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M1A1 Abrams | |
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Specifications | |
Mass | 63.0 tonnes (69.5 short tons) |
Length | 7.9 m (26 ft) |
Width | 3.7 m (12 ft) |
Height | 2.4 m (8 ft) |
Crew | 4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader) |
Copy ’n’ paste, then fill in the blanks:
<!-- SCROLL DOWN TO EDIT THE ARTICLE -->{{AFV | name= | image=[[Image: |250px|[description]]] | caption= | crew= | length= m | width= m | height= m | weight= tonnes | armour= mm | primary= | secondary= | engine= | engine_power= hp ( kW) | suspension= | speed_road= km/h | pw_ratio= hp/tonne | range= km }}
Try to be specific about the exact vehicle model or version, because specs can vary greatly between similar vehicles. Use a photograph of the same model if possible; if not then label both the table and photo.
Leave an item blank for missing data, or enter, "–" for non-applicable fields, or "[secret]" for secret information.
Caption is optional; omit it if there isn't something interesting to say about the photo, but always put something into the image's description.
Enter all figures in metric with abbreviated units, eg, "4.17 m". When the original figures were in non-metric units (eg, U.S. and older British AFVs) also enter these in parentheses, eg, "4.17 m (13 ft 8 in)". Observe significant digits.
Converting an article from the old template:Tank?
{{Tank
at the top to {{AFV
hp
and kW
to the new field engine_power
hp
, kW
, and speed_off
, which are no longer used.New fields in template:AFV:
| engine_power= hp ( kW) | pw_ratio= hp/tonne }}
Example code for the sample template at the top of this page:
<!-- SCROLL DOWN TO EDIT THE ARTICLE -->{{AFV | name=M1A1 Abrams | image=[[Image:M1-A1 Abrams 1.jpg|250px]] | caption= | crew=4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader) | length= 7.9 m (26 ft) | width= 3.7 m (12 ft) | height= 2.4 m (8 ft) | weight=63.0 [[tonne]]s (69.5 [[short ton]]s) | armour=[secret] | primary=120mm smoothbore gun [[M256]] | secondary=.50 machine gun [[M2 Browning machine gun|M2]], pintle & coaxial 7.62mm machine guns [[M240 machine gun|M240]] | engine=gas turbine | engine_power=1500 hp (1100 kW) | suspension= | speed_road=72 km/h (45 mph) | pw_ratio=23.8 hp/tonne | range=465 km (289 mi) }}
This is based on Template:Tank. Because the way data is entered (with units, instead of having hard-coded units in the template), I've started separate development instead of simply updating that template. Thus, articles can have the new template added one at a time, instead of having to be updated all at once.
Changes from Template:Tank:
What do you think? — Michael Z. 2005-10-12 07:11 Z
did you know there was a Template:Infobox Battle Tank, it only linked to the Arjun so I've swopped it for tank (for the moment?) GraemeLeggett
Is the selection of fields in this template generic enough to work for wheeled AFVs, APCs, engineering vehicles or ARVs, etc?
I suppose we would get more fields containing "–" or "none", "crew: 2 (+8 passengers)", "suspension: wheeled". Can anyone foresee any problems?
It may be useful to add a field like "special equipment" or "notes", for miscellaneous additions. — Michael Z. 2005-10-13 15:03 Z
Last call for comments.
This template has become stable, and I'd like to move along with implementing it. Here's a list of unresolved questions from discussion here, at Talk:Tank, and Template talk:Tank:
Please make sure to look over the proposed documentation, above. Choosing and entering data consistently is important too. — Michael Z. 2005-11-9 21:35 Z
Using placement (That is, order of appearance) to indicate source values as opposed to converted values creates a long-term usability nightmare. Pick one side for the metric units and one side for the other units (FSS, imperial, US) and stick to it. Use some other method to inddicate if the value is original info or a conversion. Right now the metric units are sometimes on the left, sometimes on the right. -- AlainV 04:28, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
length (7.9 m) 26 ft width (3.7 m) 12 ft height (2.4 m) 8 ft weight 63.0 tonnes (69.5 short tons) engine (1100 kW) 1500 hp road speed (72 km/h) 45 mph
Crew 4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader) Length (...)
Crew 4 commander, driver, gunner, loader Length (...)
I've decided to put this in a new section since the previous sections is becoming a bit too long.
Yes the problem is that I'm using a relatively large font-size compared to my window-width. In the old days this was never a problem but today web-pages display all kinds of navigation bars etc that munch screen real estate. However, don't get the impression that my font-size is set excessively large - for most Wikipedia pages it's ideal (the added smoothness speads up reading or allows me to sit back a bit while reading) only sometimes I run into infobox trouble. My bad. Sometimes the infobox is too small compared to what's supposed to go inside (specifying the size in ems usually solves that problem), but once I met an infobox so large that to text on the left
looked
a
bit
like
this.
In this case however, there is a lot of blank space to left of the crew members, which is why I think a solution exists. And of course I long for the times when you could properly use the entire window width. Of course in reality text was cramped back then as well because of the small monitors, but still... Shinobu 01:59, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
display: run-in;
CSS property, but it's not supported by MSIE/Windows.
An M1A1 Abrams in the Iraq War | |
M1A1 Abrams | |
---|---|
General characteristics | |
Crew | 4 |
| |
Length | 26 ft (7.9 m) |
Width | 12 ft (3.7 m) |
Height | 8 ft (2.4 m) |
Weight | 69.5 short tons (63.0 tonnes) |
Armour and armament | |
Armour | [classified] |
Main armament | 120mm smoothbore gun M256 |
Secondary armament | .50 machine gun M2, pintle & coaxial 7.62mm machine guns M240 |
Mobility | |
Power plant | gas turbine 1500 hp (1100 kW) |
Suspension | |
Road speed | 45 mph (72 km/h) |
Power/weight | 23.8 hp/tonne |
Range | 465 km (289 mi) |
I know that Wiki has a few drawbacks in terms of image sizing; that can't be helped then. The <br> and the colspan=2 work fine. Shinobu 19:01, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Hm. I guess the fist is a question of taste; leave it as it is then, or do something fancy with a lot of col- and rowspans. The second is true: the infobox shows up wider than the image. If a <br> is not okay, let's try something else: a paragraph. That should solve the problem. I have also removed the imperial units to get a feeling for how that looks in comparison with leaving them in. Another note: Power/weight: are these metric tonnes? By the way power/weight has the dimension of acceleration: [Power/weight] = W / kg = kg m / s / s / kg = m / s / s = [a]. Come to think of it this isn't illogical. Shinobu 11:51, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
An M1A1 Abrams in the Iraq War | |
M1A1 Abrams | |
---|---|
General characteristics | |
Crew | 4 |
| |
Length | 7.9 m |
Width | 3.7 m |
Height | 2.4 m |
Weight | 63.0 tonnes |
Armour and armament | |
Armour | [classified] |
Main armament | 120mm smoothbore gun M256 |
Secondary armament | .50 machine gun M2, pintle & coaxial 7.62mm machine guns M240 |
Mobility | |
Power plant | gas turbine 1500 hp (1100 kW) |
Suspension | |
Road speed | 72 km/h |
Power/weight | 23.8 hp/tonne |
Range | 465 km |
I've updated the template according to our talk. I think everything's covered, except:
Should we list kW and kW/t, or hp and hp/t first? — Michael Z. 2005-11-13 06:36 Z
The use of hp is ingrained in Canada despite metrification because we still read and listen to the US media and all the cars we drive are not fully, exclusively metrificated (metrified?) having, among other things, KM indications written in large numbers and Miles in smaller numbers (giving us "bicultural" vehicles in a weird meaning of the term) but in the rest of the world outside the US and the non-metrificated parts of the former British Empire hp is meaningless. That's why it's so important to keep the metric units clearly to one side, and the non-metric units clearly to another side. Putting hp in just like that means visualy jumping to another system, which might be known a bit or unknown. -- AlainV 13:06, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
My concern here is with being able to spot it easily. That is spot easily, visually that "now we're in metric" and "now we're not". Which means that if one column (left or right, you pick) is metric it stay metric from top to bottom and same thing with the non-metric column.-- AlainV 00:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
@acceleration: there also the deceleration due to air resistance and other forms of friction, so it wouldn't be an accurate figure for the actual acceleration the vehicle can achieve in any case. I mean, you can have a 1100 kW engine, but if your tank is shaped like an inverse parachute, you're going nowhere. Shinobu 00:08, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I know that much, thank you very much. *coughTopGearcough* That's also why it makes sense it has dimension of acceleration. Still it doesn't equate with any specific acceleration, for the reasons stated above. Shinobu 10:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I've decided to live with these two issues:
This weekend, I'll have a last look over the documentation and start adding this template to articles. — Michael Z. 2005-11-25 17:30 Z
Oh, I thought this had been finalized days ago. If I'd known I would have mentioned that the day before yesterday I was flipping through one of my reference books on tanks and saw bhp (brake horsepower) as an indicator for several UK vehicles. I then remembered that this way of counting engine output had been popular in the UK and Commonwealth countries for a long time. Still is in recent books, like the one by David Miller that I had in my hands: Tanks of the world, from WW I to the present (2000). -- AlainV 00:42, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
This template is now ready to use. I've added it to T-34. — Michael Z. 2005-12-1 06:34 Z
Let's formulate a policy on placing empty or nearly-empty infoboxes on AFV pages, to help an edit-war over over PPG tankette. Examples are on ZiS-30, KhTZ-16, NI tank, ANT-IV, NKL-26, RF-8, and others.
In my opinion an infobox is a consistent structured method of presenting a body of data. We don't use empty infoboxes to encourage editors' input any more than we would put a blank table on a page to encourage someone to fill in rows of figures—it just makes the article look unfinished and unprofessional. This is especially true in the case of experimental, improvised, or short-run production AFVs, where there exists the possibility that data will never be filled in. — Michael Z. 2005-12-21 20:41 Z
I've reverted Someguy0830's changes. Please don't make major changes without discussing first, and use the edit summary. I have no idea what the intent of the extensive changes was, but I reverted for the following reasons:
— Michael Z. 2006-04-02 13:52 Z
The "smaller" fontSize doesn't actually result in text that is smaller than the body text. I don't know if that is a browser bug, or something else, but to make the template modest again, I've changed the fontSize to 92%. I chose 92% because other small text on Wikipedia (e.g. the "From Wikipedia" line) is also 92%. Shinobu 07:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
What would you think of adding the system used by the ship template to ignore empty fields ?
Besides, we could use a number of other fields :
Rama 08:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I think we need to add the following:
Figures in Bold are those that I think are crucial. The others are not so needed. We could include them, but make it so that they don't necessarily need to be added, and can be left blank. Type of vehicle and Country are absolutely essential IMO.
We could also have a specifications section like on aircrafts.
Another suggestion of mine is to split this into different sections, since some parts are common for most vehicles, but others may not be, and may be different for AFVs, MBTs and APCs.
Many tank pages are not using this template. I just changed the Leopard 2 template to this one. Can we get consensus on those pages and change the template from Template:Infobox Weapon to this one, which is more relevant and apt.
Cheers. Sniperz11 14:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
The conversion is done: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Infobox conversion. Should this page be deleted or redirected or something?-- Sus scrofa 18:13, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
This redirect does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||
|
M1A1 Abrams | |
---|---|
Specifications | |
Mass | 63.0 tonnes (69.5 short tons) |
Length | 7.9 m (26 ft) |
Width | 3.7 m (12 ft) |
Height | 2.4 m (8 ft) |
Crew | 4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader) |
Copy ’n’ paste, then fill in the blanks:
<!-- SCROLL DOWN TO EDIT THE ARTICLE -->{{AFV | name= | image=[[Image: |250px|[description]]] | caption= | crew= | length= m | width= m | height= m | weight= tonnes | armour= mm | primary= | secondary= | engine= | engine_power= hp ( kW) | suspension= | speed_road= km/h | pw_ratio= hp/tonne | range= km }}
Try to be specific about the exact vehicle model or version, because specs can vary greatly between similar vehicles. Use a photograph of the same model if possible; if not then label both the table and photo.
Leave an item blank for missing data, or enter, "–" for non-applicable fields, or "[secret]" for secret information.
Caption is optional; omit it if there isn't something interesting to say about the photo, but always put something into the image's description.
Enter all figures in metric with abbreviated units, eg, "4.17 m". When the original figures were in non-metric units (eg, U.S. and older British AFVs) also enter these in parentheses, eg, "4.17 m (13 ft 8 in)". Observe significant digits.
Converting an article from the old template:Tank?
{{Tank
at the top to {{AFV
hp
and kW
to the new field engine_power
hp
, kW
, and speed_off
, which are no longer used.New fields in template:AFV:
| engine_power= hp ( kW) | pw_ratio= hp/tonne }}
Example code for the sample template at the top of this page:
<!-- SCROLL DOWN TO EDIT THE ARTICLE -->{{AFV | name=M1A1 Abrams | image=[[Image:M1-A1 Abrams 1.jpg|250px]] | caption= | crew=4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader) | length= 7.9 m (26 ft) | width= 3.7 m (12 ft) | height= 2.4 m (8 ft) | weight=63.0 [[tonne]]s (69.5 [[short ton]]s) | armour=[secret] | primary=120mm smoothbore gun [[M256]] | secondary=.50 machine gun [[M2 Browning machine gun|M2]], pintle & coaxial 7.62mm machine guns [[M240 machine gun|M240]] | engine=gas turbine | engine_power=1500 hp (1100 kW) | suspension= | speed_road=72 km/h (45 mph) | pw_ratio=23.8 hp/tonne | range=465 km (289 mi) }}
This is based on Template:Tank. Because the way data is entered (with units, instead of having hard-coded units in the template), I've started separate development instead of simply updating that template. Thus, articles can have the new template added one at a time, instead of having to be updated all at once.
Changes from Template:Tank:
What do you think? — Michael Z. 2005-10-12 07:11 Z
did you know there was a Template:Infobox Battle Tank, it only linked to the Arjun so I've swopped it for tank (for the moment?) GraemeLeggett
Is the selection of fields in this template generic enough to work for wheeled AFVs, APCs, engineering vehicles or ARVs, etc?
I suppose we would get more fields containing "–" or "none", "crew: 2 (+8 passengers)", "suspension: wheeled". Can anyone foresee any problems?
It may be useful to add a field like "special equipment" or "notes", for miscellaneous additions. — Michael Z. 2005-10-13 15:03 Z
Last call for comments.
This template has become stable, and I'd like to move along with implementing it. Here's a list of unresolved questions from discussion here, at Talk:Tank, and Template talk:Tank:
Please make sure to look over the proposed documentation, above. Choosing and entering data consistently is important too. — Michael Z. 2005-11-9 21:35 Z
Using placement (That is, order of appearance) to indicate source values as opposed to converted values creates a long-term usability nightmare. Pick one side for the metric units and one side for the other units (FSS, imperial, US) and stick to it. Use some other method to inddicate if the value is original info or a conversion. Right now the metric units are sometimes on the left, sometimes on the right. -- AlainV 04:28, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
length (7.9 m) 26 ft width (3.7 m) 12 ft height (2.4 m) 8 ft weight 63.0 tonnes (69.5 short tons) engine (1100 kW) 1500 hp road speed (72 km/h) 45 mph
Crew 4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader) Length (...)
Crew 4 commander, driver, gunner, loader Length (...)
I've decided to put this in a new section since the previous sections is becoming a bit too long.
Yes the problem is that I'm using a relatively large font-size compared to my window-width. In the old days this was never a problem but today web-pages display all kinds of navigation bars etc that munch screen real estate. However, don't get the impression that my font-size is set excessively large - for most Wikipedia pages it's ideal (the added smoothness speads up reading or allows me to sit back a bit while reading) only sometimes I run into infobox trouble. My bad. Sometimes the infobox is too small compared to what's supposed to go inside (specifying the size in ems usually solves that problem), but once I met an infobox so large that to text on the left
looked
a
bit
like
this.
In this case however, there is a lot of blank space to left of the crew members, which is why I think a solution exists. And of course I long for the times when you could properly use the entire window width. Of course in reality text was cramped back then as well because of the small monitors, but still... Shinobu 01:59, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
display: run-in;
CSS property, but it's not supported by MSIE/Windows.
An M1A1 Abrams in the Iraq War | |
M1A1 Abrams | |
---|---|
General characteristics | |
Crew | 4 |
| |
Length | 26 ft (7.9 m) |
Width | 12 ft (3.7 m) |
Height | 8 ft (2.4 m) |
Weight | 69.5 short tons (63.0 tonnes) |
Armour and armament | |
Armour | [classified] |
Main armament | 120mm smoothbore gun M256 |
Secondary armament | .50 machine gun M2, pintle & coaxial 7.62mm machine guns M240 |
Mobility | |
Power plant | gas turbine 1500 hp (1100 kW) |
Suspension | |
Road speed | 45 mph (72 km/h) |
Power/weight | 23.8 hp/tonne |
Range | 465 km (289 mi) |
I know that Wiki has a few drawbacks in terms of image sizing; that can't be helped then. The <br> and the colspan=2 work fine. Shinobu 19:01, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Hm. I guess the fist is a question of taste; leave it as it is then, or do something fancy with a lot of col- and rowspans. The second is true: the infobox shows up wider than the image. If a <br> is not okay, let's try something else: a paragraph. That should solve the problem. I have also removed the imperial units to get a feeling for how that looks in comparison with leaving them in. Another note: Power/weight: are these metric tonnes? By the way power/weight has the dimension of acceleration: [Power/weight] = W / kg = kg m / s / s / kg = m / s / s = [a]. Come to think of it this isn't illogical. Shinobu 11:51, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
An M1A1 Abrams in the Iraq War | |
M1A1 Abrams | |
---|---|
General characteristics | |
Crew | 4 |
| |
Length | 7.9 m |
Width | 3.7 m |
Height | 2.4 m |
Weight | 63.0 tonnes |
Armour and armament | |
Armour | [classified] |
Main armament | 120mm smoothbore gun M256 |
Secondary armament | .50 machine gun M2, pintle & coaxial 7.62mm machine guns M240 |
Mobility | |
Power plant | gas turbine 1500 hp (1100 kW) |
Suspension | |
Road speed | 72 km/h |
Power/weight | 23.8 hp/tonne |
Range | 465 km |
I've updated the template according to our talk. I think everything's covered, except:
Should we list kW and kW/t, or hp and hp/t first? — Michael Z. 2005-11-13 06:36 Z
The use of hp is ingrained in Canada despite metrification because we still read and listen to the US media and all the cars we drive are not fully, exclusively metrificated (metrified?) having, among other things, KM indications written in large numbers and Miles in smaller numbers (giving us "bicultural" vehicles in a weird meaning of the term) but in the rest of the world outside the US and the non-metrificated parts of the former British Empire hp is meaningless. That's why it's so important to keep the metric units clearly to one side, and the non-metric units clearly to another side. Putting hp in just like that means visualy jumping to another system, which might be known a bit or unknown. -- AlainV 13:06, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
My concern here is with being able to spot it easily. That is spot easily, visually that "now we're in metric" and "now we're not". Which means that if one column (left or right, you pick) is metric it stay metric from top to bottom and same thing with the non-metric column.-- AlainV 00:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
@acceleration: there also the deceleration due to air resistance and other forms of friction, so it wouldn't be an accurate figure for the actual acceleration the vehicle can achieve in any case. I mean, you can have a 1100 kW engine, but if your tank is shaped like an inverse parachute, you're going nowhere. Shinobu 00:08, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I know that much, thank you very much. *coughTopGearcough* That's also why it makes sense it has dimension of acceleration. Still it doesn't equate with any specific acceleration, for the reasons stated above. Shinobu 10:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I've decided to live with these two issues:
This weekend, I'll have a last look over the documentation and start adding this template to articles. — Michael Z. 2005-11-25 17:30 Z
Oh, I thought this had been finalized days ago. If I'd known I would have mentioned that the day before yesterday I was flipping through one of my reference books on tanks and saw bhp (brake horsepower) as an indicator for several UK vehicles. I then remembered that this way of counting engine output had been popular in the UK and Commonwealth countries for a long time. Still is in recent books, like the one by David Miller that I had in my hands: Tanks of the world, from WW I to the present (2000). -- AlainV 00:42, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
This template is now ready to use. I've added it to T-34. — Michael Z. 2005-12-1 06:34 Z
Let's formulate a policy on placing empty or nearly-empty infoboxes on AFV pages, to help an edit-war over over PPG tankette. Examples are on ZiS-30, KhTZ-16, NI tank, ANT-IV, NKL-26, RF-8, and others.
In my opinion an infobox is a consistent structured method of presenting a body of data. We don't use empty infoboxes to encourage editors' input any more than we would put a blank table on a page to encourage someone to fill in rows of figures—it just makes the article look unfinished and unprofessional. This is especially true in the case of experimental, improvised, or short-run production AFVs, where there exists the possibility that data will never be filled in. — Michael Z. 2005-12-21 20:41 Z
I've reverted Someguy0830's changes. Please don't make major changes without discussing first, and use the edit summary. I have no idea what the intent of the extensive changes was, but I reverted for the following reasons:
— Michael Z. 2006-04-02 13:52 Z
The "smaller" fontSize doesn't actually result in text that is smaller than the body text. I don't know if that is a browser bug, or something else, but to make the template modest again, I've changed the fontSize to 92%. I chose 92% because other small text on Wikipedia (e.g. the "From Wikipedia" line) is also 92%. Shinobu 07:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
What would you think of adding the system used by the ship template to ignore empty fields ?
Besides, we could use a number of other fields :
Rama 08:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I think we need to add the following:
Figures in Bold are those that I think are crucial. The others are not so needed. We could include them, but make it so that they don't necessarily need to be added, and can be left blank. Type of vehicle and Country are absolutely essential IMO.
We could also have a specifications section like on aircrafts.
Another suggestion of mine is to split this into different sections, since some parts are common for most vehicles, but others may not be, and may be different for AFVs, MBTs and APCs.
Many tank pages are not using this template. I just changed the Leopard 2 template to this one. Can we get consensus on those pages and change the template from Template:Infobox Weapon to this one, which is more relevant and apt.
Cheers. Sniperz11 14:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
The conversion is done: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Infobox conversion. Should this page be deleted or redirected or something?-- Sus scrofa 18:13, 27 May 2007 (UTC)