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"Waffen-SS conscripts sworn in after 1943 were exempted from the judgement owing to their conscription." This seems like an important sentence, but is very vague. Does it apply everywhere? or only certain countries? Is there a SPECIFIC DATE involved? Does "after 1943" mean beginning in January, 1944. Is there a reference?
This article is certainly wrong in many ways. Here's just two examples.
1. The British Free Corps had ~1500 members? Wikipedia's own page on the BFC says it had something like 57. Why, then, is the number inflated by a factor of almost 30 on this page? 2. There was an Irish brigade of the SS with 400 members? That seems fanciful at best, but it's wrong, without doubt, to include Irish volunteers under the United Kingdom bullet. Ireland is not part of the UK.
Did you check the relevant citations for the numbers issue? Ireland isn't part of the UK, but numerous ethnic Irish live in Northern Ireland, and the Irish of the Free State volunteered in the British Army during ww2, leading to ostracisation post war Kind Regards, NotAnotherNameGuy ( talk) 21:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi @
Obenritter I cannot find the content supporting the participation of Serbian volunteers within the Prinz Eugen Division, All I could find on the source provided (Gilbert 242-243) was: On October 1942 the division … was 92 percent Volksdeutsche, the remaining percentage coming from Reich Germans occupying senior or technical positions
maybe you meant a different page or I could also have a different edition! would you mind double checking? thank you
Aeengath (
talk) 13:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Following the previous conversation with @ Obenritter I suggest converting the section Foreign Waffen-SS units recruited by Nazi Germany into a list/table format, as shown below. I believe this change would improve clarity and conciseness in that section of the article while also addressing inaccuracies. Aeengath ( talk) 16:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
@ Obenritter; @ Kierzek; @ Brigade Piron list proposal and new name for foreign units section
Designation | Formation | Personnel | Peak size | Notes |
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33rd Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS Charlemagne | Feb 1945 [1] | French [2] | 7,340 [3] | Formed from LVF, Brigade Frankreich and other French military collaborators. [3] |
30th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Belarusian) | Aug 1944 [4] | Belarusian, Polish, Russian, and Ukrainian [4] | 10,000 [5] | Formed from Schutzmannschaft-Brigade Siegling personnel [6] |
7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen | March 1942 [7] | 92% Ethnic Germans [8] ( Volksdeutsche) from the Serbian Banat, Croatia, Hungary and Romania. [9] with some Reich German cadres [10] | 20,624 [10] |
References
Aeengath ( talk) 16:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC) edited Aeengath ( talk) 19:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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"Waffen-SS conscripts sworn in after 1943 were exempted from the judgement owing to their conscription." This seems like an important sentence, but is very vague. Does it apply everywhere? or only certain countries? Is there a SPECIFIC DATE involved? Does "after 1943" mean beginning in January, 1944. Is there a reference?
This article is certainly wrong in many ways. Here's just two examples.
1. The British Free Corps had ~1500 members? Wikipedia's own page on the BFC says it had something like 57. Why, then, is the number inflated by a factor of almost 30 on this page? 2. There was an Irish brigade of the SS with 400 members? That seems fanciful at best, but it's wrong, without doubt, to include Irish volunteers under the United Kingdom bullet. Ireland is not part of the UK.
Did you check the relevant citations for the numbers issue? Ireland isn't part of the UK, but numerous ethnic Irish live in Northern Ireland, and the Irish of the Free State volunteered in the British Army during ww2, leading to ostracisation post war Kind Regards, NotAnotherNameGuy ( talk) 21:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi @
Obenritter I cannot find the content supporting the participation of Serbian volunteers within the Prinz Eugen Division, All I could find on the source provided (Gilbert 242-243) was: On October 1942 the division … was 92 percent Volksdeutsche, the remaining percentage coming from Reich Germans occupying senior or technical positions
maybe you meant a different page or I could also have a different edition! would you mind double checking? thank you
Aeengath (
talk) 13:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Following the previous conversation with @ Obenritter I suggest converting the section Foreign Waffen-SS units recruited by Nazi Germany into a list/table format, as shown below. I believe this change would improve clarity and conciseness in that section of the article while also addressing inaccuracies. Aeengath ( talk) 16:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
@ Obenritter; @ Kierzek; @ Brigade Piron list proposal and new name for foreign units section
Designation | Formation | Personnel | Peak size | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
33rd Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS Charlemagne | Feb 1945 [1] | French [2] | 7,340 [3] | Formed from LVF, Brigade Frankreich and other French military collaborators. [3] |
30th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Belarusian) | Aug 1944 [4] | Belarusian, Polish, Russian, and Ukrainian [4] | 10,000 [5] | Formed from Schutzmannschaft-Brigade Siegling personnel [6] |
7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen | March 1942 [7] | 92% Ethnic Germans [8] ( Volksdeutsche) from the Serbian Banat, Croatia, Hungary and Romania. [9] with some Reich German cadres [10] | 20,624 [10] |
References
Aeengath ( talk) 16:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC) edited Aeengath ( talk) 19:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)