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The "Famous People" Heading has had a reference to a "Pete Hanlon" several times, once as a singer, and once as the author of a work entitled "Incident at Knee Pads." After searching, I can't find reference to either of these, or to Pete Hanlon as a prominent person or celebrity, so that kind of cuts out the "famous" part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22:55, 9 December 2005 ( talk • contribs)
I have added a segment on Watertown's role in labor and industrial history. I am a new Wikipedian and welcome help on tidying up my markup as I learn how to do it better. Lisa Williams 04:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to whomever added the material from the 1911 Brittanica. I made a change to the item about a school being named after Theodore Parker. The building is still standing and has Parker's name engraved above the door, but is not currently in service as a public school; interestingly, it is now the New England School of Accupuncture. Most residents would probably not recognize the phrase "Parker School" because it has not been called that in so many years. Lisa Williams 09:45, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought it was worthwhile to put the Armenian history museum in. It seemed to me to mesh nicely in the history section. Your mileage may vary, of course, so feel free to discuss, move, remove, whatever. I wonder if perhaps the History section ought to have a little more background from the 20th Century -- Thatnewguy 11:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC).
The section on racial makeup of the town has been vandalized. JBH23 13:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Under people, should Tom Reilly be added? He's not Watertown-born, but he's been identified with the city because of his long (17 years? Something silly) residency here.-- Thatnewguy 11:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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It would be helpful to have a map showing the original extent of the settlement's jurisdiction, and which neighboring municipalities have taken and given land to and from Watertown. -- Beland 01:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I edited the History section to make it more readable, breaking up long sentences and making more paragraphs from sentences of similar topics. I added a References section as well as a new historical reference. More history (and references) would be good. MacPhilbin 19:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
This section seems like nothing more than a bit of advertising. As a Watertown resident, I haven't heard of any of them, and the Web site for one gives its address in Waltham. Is it normal to add such links to city articles?-- JBH23 21:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Multiple times now I have put one line info for myself and a friend under the notable people section. We both grew up in Watertown from infancy through high school. Both of us are painters in the Boston area. Though not famous I thought it okay for us to put a little note and link to our personal arts websites. Multiple times they have been erased. Just because you don't know us, doens't mean we don't deserve at least a one sentence mention. I spent most of my life in Watertown dammit. We grew up there. Get a life and stop just erasing things you personally don't deem "worthy" of mention. Maybe whoever felt the need to erase should try to create something notable within their own life that is worthy of mention. It's pathetic. -Rocco B. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.47.96 ( talk) 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a news medium. Please wait until matters clarify themselves before adding, removing, editing, warring over this incident. There is no urgency to be first with the news here. When matters clarify themselves, please only add material fully cited in reliable sources Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 08:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
The history should link Massachusetts Bay Colony, at least, perhaps Winthrop Fleet. At least by rewrite, perhaps by expansion.
-- P64 ( talk) 18:46, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
In many articles in Wikipedia English, many cities and regions names are often written in several different forms, scripts, or languages to represent different nations, communities, and peoples that have had a strong affect on that city or region, whether it be political control, cultural, religious, or linguistic. Since Watertown, has acted as an Armenian district of the Boston Metropolis for 100 years, as well as the fact that there are long standing Armenian media that have operated in Boston for over 100 years, it is appropriate to have the name written in both English and transliterated in Armenian script as well.
I have tried to make this edit but there are a couple of editors that keep changing it on the basis that this is the English Wikipedia. This does not make sense to me, as there are many city articles in English Wikipedia that have the names translated into languages of significant, historical, and cultural significant people of that particular city, and seeing how Watertown has 1/3 of its population Armenian, and that Armenian population has been there for over 100 years, in addition to all the visible Armenian infrastructure in the city and long tradition of Armenian media in the city, that it is more than appropriate to have the name transliterated in Armenian letters, no different than any other city in the world described in English Wikipedia of its various historical demographics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geragos ( talk • contribs) 00:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
With regards to examples I am happy to provide them, as there are many.
Those are just 6 quick examples I found on Wikipedia English. If you will notice, two of those six examples are of US states. As you can see, if the name has a historical connection to the city or region, Wikipedia English allows you to use different translations, names, and transliterations. Please stop chasing all my edits, and undoing every single one, this can be viewed as malicious and starting edit wars, as I have clearly proven that your English Wikipedia basis is not supported for names of cities, as I have shown with other articles I posted here. Thank you. Wikipedia English is to be articles in English, but proper names are allowed to be translated or transliterated if there is a historical reason to do so. If we can, I would like to continue talking about this subject on this page about Watertown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geragos ( talk • contribs) 07:44, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
"Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted."
I've collapsed the discussions at the two California cities mentioned by Meters above (directing the conversation here) and added neutral notification on the talk pages at the two other California cities affected, namely Pasadena and Burbank. Pinging Mean as custard, the only editor that added to the California conversations that hasn't spoken here. John from Idegon ( talk) 00:55, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Under people shouldn't Bill Everett be added as he was raised in Watertown? He was a comic book artist who created Namor the Sub-mariner and co-created the Daredevil. He is also related to the famous Massachusetts Everett family and the very famous Poet/Artist William Blake. This is all according to his Wikipedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.27.66.130 ( talk) 05:29, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
School district, to be merged with area served MereTechnicality ⚙ 14:01, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
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This page needs a City government section. I checked Boston, Cambridge, and Newton, and they all have a section on Government that at a minimum describes the governmental form (e.g. "Boston has a strong mayor–council government system"). 146.115.176.181 ( talk) 06:01, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
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The "Famous People" Heading has had a reference to a "Pete Hanlon" several times, once as a singer, and once as the author of a work entitled "Incident at Knee Pads." After searching, I can't find reference to either of these, or to Pete Hanlon as a prominent person or celebrity, so that kind of cuts out the "famous" part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22:55, 9 December 2005 ( talk • contribs)
I have added a segment on Watertown's role in labor and industrial history. I am a new Wikipedian and welcome help on tidying up my markup as I learn how to do it better. Lisa Williams 04:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to whomever added the material from the 1911 Brittanica. I made a change to the item about a school being named after Theodore Parker. The building is still standing and has Parker's name engraved above the door, but is not currently in service as a public school; interestingly, it is now the New England School of Accupuncture. Most residents would probably not recognize the phrase "Parker School" because it has not been called that in so many years. Lisa Williams 09:45, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought it was worthwhile to put the Armenian history museum in. It seemed to me to mesh nicely in the history section. Your mileage may vary, of course, so feel free to discuss, move, remove, whatever. I wonder if perhaps the History section ought to have a little more background from the 20th Century -- Thatnewguy 11:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC).
The section on racial makeup of the town has been vandalized. JBH23 13:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Under people, should Tom Reilly be added? He's not Watertown-born, but he's been identified with the city because of his long (17 years? Something silly) residency here.-- Thatnewguy 11:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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It would be helpful to have a map showing the original extent of the settlement's jurisdiction, and which neighboring municipalities have taken and given land to and from Watertown. -- Beland 01:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I edited the History section to make it more readable, breaking up long sentences and making more paragraphs from sentences of similar topics. I added a References section as well as a new historical reference. More history (and references) would be good. MacPhilbin 19:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
This section seems like nothing more than a bit of advertising. As a Watertown resident, I haven't heard of any of them, and the Web site for one gives its address in Waltham. Is it normal to add such links to city articles?-- JBH23 21:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Multiple times now I have put one line info for myself and a friend under the notable people section. We both grew up in Watertown from infancy through high school. Both of us are painters in the Boston area. Though not famous I thought it okay for us to put a little note and link to our personal arts websites. Multiple times they have been erased. Just because you don't know us, doens't mean we don't deserve at least a one sentence mention. I spent most of my life in Watertown dammit. We grew up there. Get a life and stop just erasing things you personally don't deem "worthy" of mention. Maybe whoever felt the need to erase should try to create something notable within their own life that is worthy of mention. It's pathetic. -Rocco B. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.47.96 ( talk) 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a news medium. Please wait until matters clarify themselves before adding, removing, editing, warring over this incident. There is no urgency to be first with the news here. When matters clarify themselves, please only add material fully cited in reliable sources Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 08:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
The history should link Massachusetts Bay Colony, at least, perhaps Winthrop Fleet. At least by rewrite, perhaps by expansion.
-- P64 ( talk) 18:46, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
In many articles in Wikipedia English, many cities and regions names are often written in several different forms, scripts, or languages to represent different nations, communities, and peoples that have had a strong affect on that city or region, whether it be political control, cultural, religious, or linguistic. Since Watertown, has acted as an Armenian district of the Boston Metropolis for 100 years, as well as the fact that there are long standing Armenian media that have operated in Boston for over 100 years, it is appropriate to have the name written in both English and transliterated in Armenian script as well.
I have tried to make this edit but there are a couple of editors that keep changing it on the basis that this is the English Wikipedia. This does not make sense to me, as there are many city articles in English Wikipedia that have the names translated into languages of significant, historical, and cultural significant people of that particular city, and seeing how Watertown has 1/3 of its population Armenian, and that Armenian population has been there for over 100 years, in addition to all the visible Armenian infrastructure in the city and long tradition of Armenian media in the city, that it is more than appropriate to have the name transliterated in Armenian letters, no different than any other city in the world described in English Wikipedia of its various historical demographics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geragos ( talk • contribs) 00:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
With regards to examples I am happy to provide them, as there are many.
Those are just 6 quick examples I found on Wikipedia English. If you will notice, two of those six examples are of US states. As you can see, if the name has a historical connection to the city or region, Wikipedia English allows you to use different translations, names, and transliterations. Please stop chasing all my edits, and undoing every single one, this can be viewed as malicious and starting edit wars, as I have clearly proven that your English Wikipedia basis is not supported for names of cities, as I have shown with other articles I posted here. Thank you. Wikipedia English is to be articles in English, but proper names are allowed to be translated or transliterated if there is a historical reason to do so. If we can, I would like to continue talking about this subject on this page about Watertown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geragos ( talk • contribs) 07:44, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
"Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted."
I've collapsed the discussions at the two California cities mentioned by Meters above (directing the conversation here) and added neutral notification on the talk pages at the two other California cities affected, namely Pasadena and Burbank. Pinging Mean as custard, the only editor that added to the California conversations that hasn't spoken here. John from Idegon ( talk) 00:55, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Under people shouldn't Bill Everett be added as he was raised in Watertown? He was a comic book artist who created Namor the Sub-mariner and co-created the Daredevil. He is also related to the famous Massachusetts Everett family and the very famous Poet/Artist William Blake. This is all according to his Wikipedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.27.66.130 ( talk) 05:29, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
School district, to be merged with area served MereTechnicality ⚙ 14:01, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
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This page needs a City government section. I checked Boston, Cambridge, and Newton, and they all have a section on Government that at a minimum describes the governmental form (e.g. "Boston has a strong mayor–council government system"). 146.115.176.181 ( talk) 06:01, 16 June 2023 (UTC)