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Chaotic talk page archives

There are many non-conventional talk page archives here. Ideally someone would take the time to refactor them so that the archive bot can count them in the usual way, "Archive 1", "Archive 2". etc. As things are now there are two archiving schemes, "Archive_1" and "Archive01", which confuses the bot.

There are additional problems. In 2006 when Wikipedia was wilder there were different standards, and many of these archives are proposed drafts rather than discussion. Perhaps the draft content could have one sort of special archiving, and the actual talk page discussions could get the conventional archiving.

Finally a lot of the talk in the archives is unsigned. Archive bots depend on signatures to sort content, so content without signatures gets improperly archived. I think it would be too much labor to sort all of this and there is no good automated way to clean it. However, going forward, it would be nice to clean the latest archive, number 10 or 11, and to confirm messages from here on get proper archiving.

I was looking at this as one of the bigger businesses in the United States. I have no particular knowledge of this company. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello, BlueRasberry. It is nice to see you again. You're entirely correct about the chaotic state of the archives for this talk page! I don't know why that is the case. USAA Federal Savings Bank is approximately the 25th largest by assets in the United States, and it is a major property and casualty insurance company. I'm not sure what was going on in those archives though... and it isn't typical of the company culture, especially since a lot of the dates were from before 2010 or even 2006, when the company was doing very well. I will make an effort to clean up Archive 11 if I have time. Thank you for pointing this out!-- FeralOink ( talk) 12:09, 25 July 2022 (UTC) reply
@ FeralOink: You take a first pass, let me know when you are done, then I will look again. Someone has to make a decision and if there are two of us here, we should complete it now. The end result should be normal archives going forward. Thanks, good to meet again. Bluerasberry (talk) 12:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC) reply
FYI, those old talk pages are probably full of disputes regarding a particular editor (and sockpuppets) who was fixated on USAA. -- A. B. ( talkcontribsglobal count) 23:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC) reply

USAA assets, apples and oranges

@ The Financial Scribe: Thanks for your efforts to update the assets of USAA. However, can the dramatic drop from $200 billion to $110 billion be due solely to the passage of time?

  • The Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council reports $204,720,000 total assets for the United Services Automobile Association, as of yesterday, 2023-07-31.
  • You changed that to report $110.88 billion However, this latter figure was for USAA Federal Savings Bank, which is a subsidiary of USAA, with just over half of USAA's total assets. I haven't studied this, but I believe that most if not all of the rest of USAA's assets are in other securities to back their insurance business.

I appreciate your work to update these numbers, but I worry that you may have misinterpreted your source, at least for this. I do NOT plan to revert your edit. I'll leave that to someone else. Thanks again, DavidMCEddy ( talk) 15:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Hey David, thank you for informing me about this. I will revert the changes to this and my listings. The Financial Scribe ( talk) 15:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chaotic talk page archives

There are many non-conventional talk page archives here. Ideally someone would take the time to refactor them so that the archive bot can count them in the usual way, "Archive 1", "Archive 2". etc. As things are now there are two archiving schemes, "Archive_1" and "Archive01", which confuses the bot.

There are additional problems. In 2006 when Wikipedia was wilder there were different standards, and many of these archives are proposed drafts rather than discussion. Perhaps the draft content could have one sort of special archiving, and the actual talk page discussions could get the conventional archiving.

Finally a lot of the talk in the archives is unsigned. Archive bots depend on signatures to sort content, so content without signatures gets improperly archived. I think it would be too much labor to sort all of this and there is no good automated way to clean it. However, going forward, it would be nice to clean the latest archive, number 10 or 11, and to confirm messages from here on get proper archiving.

I was looking at this as one of the bigger businesses in the United States. I have no particular knowledge of this company. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello, BlueRasberry. It is nice to see you again. You're entirely correct about the chaotic state of the archives for this talk page! I don't know why that is the case. USAA Federal Savings Bank is approximately the 25th largest by assets in the United States, and it is a major property and casualty insurance company. I'm not sure what was going on in those archives though... and it isn't typical of the company culture, especially since a lot of the dates were from before 2010 or even 2006, when the company was doing very well. I will make an effort to clean up Archive 11 if I have time. Thank you for pointing this out!-- FeralOink ( talk) 12:09, 25 July 2022 (UTC) reply
@ FeralOink: You take a first pass, let me know when you are done, then I will look again. Someone has to make a decision and if there are two of us here, we should complete it now. The end result should be normal archives going forward. Thanks, good to meet again. Bluerasberry (talk) 12:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC) reply
FYI, those old talk pages are probably full of disputes regarding a particular editor (and sockpuppets) who was fixated on USAA. -- A. B. ( talkcontribsglobal count) 23:32, 16 November 2022 (UTC) reply

USAA assets, apples and oranges

@ The Financial Scribe: Thanks for your efforts to update the assets of USAA. However, can the dramatic drop from $200 billion to $110 billion be due solely to the passage of time?

  • The Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council reports $204,720,000 total assets for the United Services Automobile Association, as of yesterday, 2023-07-31.
  • You changed that to report $110.88 billion However, this latter figure was for USAA Federal Savings Bank, which is a subsidiary of USAA, with just over half of USAA's total assets. I haven't studied this, but I believe that most if not all of the rest of USAA's assets are in other securities to back their insurance business.

I appreciate your work to update these numbers, but I worry that you may have misinterpreted your source, at least for this. I do NOT plan to revert your edit. I'll leave that to someone else. Thanks again, DavidMCEddy ( talk) 15:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Hey David, thank you for informing me about this. I will revert the changes to this and my listings. The Financial Scribe ( talk) 15:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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