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I was just wondering, whether each election deserves it's own page, in a similar style to what they do for local and general elections for each area. Even if one page dealt with the whole of, lets say the north-west for example would you think it a worthwhile cause? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.165.42 ( talk) 19:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC) reply

Bias

"Most groups view the UK youth parliament as a highly effective organisation, which commands the attention of members of parliament and government ministers." Oh, really? Ask a random ex-MYP just what exactly he accomplished. While I don't have a source to counter this statement, I can do what we're meant to do with sentences exhibiting such blatant bias: delete it. -- User:Wozocoxonoy 10:59 GMT; 26th Jan '07

"Those elected for UKYP get to hold the much sought-after suffix of MYP in their names. They do much great work and are some of the most powerful under 18s in the country." This last paragraph also seems heavily biased towards the UKYP. Perhaps it should also be consider for deletion? Ross Penman ( talk) 21:34, 10 July 2014 (UTC) reply

1)I would use the primary sources (eg, their manifesto / website) as citations, not only links, to confirm all the info it can. Although primary sources are sometimes problematic, in this case they are reliable when talking about internal facts (ie manifesto, candidates, terms of office). For GA, it looks insufficiently sourced, but using the primary sources, this should be solvable. Of course, the same facts from newspapers would be even better.

2)The sections seem too small and choppy. I think many could be combined, making the article flow better. Just have to thing of an better overall section title "Regulations" or "Organisation" or something.

3) The lead should act as a summary of the article. Although only a short article, it is quite fact heave, so i would expand the lead so that it contained a one (max. 2) sentence summary of each of the current sections.Yobmod (talk) 11:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

4) For getting GA status, i would like to see more on the reception and the publics perception. It does look a bit like a joke token (sorry!), so have more people criticised its usefulness? Or said it is something just for public school kids? Or is over/under representing some regions? Just something to fill in slow news days on Newsround or Blue Peter? Or have any of the comments already in the article be contested officialy or in editorials anywhere? And expansion of the criticisms would already there: who are they failing to represent? What is wrong with their relationship with devolved nations? I assume it is in the sources, but would be nice to make it clearer for readers here. Yobmod ( talk) 11:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Meetings

Would it be an idea to create a new page for 'Meetings of the UK Youth Parliament'? The section on the page is being added to, but soon there will be further information on Annual Sittings and potential further House of Commons Debates, and it could be useful to give it a page of its own where more depth can be added to explain what the organisation does - particularly following the media interest over last year's first use of the House. The 'Meetings' section could then be brief, with a 'main article here' link, as with 'Member of Youth Parliament'. Brains351 ( talk) 23:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC) reply

POV

This article doesn't appear to be neutral. Phrases like "They do much great work and are some of the most powerful under 18s in the country" are unsourced, and not particularly accurate. Jazzmista ( talk) 21:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC) reply

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This article currently seems to have a neutral POV (and sections on praise and criticism), so I suggest removing the POV marker. Any views? Tacyarg ( talk) 18:26, 14 September 2017 (UTC) reply

I agree, as there are two sections on praise and criticism, which makes the argument more balanced. The things that were previously issues a few years ago, to my knowledge have been edited out. It is written factually rather than an opinion, so I believe that it's POV is neutral and so I would support the marker being removed -- Will d601 ( talk) 15:06, 3 November 2019 (UTC) reply

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Elections

I was just wondering, whether each election deserves it's own page, in a similar style to what they do for local and general elections for each area. Even if one page dealt with the whole of, lets say the north-west for example would you think it a worthwhile cause? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.165.42 ( talk) 19:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC) reply

Bias

"Most groups view the UK youth parliament as a highly effective organisation, which commands the attention of members of parliament and government ministers." Oh, really? Ask a random ex-MYP just what exactly he accomplished. While I don't have a source to counter this statement, I can do what we're meant to do with sentences exhibiting such blatant bias: delete it. -- User:Wozocoxonoy 10:59 GMT; 26th Jan '07

"Those elected for UKYP get to hold the much sought-after suffix of MYP in their names. They do much great work and are some of the most powerful under 18s in the country." This last paragraph also seems heavily biased towards the UKYP. Perhaps it should also be consider for deletion? Ross Penman ( talk) 21:34, 10 July 2014 (UTC) reply

1)I would use the primary sources (eg, their manifesto / website) as citations, not only links, to confirm all the info it can. Although primary sources are sometimes problematic, in this case they are reliable when talking about internal facts (ie manifesto, candidates, terms of office). For GA, it looks insufficiently sourced, but using the primary sources, this should be solvable. Of course, the same facts from newspapers would be even better.

2)The sections seem too small and choppy. I think many could be combined, making the article flow better. Just have to thing of an better overall section title "Regulations" or "Organisation" or something.

3) The lead should act as a summary of the article. Although only a short article, it is quite fact heave, so i would expand the lead so that it contained a one (max. 2) sentence summary of each of the current sections.Yobmod (talk) 11:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

4) For getting GA status, i would like to see more on the reception and the publics perception. It does look a bit like a joke token (sorry!), so have more people criticised its usefulness? Or said it is something just for public school kids? Or is over/under representing some regions? Just something to fill in slow news days on Newsround or Blue Peter? Or have any of the comments already in the article be contested officialy or in editorials anywhere? And expansion of the criticisms would already there: who are they failing to represent? What is wrong with their relationship with devolved nations? I assume it is in the sources, but would be nice to make it clearer for readers here. Yobmod ( talk) 11:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC) reply

Meetings

Would it be an idea to create a new page for 'Meetings of the UK Youth Parliament'? The section on the page is being added to, but soon there will be further information on Annual Sittings and potential further House of Commons Debates, and it could be useful to give it a page of its own where more depth can be added to explain what the organisation does - particularly following the media interest over last year's first use of the House. The 'Meetings' section could then be brief, with a 'main article here' link, as with 'Member of Youth Parliament'. Brains351 ( talk) 23:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC) reply

POV

This article doesn't appear to be neutral. Phrases like "They do much great work and are some of the most powerful under 18s in the country" are unsourced, and not particularly accurate. Jazzmista ( talk) 21:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC) reply

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I agree, as there are two sections on praise and criticism, which makes the argument more balanced. The things that were previously issues a few years ago, to my knowledge have been edited out. It is written factually rather than an opinion, so I believe that it's POV is neutral and so I would support the marker being removed -- Will d601 ( talk) 15:06, 3 November 2019 (UTC) reply

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