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I know there have been TONS of issues with the US control of prostitutes and what not in Subic Bay. It was an area for a lot of discontent and closure of the base. The US maintained a military hospital in the mountain in which prostitutes would be forcibly taken if they were thought the have an STD (but the soldiers would not be taken). Also - there was a lot of issues with American born wed-locked children and what not. Rape was of course another big issue. I think there was something like 32,000 kids born to American servicemen who were stuck in Subic bay. Someone should write on this if they can find the sources - I know there are some documentaries and stuff. This is a very important aspect of this base - this article is way to NPOV and glorifies the base as all good.
Also - there is the current issue of the marine being given 30 years for rape in Subic bay ( a landmark case ) that happened in Dec of 2006.
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I would like others who would like to add this to this article to be mindful of Point of View conflicts that may arise from adding the alleged rape to this article. Rather I suggest that a new article be created if one wants to posted something regardin the alleged rape.
If you read the entirety of this page,
http://www.topix.net/forum/news/jonbenet-ramsey/T6JAFL0B6GFBRE9PQ/p2
you will see that there's a spirited controversy over whether the initials S.B.T.C. stand for Subic Bay Training Center.
Can anyone add some information about this to the article, one way or the other?
I think this is written far too poetically. It gives hints of bias and seems to have been written by someone sentimental for the base. This requires a re-write so it sounds more encyclopedic. Jolb 14:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Dependents mean wifes and children of the Military personel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.7.196 ( talk) 09:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
The Military Bases Agreement of 1947 provided for a lease of 99 years, yet the U.S. was forced to leave in 1991. When was the lease shortened? Drutt ( talk) 02:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I found this interesting, but was not sure where to put (in a reduced form, not as a blockquote) in the article:
That's from this Washington Monthly article. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Found this article while reading the Philippines & Asian Report:
Olongapo City Mayor James Gordon Jr. said he was confident that a "dual economy" could exist in Subic.
Granted I understand that this falls under WP:NOTNEWS and WP:CRYSTAL, but this is something to keep an eye on. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 07:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
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I know there have been TONS of issues with the US control of prostitutes and what not in Subic Bay. It was an area for a lot of discontent and closure of the base. The US maintained a military hospital in the mountain in which prostitutes would be forcibly taken if they were thought the have an STD (but the soldiers would not be taken). Also - there was a lot of issues with American born wed-locked children and what not. Rape was of course another big issue. I think there was something like 32,000 kids born to American servicemen who were stuck in Subic bay. Someone should write on this if they can find the sources - I know there are some documentaries and stuff. This is a very important aspect of this base - this article is way to NPOV and glorifies the base as all good.
Also - there is the current issue of the marine being given 30 years for rape in Subic bay ( a landmark case ) that happened in Dec of 2006.
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I would like others who would like to add this to this article to be mindful of Point of View conflicts that may arise from adding the alleged rape to this article. Rather I suggest that a new article be created if one wants to posted something regardin the alleged rape.
If you read the entirety of this page,
http://www.topix.net/forum/news/jonbenet-ramsey/T6JAFL0B6GFBRE9PQ/p2
you will see that there's a spirited controversy over whether the initials S.B.T.C. stand for Subic Bay Training Center.
Can anyone add some information about this to the article, one way or the other?
I think this is written far too poetically. It gives hints of bias and seems to have been written by someone sentimental for the base. This requires a re-write so it sounds more encyclopedic. Jolb 14:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Dependents mean wifes and children of the Military personel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.7.196 ( talk) 09:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
The Military Bases Agreement of 1947 provided for a lease of 99 years, yet the U.S. was forced to leave in 1991. When was the lease shortened? Drutt ( talk) 02:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I found this interesting, but was not sure where to put (in a reduced form, not as a blockquote) in the article:
That's from this Washington Monthly article. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Found this article while reading the Philippines & Asian Report:
Olongapo City Mayor James Gordon Jr. said he was confident that a "dual economy" could exist in Subic.
Granted I understand that this falls under WP:NOTNEWS and WP:CRYSTAL, but this is something to keep an eye on. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 07:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)