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Case in point- [1] A secondary sourced claim with no original/unreferenced claim in a Pilger book is far from safe to use. Nimmo 00:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC) reply

Point taken. Can you then provide evidence of an occasion when John Pilger has been proven to misquote someone? Alfonsotoastrack 18:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC) reply

It's not neccesary that he has misquoted someone. But where we have a polemicist with a viewpoint to confirm, the fact that he seems to be drawing on internet quotes of a primary source which does not in fact exist is troubling, to say the least. Nimmo 02:43, 27 September 2007 (UTC) reply

Well in the book he quotes the Washington post (August 30, 1999). I'm not convinced that this does not exist in the Washington Post Archives, as they charge a fee for viewing articles more than 60 days old, so I have been unable to establish whether this is legitimate or not. I assume you have paid the fee and confirmed this for yourself. I would also be sincerely grateful if you could provide examples of the "Numerous fabrications" that you claim pilger has been involved in. Thanks ( Alfonsotoastrack 13:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)) reply

I dont see anybody claiming anywhere "numerous fabrications." Just an incorrect quote. When one plugs the quote into google, one receives just a few non-reputable sites all citing each other. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22If+they+turn+on+the+radars+we%27re+going+to+blow+up+their+goddamn+SAMs+(surface-to-air+missiles).+They+know+we+own+their+country.+We+own+their+airspace...+We+dictate+the+way+they+live+and+talk.+And+that%27s+what%27s+great+about+America+right+now.+It%27s+a+good+thing%2C+especially+when+there%27s+a+lot+of+oil+out+there+we+need.%22+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a for ref of the search i used. Dogabutila ( talk) 20:07, 20 February 2009 (UTC) reply

i also took a look around http://www.highbeam.com/The+Washington+Post/publications.aspx?date=19990830 for anything and i couldnt find the quote or interview anywhere. Granted, it isnt actually the post itself, but it has all the articles. Additionally with further research, i found that the quote cites him as a brig general, when in reality he would have been a major general at that time. Unless somebody can come up with the actual scan of the quote i'll be taking it down. Dogabutila ( talk) 20:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC) reply

4 months - no cite and no answer. I'm going to take this quote down and if anybody can come up with a reputable citation for it, then they can add it back in. It really seems to be to be fabricated or misattributed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogabutila ( talk • contribs) 10:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC) reply