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Priority

Considering that Vaishnavism is the primary sect of Hinduism and most of the Hindus consider Vishnu as the Ultimate Being himself, shouldn't Vaishnavism have the priority especially at the introduction? — कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 06:26, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Also note that non-Vaishnavas generally do not worship Vishnu. So worshipping Vishnu as a concept almost always means worshipping the Absolute Being and Absolute Self. — कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 06:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Vishnu is a pan-Hindu deity, not restricted to Vaishnavism. For Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, we need to introduce him in a pan-Hindu context. Similar treatment is given in other references Britannica, The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Hinduism p. 759, dictionary of Gods and Goddesses p. 342. Redtigerxyz Talk 12:32, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Revert of referenced informations

@ DaxServer, could you please clarify the reason behind your reverts? — कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 09:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I guess you decide not to answer, so please clarify reasons before reverting next time. — कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

This is regarding Gautam Buddha

I don't understand. Why are you saying this budda is the incarnation of Vishnu. This is completely false information. Remove this from Wikipedia. 103.177.82.205 ( talk) 16:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply

If you bothered to read Gautama Buddha in Hinduism, you'd know multiple Puranas mention the Buddha as an incarnation of Vishnu. Chronikhiles (talk) 10:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Lord Vishnu

Edit description by changes such as “in Vaishnavism one of the major contemporary within Hinduism ”

Add changes by supreme Being as Supreme Lord, in Shiva Wikipedia it is mentioned as Lord, then why you mentioned in this page unauthentic, kindly edit clearly and give all importance to all Deities in Hinduism. 2409:4071:4DBD:495E:E592:8C16:2012:76FA ( talk) 10:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Change a Lord Vishnu Picture and add a common deception of Vishnu with four attributes .

Add a beautiful images of God Vishnu. Plz edit anyone.

@ Krsnaquli: @ Chronikhiles: @ Chariotrider555: @ Redtigerxyz: 2409:4071:2104:311C:827B:8D73:BE76:E78 ( talk) 17:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Agree the main infobox image should be Vishnu alone, without the avatars. Redtigerxyz Talk 17:35, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
There's a painting by Ravi Varma Press called Shree Vishnu that I think fulfils your criteria. According to one site it's supposedly from the 1920s - 30s. I'm still kind of murky about copyright and domain so I'm not sure how to upload it. Maybe we could get some consensus about this or another painting and try to make sure it will be here to stay before it replaces the current infobox image. Chronikhiles (talk) 03:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Add this image.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hinduism/comments/vlm5a8/lord_vishnu/#lightbox 2409:4071:2104:311C:B51B:6ABB:7159:D504 ( talk) 04:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Not happening, this is both non-conventional and digital art. Familiarise yourself with Wikipedia:Image use policy before you make suggestions. Chronikhiles (talk) 09:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
File:Vishnu.jpg is a good choice. Is only a picture of Viṣṇu in with four arms, blue skin, and holding conch, discus, mace, and lotus as in typical iconography. Chariotrider555 ( talk) 15:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Low resolution though. Chronikhiles (talk) 17:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Here is a higher quality scan. Chariotrider555 ( talk) 15:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Apart from the dim lighting, I think it could work. Chronikhiles (talk) 07:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Vishnu from Gita Govinda
@ Chronikhiles
Add this image to Wiki, there is beautiful images for other deities, but there is no such image for Vishnu ji, add this image, accept our suggestion
God Vishnu
Vinay viniyl ( talk) 14:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Is this even public domain or just a random painting of Vishnu from Google? The artist, dating, and copyright status are all absent. We need a good representation plus these details to make an infobox image change stick. Chronikhiles (talk) 16:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Chronikhiles, Chariotrider555 Propose the following image depicts Vishnu with the four attributes, vanamala, Kaustaubh necklace, blue colour and PD: Redtigerxyz Talk 05:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/God_Vishnu.jpg Vinay viniyl ( talk) 07:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
BBT images are copyrighted Redtigerxyz Talk 11:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
God_Vishnu Vinay viniyl ( talk) 08:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Redtigerxyz I think despite the fact that Vishnu isn't generally depicted as seated, the Rajasthan school painting works. Chronikhiles (talk) 11:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I am changing for now, until a suitable representation can be found. We may also consider the following: Redtigerxyz Talk 11:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
User:Redtigerxyz, the image you suggest seems to struggle with balancing traditional painting style with Western influence, which is a bit off-putting artistically. Vishnu faces directly toward the viewer, but the artist does not seem to have a strong grasp on painting faces in Western photorealistic style nor proper 3D perspective. I think for an infobox image, the depiction should try to remain within a more firmly traditional depiction of painting or perhaps a pre-modern sculpture or idol of Vishnu. Chariotrider555 ( talk) 15:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Based on my experience, I think conventional paintings, immaterial of school, are generally the preferred representations of Hindu deities on the infobox. Of course, it's not a rule (Krishna, Lakshmana) but I'd personally be for a painting. Chronikhiles (talk) 07:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
In talk page we didn't discuss about this image, we suggest only authentic image,Why you changed the old photo, atleast add previous image idol of Vishnu,see other Hindu deities , can you make changes? This is very propaganda on Vaishnavism.I know you are shaivism, you jealous on Bhagavan Vishnu. Shame on you.
@ Redtigerxyz
@ Chronikhiles
@ joshu Jonathan
@ Dougweller
@ Chariotrider555
@ Hinduism 2409:4071:4D85:A5DC:DC44:72FF:E2F8:2D40 ( talk) 12:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lord_Narayana.jpg Vinay viniyl ( talk) 08:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Vishnu Bhagwan.
Vishnu
Vinay viniyl ( talk) 08:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Priority

Considering that Vaishnavism is the primary sect of Hinduism and most of the Hindus consider Vishnu as the Ultimate Being himself, shouldn't Vaishnavism have the priority especially at the introduction? — कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 06:26, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Also note that non-Vaishnavas generally do not worship Vishnu. So worshipping Vishnu as a concept almost always means worshipping the Absolute Being and Absolute Self. — कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 06:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Vishnu is a pan-Hindu deity, not restricted to Vaishnavism. For Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, we need to introduce him in a pan-Hindu context. Similar treatment is given in other references Britannica, The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Hinduism p. 759, dictionary of Gods and Goddesses p. 342. Redtigerxyz Talk 12:32, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Revert of referenced informations

@ DaxServer, could you please clarify the reason behind your reverts? — कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 09:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I guess you decide not to answer, so please clarify reasons before reverting next time. — कृष्णकुलिKrsnaquli || Contact - 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC) reply

This is regarding Gautam Buddha

I don't understand. Why are you saying this budda is the incarnation of Vishnu. This is completely false information. Remove this from Wikipedia. 103.177.82.205 ( talk) 16:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC) reply

If you bothered to read Gautama Buddha in Hinduism, you'd know multiple Puranas mention the Buddha as an incarnation of Vishnu. Chronikhiles (talk) 10:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Lord Vishnu

Edit description by changes such as “in Vaishnavism one of the major contemporary within Hinduism ”

Add changes by supreme Being as Supreme Lord, in Shiva Wikipedia it is mentioned as Lord, then why you mentioned in this page unauthentic, kindly edit clearly and give all importance to all Deities in Hinduism. 2409:4071:4DBD:495E:E592:8C16:2012:76FA ( talk) 10:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Change a Lord Vishnu Picture and add a common deception of Vishnu with four attributes .

Add a beautiful images of God Vishnu. Plz edit anyone.

@ Krsnaquli: @ Chronikhiles: @ Chariotrider555: @ Redtigerxyz: 2409:4071:2104:311C:827B:8D73:BE76:E78 ( talk) 17:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Agree the main infobox image should be Vishnu alone, without the avatars. Redtigerxyz Talk 17:35, 21 April 2024 (UTC) reply
There's a painting by Ravi Varma Press called Shree Vishnu that I think fulfils your criteria. According to one site it's supposedly from the 1920s - 30s. I'm still kind of murky about copyright and domain so I'm not sure how to upload it. Maybe we could get some consensus about this or another painting and try to make sure it will be here to stay before it replaces the current infobox image. Chronikhiles (talk) 03:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Add this image.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hinduism/comments/vlm5a8/lord_vishnu/#lightbox 2409:4071:2104:311C:B51B:6ABB:7159:D504 ( talk) 04:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Not happening, this is both non-conventional and digital art. Familiarise yourself with Wikipedia:Image use policy before you make suggestions. Chronikhiles (talk) 09:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
File:Vishnu.jpg is a good choice. Is only a picture of Viṣṇu in with four arms, blue skin, and holding conch, discus, mace, and lotus as in typical iconography. Chariotrider555 ( talk) 15:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Low resolution though. Chronikhiles (talk) 17:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Here is a higher quality scan. Chariotrider555 ( talk) 15:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Apart from the dim lighting, I think it could work. Chronikhiles (talk) 07:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Vishnu from Gita Govinda
@ Chronikhiles
Add this image to Wiki, there is beautiful images for other deities, but there is no such image for Vishnu ji, add this image, accept our suggestion
God Vishnu
Vinay viniyl ( talk) 14:02, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Is this even public domain or just a random painting of Vishnu from Google? The artist, dating, and copyright status are all absent. We need a good representation plus these details to make an infobox image change stick. Chronikhiles (talk) 16:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Chronikhiles, Chariotrider555 Propose the following image depicts Vishnu with the four attributes, vanamala, Kaustaubh necklace, blue colour and PD: Redtigerxyz Talk 05:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/God_Vishnu.jpg Vinay viniyl ( talk) 07:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
BBT images are copyrighted Redtigerxyz Talk 11:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
God_Vishnu Vinay viniyl ( talk) 08:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Redtigerxyz I think despite the fact that Vishnu isn't generally depicted as seated, the Rajasthan school painting works. Chronikhiles (talk) 11:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I am changing for now, until a suitable representation can be found. We may also consider the following: Redtigerxyz Talk 11:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
User:Redtigerxyz, the image you suggest seems to struggle with balancing traditional painting style with Western influence, which is a bit off-putting artistically. Vishnu faces directly toward the viewer, but the artist does not seem to have a strong grasp on painting faces in Western photorealistic style nor proper 3D perspective. I think for an infobox image, the depiction should try to remain within a more firmly traditional depiction of painting or perhaps a pre-modern sculpture or idol of Vishnu. Chariotrider555 ( talk) 15:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Based on my experience, I think conventional paintings, immaterial of school, are generally the preferred representations of Hindu deities on the infobox. Of course, it's not a rule (Krishna, Lakshmana) but I'd personally be for a painting. Chronikhiles (talk) 07:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
In talk page we didn't discuss about this image, we suggest only authentic image,Why you changed the old photo, atleast add previous image idol of Vishnu,see other Hindu deities , can you make changes? This is very propaganda on Vaishnavism.I know you are shaivism, you jealous on Bhagavan Vishnu. Shame on you.
@ Redtigerxyz
@ Chronikhiles
@ joshu Jonathan
@ Dougweller
@ Chariotrider555
@ Hinduism 2409:4071:4D85:A5DC:DC44:72FF:E2F8:2D40 ( talk) 12:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC) reply
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lord_Narayana.jpg Vinay viniyl ( talk) 08:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Vishnu Bhagwan.
Vishnu
Vinay viniyl ( talk) 08:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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