example. — Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 03:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
How about taking each article on a case-by-case basis and determining the best source in each instance, and the best way to reference. If the article already adopted some referencing style, that should be used for referencing the registration number, rather than mixing referencing styles. -- Aude ( talk contribs) 14:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
As an example, I searched United Airlines Flight 173 and found:
Per WP:RS, source #3 (NTSB) would be preferred but not all information is readily available online from them. The Embry-Riddle source is also good, as an academic source which is making available the official government report. aviation-safety would be my next choice, as the information is presented in clear manner with good references, and no advertisements overwhelming the reader. The "Investigative report" page on airdisaster.com is also acceptable as a source, as it directly transcribes the NTSB report that's available from Embry-Riddle. However, the "Accident synopsis" only provides a few details (date, airline, aircraft, location, registration number, flight number, fatalities, MSN, line number, engine manufacturer and model, and year of delivery). The same information (and more) is available without the banner ad on aviation-safety and in the NTSB report. -- Aude ( talk contribs) 15:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Below is a list articles using the template, and which source they link to. Overwhemingly, airdisaster.com is used, which I feel is inappropriate per WP:EL, WP:RS, and possibly WP:SPAM (due to the extensive advertising). I don't think this template is needed at all. If anything, only links to official sites are suitable. -- Aude ( talk contribs) 21:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
articles using the template
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Numerous links
RAB (Brazil)
PLH (Hungary)
Transport Canada
CAA (UK)
FAA
Airfleets.net
Airdisaster.com
Non-articles
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Airdisaster.com seems to be pop-up city... this template is effectively sending spammers traffic. I move that the airdisaster.com link be changed (it's not much of a site anyway), perhaps to ASN. Dan100 ( Talk) 23:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have good suggestions on how to make the template link to something more informative and consistent with WP:EL? -- Aude ( talk) 20:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
What alternatives do we have besides airdisaster.com that can be the default option on this template for disasters? I have looked around quite a bit and found aviation-safety.net to be the most informative. But, the site uses the record number to get information from the database, rather than the tail number. Any ideas on possible sites to use or how to make the template work with this site? -- Aude ( talk) 19:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The only way to do a "bait and switch", switching out airdisaster.com and replacing it with the other site is to contact them and ask if they could accommodate us. They might be willing to tweak the site's code to make it that information can be retrieved via tail number. -- Aude ( talk) 23:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
id
(YYYYMMDD). The second part, the single number, can be found by checking the
year list. Most often it will be 0. Since this doesn't use the same format as the other links in {{
Airreg}}, a new template can be created for this purpose. –
Pomte 02:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)This edit introduced four insightly cite errors which seem to persist to this day because "You can only use #tag:ref once as a list-defined reference" per Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no key#Issues and resolution. What can we do about this problem? Remove "#tag:ref" from the template? Add a parameter for multiple use in the same page? Thank you. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
<ref>...</ref>
. Perhaps we could add an option for using the old output format, for when the template is used inside references.
Alakzi (
talk) 11:05, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
![]() | This template was nominated for
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I would like to incorporate disasters in (with a parameter, perhaps). Airdisaster.com supports searches via http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/search_keyword.cgi?search=OK-DBF as an example. — Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 03:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
How about taking each article on a case-by-case basis and determining the best source in each instance, and the best way to reference. If the article already adopted some referencing style, that should be used for referencing the registration number, rather than mixing referencing styles. -- Aude ( talk contribs) 14:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
As an example, I searched United Airlines Flight 173 and found:
Per WP:RS, source #3 (NTSB) would be preferred but not all information is readily available online from them. The Embry-Riddle source is also good, as an academic source which is making available the official government report. aviation-safety would be my next choice, as the information is presented in clear manner with good references, and no advertisements overwhelming the reader. The "Investigative report" page on airdisaster.com is also acceptable as a source, as it directly transcribes the NTSB report that's available from Embry-Riddle. However, the "Accident synopsis" only provides a few details (date, airline, aircraft, location, registration number, flight number, fatalities, MSN, line number, engine manufacturer and model, and year of delivery). The same information (and more) is available without the banner ad on aviation-safety and in the NTSB report. -- Aude ( talk contribs) 15:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Below is a list articles using the template, and which source they link to. Overwhemingly, airdisaster.com is used, which I feel is inappropriate per WP:EL, WP:RS, and possibly WP:SPAM (due to the extensive advertising). I don't think this template is needed at all. If anything, only links to official sites are suitable. -- Aude ( talk contribs) 21:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
articles using the template
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Numerous links
RAB (Brazil)
PLH (Hungary)
Transport Canada
CAA (UK)
FAA
Airfleets.net
Airdisaster.com
Non-articles
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Airdisaster.com seems to be pop-up city... this template is effectively sending spammers traffic. I move that the airdisaster.com link be changed (it's not much of a site anyway), perhaps to ASN. Dan100 ( Talk) 23:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have good suggestions on how to make the template link to something more informative and consistent with WP:EL? -- Aude ( talk) 20:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
What alternatives do we have besides airdisaster.com that can be the default option on this template for disasters? I have looked around quite a bit and found aviation-safety.net to be the most informative. But, the site uses the record number to get information from the database, rather than the tail number. Any ideas on possible sites to use or how to make the template work with this site? -- Aude ( talk) 19:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The only way to do a "bait and switch", switching out airdisaster.com and replacing it with the other site is to contact them and ask if they could accommodate us. They might be willing to tweak the site's code to make it that information can be retrieved via tail number. -- Aude ( talk) 23:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
id
(YYYYMMDD). The second part, the single number, can be found by checking the
year list. Most often it will be 0. Since this doesn't use the same format as the other links in {{
Airreg}}, a new template can be created for this purpose. –
Pomte 02:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)This edit introduced four insightly cite errors which seem to persist to this day because "You can only use #tag:ref once as a list-defined reference" per Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no key#Issues and resolution. What can we do about this problem? Remove "#tag:ref" from the template? Add a parameter for multiple use in the same page? Thank you. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
<ref>...</ref>
. Perhaps we could add an option for using the old output format, for when the template is used inside references.
Alakzi (
talk) 11:05, 18 May 2015 (UTC)