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These will need to be re-targeted.
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 19:05, 29 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
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... that the Yule cat eats people who do not receive new clothing for Christmas? Source: Áki Guðni Karlsson (17 December 2020). "The Yule Cat". Icelandic Folklore. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
Reviewed: [[]]
Comment: My fifth and final free DYK nom. And I formally request that this be included in [one of?] the Christmas-themed set(s).
(Note that this article was discussed on Discord. The DYK nom itself wasn't mentioned, hence I don't consider this canvassed.)
QueenofHearts ❤️ (no relation) 02:47, 30 November 2023 (UTC)reply
ALT1: ... that in Icelandic folklore, the Yule cat eats people who do not receive new clothing for Christmas? Source: Áki Guðni Karlsson (17 December 2020). "The Yule Cat". Icelandic Folklore. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
Is that better? It's a simple fix.
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 18:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)reply
As far as I'm concerned, that's fine. But there are some people who interpret the rule differently. MANdARAX •
XAЯAbИAM 00:44, 1 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Too bad we cannot use any images because of the very strict
FOP in Iceland. The image is uploaded to commons but it should be deleted based on the strict FOP. There may be some fair use possibility for the image if uploaded locally but I am not sure. ALT1 works and checks out as it calls out the folklore aspect. There is a discussion about Xmas hooks on
WT:DYK and perhaps this hook could be a part of that planned set? I also made note of the
discussion on the creator's talk page about copying within Wikipedia.
Bruxton (
talk) 16:59, 1 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I've nominated the file for deletion on Commons. I'll upload it as non-free here if it gets deleted.
QueenofHearts ❤️ (no relation) 04:40, 6 December 2023 (UTC)reply
removal of image
Hey,
SilverTiger12, I don't understand your edit summary
here. Is there anything wrong with the image? It's used on the article in fr.wiki and ru.wiki?
Valereee (
talk) 14:17, 14 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I removed it because it is an AI-generated image (with the associated issues THAT entails), and because as an AI-generated image, it isn't really representative of how people depict the Yule cat. So it doesn't really add anything of value to the article. Happy editing,
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 19:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)reply
It's fine to object on those concerns, but please use better edit summaries. "No thank you" is just meaningless, as well as being kind of dismissive.
Valereee (
talk) 19:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)reply
The full edit summary was "rmv AI-generated image: no, thank you" - the no-thank-you was to indicate my rejection of the AI-generated image.
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 19:43, 14 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Folklorist Árni Björnsson points to a footnote by Árnason which noted the existence of a
figure of speech, "to dress the cat", recorded by Árnason.[1]
This is confusing. Did Árnason create the figure of speech? Who "noted the existence"? Being unable to interpret the source myself, I wanted to check before making changes.
Would this work instead? (If so, implement it
) Folklorist Árni Björnsson points to a footnote by Árnason which uses the
figure of speech "to dress the cat".[2]
It would also be helpful to include the original Icelandic figure of speech in parentheses
That's all! Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Wrackingtalk! 05:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Wrackingtalk! 05:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
No, Arnason was recording the existence of a figure of speech in use at the time. I'm not sure what the phrase is in Icelandic, and I'm wary of trying to isolate it in an online translator. Thank you,
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 18:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I recommend reading
Wikipedia:WikiProject Iceland/Style advice to learn about how Icelandic names are used. In short Icelanders are usually referred to by their first name instead of their last name. So instead of using Árnason (last name), it could be better to use Jón (first name). Personally, it doesn't matter to me but I thought I'd mention it. WanderingMorpheme 20:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
@
WanderingMorpheme, thanks for sharing! I've made changes based on this information. I also created a hatnote ({{
Icelandic name}} doesn't quite work here), which I welcome anyone to edit for accuracy/concision.
Wrackingtalk! 21:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
While living in the real world can be something of a pain, it seems better than getting lost in some make belief. For are tall tells about 'Yule Cats' the kind of stuff that Wikipedia should be highlighting? — Preceding
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talk) 20:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)reply
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These will need to be re-targeted.
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 19:05, 29 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
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... that the Yule cat eats people who do not receive new clothing for Christmas? Source: Áki Guðni Karlsson (17 December 2020). "The Yule Cat". Icelandic Folklore. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
Reviewed: [[]]
Comment: My fifth and final free DYK nom. And I formally request that this be included in [one of?] the Christmas-themed set(s).
(Note that this article was discussed on Discord. The DYK nom itself wasn't mentioned, hence I don't consider this canvassed.)
QueenofHearts ❤️ (no relation) 02:47, 30 November 2023 (UTC)reply
ALT1: ... that in Icelandic folklore, the Yule cat eats people who do not receive new clothing for Christmas? Source: Áki Guðni Karlsson (17 December 2020). "The Yule Cat". Icelandic Folklore. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
Is that better? It's a simple fix.
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 18:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)reply
As far as I'm concerned, that's fine. But there are some people who interpret the rule differently. MANdARAX •
XAЯAbИAM 00:44, 1 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Too bad we cannot use any images because of the very strict
FOP in Iceland. The image is uploaded to commons but it should be deleted based on the strict FOP. There may be some fair use possibility for the image if uploaded locally but I am not sure. ALT1 works and checks out as it calls out the folklore aspect. There is a discussion about Xmas hooks on
WT:DYK and perhaps this hook could be a part of that planned set? I also made note of the
discussion on the creator's talk page about copying within Wikipedia.
Bruxton (
talk) 16:59, 1 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I've nominated the file for deletion on Commons. I'll upload it as non-free here if it gets deleted.
QueenofHearts ❤️ (no relation) 04:40, 6 December 2023 (UTC)reply
removal of image
Hey,
SilverTiger12, I don't understand your edit summary
here. Is there anything wrong with the image? It's used on the article in fr.wiki and ru.wiki?
Valereee (
talk) 14:17, 14 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I removed it because it is an AI-generated image (with the associated issues THAT entails), and because as an AI-generated image, it isn't really representative of how people depict the Yule cat. So it doesn't really add anything of value to the article. Happy editing,
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 19:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)reply
It's fine to object on those concerns, but please use better edit summaries. "No thank you" is just meaningless, as well as being kind of dismissive.
Valereee (
talk) 19:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)reply
The full edit summary was "rmv AI-generated image: no, thank you" - the no-thank-you was to indicate my rejection of the AI-generated image.
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 19:43, 14 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Folklorist Árni Björnsson points to a footnote by Árnason which noted the existence of a
figure of speech, "to dress the cat", recorded by Árnason.[1]
This is confusing. Did Árnason create the figure of speech? Who "noted the existence"? Being unable to interpret the source myself, I wanted to check before making changes.
Would this work instead? (If so, implement it
) Folklorist Árni Björnsson points to a footnote by Árnason which uses the
figure of speech "to dress the cat".[2]
It would also be helpful to include the original Icelandic figure of speech in parentheses
That's all! Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Wrackingtalk! 05:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Wrackingtalk! 05:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
No, Arnason was recording the existence of a figure of speech in use at the time. I'm not sure what the phrase is in Icelandic, and I'm wary of trying to isolate it in an online translator. Thank you,
SilverTiger12 (
talk) 18:19, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
I recommend reading
Wikipedia:WikiProject Iceland/Style advice to learn about how Icelandic names are used. In short Icelanders are usually referred to by their first name instead of their last name. So instead of using Árnason (last name), it could be better to use Jón (first name). Personally, it doesn't matter to me but I thought I'd mention it. WanderingMorpheme 20:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
@
WanderingMorpheme, thanks for sharing! I've made changes based on this information. I also created a hatnote ({{
Icelandic name}} doesn't quite work here), which I welcome anyone to edit for accuracy/concision.
Wrackingtalk! 21:50, 22 December 2023 (UTC)reply
While living in the real world can be something of a pain, it seems better than getting lost in some make belief. For are tall tells about 'Yule Cats' the kind of stuff that Wikipedia should be highlighting? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
2.30.22.132 (
talk) 20:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)reply