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Since when is heroin a recreational drug? The person using it is developing a physical addiction very quickly until not taking it causes severe withdrawal symptoms. This is not meant by recreational use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.56.107.109 ( talk) 09:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm in dental school and we were taught that though xerostomia increases in prevalence with aging, it certainly is not a "natural result of aging," meaning it is still pathologic. I'd change it but I'm not sure how to word it. Also, to answer a previous post, I think that drinking fluids can sometimes make your mouth feel dry because it washes away the saliva and replaces it temporarily; saliva is a viscous fluid that sticks to teeth like a film, and isn't easily replaced. Matvx 03:02, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I merged the Cotton Mouth page into this page. Almost all the info was duplicate, so there was not much here to change. I think when people type Cotton Mouth they want this page, but there is a kind of candy called cotton mouth, so I added a disambiguation page link as well. Superclear 22:22, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Someone removed a link I made to Cotton Mouth the candy calling it a private joke. Really!! It is a homemade candy popular in the midwest for a few decades. Someone asked me for a recipe recently and I couldn't find much info about it so I added this page. Please don't just delete someone's work without at least a discussion. It is impolite and usually means the remover is not informed. Superclear 15:42, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
"Notably, a symptom of methamphetamine abuse, meth mouth, is largely caused by xerostomia." The foregoing statement (from the end of the first paragraph of the current revision) stinks of political correctness. Dry mouth is not unique to methamphetamine; it is common to all CNS stimulants. The statement is also almost certainly false. A previous revision read: "Marijuana acts as a particularly strong catalyst in drying out one's throat, mouth, and lips", which seems to have been replaced by the current dogma. This again wreaks of political correctness. If you're going to mention one drug with an associated side-effect of "xerostomia", you might as well list them all, or at least state why the example given is important.
I've just removed this:
There have been a number of studies that have shown that chewing gum increases salivary flow in patients with xerostomia of varying aetiology.1,2,3 In some xerostomic patients, the initial stimulated salivary flow rate while chewing sugarfree gum is seven times greater than the unstimulated flow rate.4 Chewing sugarfree gum has been shown to be one of the most preferred treatments for xerostomia.5
I believe it was added by an editor on behalf od Wrigley's gum. See Ellielancaster's edit history which seems to consist of adding links to wrigley's "oral health care" site and a few other promotional edits. As such I'm concerned that the above may not be neutral. It is, however, cited so I've moved it here for neutral editors to consider and to add with appropriate weight and counter balance should it merit inclusion. -- Siobhan Hansa 12:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is it that some times when you drink water it makes you feel like you have even more of a dry mouth after than before? seems kind of counterintuitive. My wife and I were having a discussion about it. I thought it was because the water washes your saliva away which leaves just the water which evaporates more quickly than saliva leaving you with a dry mouth. Is this correct or what is the answer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.188.50.165 ( talk) 23:32, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
If the text which these refs were supporting can be found in 2o sources I will retain the info in the article.
I'm going to place a mixture of the recommended headers for WP:MEDMOS#Symptoms or signs and WP:MEDMOS#Diseases or disorders or syndromes. Although xerostomia is a symptom, it is an inextricably linked topic with hyposalivation, which currently just redirects back to this page, and is arguably a disorder rather than a symptom. Lesion ( talk) 14:54, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Causes of hyposalivation:
management:
Lesion ( talk) 20:25, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Saliva stimulants – organic acids (ascorbic acid, malic acid), chewing gum, parasympathomimetic drugs (choline esters, e.g. pilocarpine hydrochloride, cholinesterase inhibitors), and other substances (sugar-free mints, nicotinamide).
Scientific References? Nicotinamide?
ee1518 ( talk) 05:09, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Nicotinamide reference 6 [1] Cochrane review. 92.40.82.118 ( talk) 20:28, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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Xerostomia → Salivary gland dysfunction – Salivary gland dysfunction is the umbrella term that would cover both Xerostomia and the redirected Hyposalivation. Salivary gland dysfunction is a much searched page and is used in ref to type 2 diabetes (absent on page at present) Iztwoz ( talk) 08:01, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
This article catalogues signs, symptoms, and causes, often linking them together or using these terms interchangeably. It includes emergent properties of dry mouth, such as increased cavity production, as a symptom. As far as I know, cavities are not a significant "sign or symptom" (these words are synonyms, as far as I know) that a person experiences dry mouth. Also, the causes list is problematic, listing several semi-rare diseases as causes of this very common and almost benign condition. Other wording in the article seems unwarranted, for example: "When associated with halitosis, [xerostomia] is sometimes termed "morning breath." This doesn't make sense. Halitosis is bad breath. Dry mouth is not bad breath, it is dry mouth. I think the user who wrote this incorrectly interpreted this idea from the fact that xerostomia causes halitosis, not the other way around. Maybe we could flag the article for expert review. -- IronMaidenRocks ( talk) 14:30, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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Since when is heroin a recreational drug? The person using it is developing a physical addiction very quickly until not taking it causes severe withdrawal symptoms. This is not meant by recreational use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.56.107.109 ( talk) 09:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
I'm in dental school and we were taught that though xerostomia increases in prevalence with aging, it certainly is not a "natural result of aging," meaning it is still pathologic. I'd change it but I'm not sure how to word it. Also, to answer a previous post, I think that drinking fluids can sometimes make your mouth feel dry because it washes away the saliva and replaces it temporarily; saliva is a viscous fluid that sticks to teeth like a film, and isn't easily replaced. Matvx 03:02, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I merged the Cotton Mouth page into this page. Almost all the info was duplicate, so there was not much here to change. I think when people type Cotton Mouth they want this page, but there is a kind of candy called cotton mouth, so I added a disambiguation page link as well. Superclear 22:22, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Someone removed a link I made to Cotton Mouth the candy calling it a private joke. Really!! It is a homemade candy popular in the midwest for a few decades. Someone asked me for a recipe recently and I couldn't find much info about it so I added this page. Please don't just delete someone's work without at least a discussion. It is impolite and usually means the remover is not informed. Superclear 15:42, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
"Notably, a symptom of methamphetamine abuse, meth mouth, is largely caused by xerostomia." The foregoing statement (from the end of the first paragraph of the current revision) stinks of political correctness. Dry mouth is not unique to methamphetamine; it is common to all CNS stimulants. The statement is also almost certainly false. A previous revision read: "Marijuana acts as a particularly strong catalyst in drying out one's throat, mouth, and lips", which seems to have been replaced by the current dogma. This again wreaks of political correctness. If you're going to mention one drug with an associated side-effect of "xerostomia", you might as well list them all, or at least state why the example given is important.
I've just removed this:
There have been a number of studies that have shown that chewing gum increases salivary flow in patients with xerostomia of varying aetiology.1,2,3 In some xerostomic patients, the initial stimulated salivary flow rate while chewing sugarfree gum is seven times greater than the unstimulated flow rate.4 Chewing sugarfree gum has been shown to be one of the most preferred treatments for xerostomia.5
I believe it was added by an editor on behalf od Wrigley's gum. See Ellielancaster's edit history which seems to consist of adding links to wrigley's "oral health care" site and a few other promotional edits. As such I'm concerned that the above may not be neutral. It is, however, cited so I've moved it here for neutral editors to consider and to add with appropriate weight and counter balance should it merit inclusion. -- Siobhan Hansa 12:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is it that some times when you drink water it makes you feel like you have even more of a dry mouth after than before? seems kind of counterintuitive. My wife and I were having a discussion about it. I thought it was because the water washes your saliva away which leaves just the water which evaporates more quickly than saliva leaving you with a dry mouth. Is this correct or what is the answer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.188.50.165 ( talk) 23:32, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
If the text which these refs were supporting can be found in 2o sources I will retain the info in the article.
I'm going to place a mixture of the recommended headers for WP:MEDMOS#Symptoms or signs and WP:MEDMOS#Diseases or disorders or syndromes. Although xerostomia is a symptom, it is an inextricably linked topic with hyposalivation, which currently just redirects back to this page, and is arguably a disorder rather than a symptom. Lesion ( talk) 14:54, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Causes of hyposalivation:
management:
Lesion ( talk) 20:25, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Saliva stimulants – organic acids (ascorbic acid, malic acid), chewing gum, parasympathomimetic drugs (choline esters, e.g. pilocarpine hydrochloride, cholinesterase inhibitors), and other substances (sugar-free mints, nicotinamide).
Scientific References? Nicotinamide?
ee1518 ( talk) 05:09, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Nicotinamide reference 6 [1] Cochrane review. 92.40.82.118 ( talk) 20:28, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Requestor withdrew RM. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 07:19, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Xerostomia → Salivary gland dysfunction – Salivary gland dysfunction is the umbrella term that would cover both Xerostomia and the redirected Hyposalivation. Salivary gland dysfunction is a much searched page and is used in ref to type 2 diabetes (absent on page at present) Iztwoz ( talk) 08:01, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
This article catalogues signs, symptoms, and causes, often linking them together or using these terms interchangeably. It includes emergent properties of dry mouth, such as increased cavity production, as a symptom. As far as I know, cavities are not a significant "sign or symptom" (these words are synonyms, as far as I know) that a person experiences dry mouth. Also, the causes list is problematic, listing several semi-rare diseases as causes of this very common and almost benign condition. Other wording in the article seems unwarranted, for example: "When associated with halitosis, [xerostomia] is sometimes termed "morning breath." This doesn't make sense. Halitosis is bad breath. Dry mouth is not bad breath, it is dry mouth. I think the user who wrote this incorrectly interpreted this idea from the fact that xerostomia causes halitosis, not the other way around. Maybe we could flag the article for expert review. -- IronMaidenRocks ( talk) 14:30, 30 August 2021 (UTC)