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Here is the basic draft I have been working on for track and field. Certainly, there are plenty of improvements to be made and many red links to create articles for. Anyone looking to add information about road running and cross country events should add that information to either the specific articles or to the parent Athletics (sport) article. Sillyfolkboy ( talk) ( edits) Join WikiProject Athletics! 11:33, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Many of the descriptions of the events, particularly under Stadia are extremely detailed. They might follow the ideal stadium layout of the IAAF's diagram, but in reality, most facilities have some exceptions. For example, here in the United States, with the advent of Artificial turf, many throwing events have been relegated to adjacent fields, many jumping events sent to the end zones. Even without those limitations, architects frequently take liberties so the IAAF diagram is just a dream. Thusly, the article has been so overly generous with the details that it is misleading. I'll probably be editing out those details. The first detail that is particularly bothersome is the statement that a cage "removes" the danger. Sorry, you can see from my bio I am a track official. We've had spectators, competitors and fellow officials hurt or killed by flying implements. It is always dangerous to have flying heavy and sharp projectiles. I am sensitive to this. Its irresponsible of us to mislead the public to think they are safe behind a cage. You must always pay attention. Trackinfo ( talk) 05:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
If I am not mistaken, high schools are running 300 meter hurdles in lieu of the 400 meter hurdles. Plantedpotroast ( talk) 20:51, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: rough consensus opposing the move. Andrewa ( talk) 04:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Track and field →
Track and field athletics — The main name of the sport is Athletics, so it should be included in the title of the article. Outside of America, the term used is generally athletics on its own. For instance the international governing body is called the
International Association of Athletics Federations. The article for the world championship is named
IAAF World Championships in Athletics. An alternative would be something like
Athletics (track and field). --
Cjc13 (
talk) 13:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
I would like to know how the staggered lines are set on a 400 meter track for the starting od a race. If the staggering is based on the distance the runner on the outside lane has to run before getting to the cut in line, then it is unfair to the outside runner. The outside runner has to angle in to the inside lane which takes time the runner is already at the same line. If this is the case, it is only fair that the staggering of the lines include the time it takes to go from the outside lane to the inside lane at an angle. Without this adjustment, the runner(s) on each lane closer to the frst lane are given an unfair advantage.
Please email me how the staggered lines are determined. My email address is: (redacted).
The section 'Requested Move' makes for an interesting read. The impression I get from its main points is there's really no such sport as 'track and field'. The sport is (evidently) called 'athletics'. The governing body in the US simply rebranded itself (1992?), introducing the term 'track and field'. And all that's happened since, on the assumption that this must mean something, is that some have reasoned that track and field refers to events within the stadium, while (taking note of the admin responsibilities of IAAF) the term athletics is believed to cover events within and outside. But apart from speculation, nothing seems to support this distinction. In the US and the world over a single governing body administers all these activities under one roof. Most obviously at the Olympics and the World Athletics Champs no distinction is made between events inside the stadium and events outside (race walks, marathon). Essentially there's nothing called 'track and field' at either of those competitions. At the end of the day 'track and field' is just a synonym for athletics, sometimes used as if to refer to events with an athletics stadium exclusively. Basically guys, that definition is really all this article needs to consist of, it seems to me. Hakluyt bean ( talk) 02:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
The rules section needs updating to refer to the latest set of rules [1] -- Tim P ( talk) 17:41, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Large parts of the rules section appear to be copied word for word from the IAAF rule book (since it's creation and merge from Rules of track athletics). Although the rule book doesn't appear to be subject to copyright (it is not stated on the published version), it is less than ideal for us to simply copy the information. We should be summarising the points for a general audience – leave the most technical aspects for the rule book which we've given a link for. This section will need a complete rewrite at some point. SFB 15:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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On hold for 7 days pending changes. While it seems like a lot, this is actually a really short list for an article of this size and I'm glad to say that this is a well done article. If you have questions or need clarification, just ask. Looking forward to the changes! Wugapodes ( talk) 06:02, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Listed A very comprehensive article! As all of my required comments (and all but one of my optionally comments) are resolved, I'm going to list it as a GA. I think that it is well on its way to FA status and would like to commend all the editors who helped to make this article as good as it is. Thanks Sillyfolkboy for taking this on, and for all your hard work! I hope to see this at FAC one day soon. Wugapodes ( talk) 00:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
In the doping section this sentence is followed by the Citation needed tag: Doping problems have also been associated with sprinters such as Tyson Gay, Michael Rogers, and Justin Gatlin, all from the United States. Why is that? (If Michael Rogers refers to Mike Rodgers the three named sprinters are from the USA and have failed doping tests.) Fomalhaut76 ( talk) 08:41, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed if I removed the "For the video game" disambiguation at the top? I don't think anyone would type "track and field" into Wikipedia and expect to see the 1983 video game rather than the actual sport, and I think it makes our article seem a little less important to imply that. -- Habst ( talk) 01:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Athletics (track & field). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. SFB 21:45, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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Focus on this topic athletics 105.160.90.214 ( talk) 17:24, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Why Athletics called track and field event 2400:1A00:BAA0:895B:F85A:DA5:C4D1:1165 ( talk) 01:25, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
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GA from 2016. Significant uncited material including multiple unsourced sections. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 20:18, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
"The first recorded examples of organized track and field events are the [[Ancient Olympic include further running competitions, but the introduction of the Ancient Olympic pentathlon marked a step towards track and field as it is recognized today"
Something has obviously been removed, but it is not clear what.-- User:Khajidha ( talk) ( contributions) 15:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Should the introduction link out to the main page [Sport of Athletics]? SteadyJames ( talk) 19:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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1912 Olympic champion
Jim Thorpe was stripped of his
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baseball
professionally? | |||||||||||||
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Here is the basic draft I have been working on for track and field. Certainly, there are plenty of improvements to be made and many red links to create articles for. Anyone looking to add information about road running and cross country events should add that information to either the specific articles or to the parent Athletics (sport) article. Sillyfolkboy ( talk) ( edits) Join WikiProject Athletics! 11:33, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Many of the descriptions of the events, particularly under Stadia are extremely detailed. They might follow the ideal stadium layout of the IAAF's diagram, but in reality, most facilities have some exceptions. For example, here in the United States, with the advent of Artificial turf, many throwing events have been relegated to adjacent fields, many jumping events sent to the end zones. Even without those limitations, architects frequently take liberties so the IAAF diagram is just a dream. Thusly, the article has been so overly generous with the details that it is misleading. I'll probably be editing out those details. The first detail that is particularly bothersome is the statement that a cage "removes" the danger. Sorry, you can see from my bio I am a track official. We've had spectators, competitors and fellow officials hurt or killed by flying implements. It is always dangerous to have flying heavy and sharp projectiles. I am sensitive to this. Its irresponsible of us to mislead the public to think they are safe behind a cage. You must always pay attention. Trackinfo ( talk) 05:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
If I am not mistaken, high schools are running 300 meter hurdles in lieu of the 400 meter hurdles. Plantedpotroast ( talk) 20:51, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: rough consensus opposing the move. Andrewa ( talk) 04:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Track and field →
Track and field athletics — The main name of the sport is Athletics, so it should be included in the title of the article. Outside of America, the term used is generally athletics on its own. For instance the international governing body is called the
International Association of Athletics Federations. The article for the world championship is named
IAAF World Championships in Athletics. An alternative would be something like
Athletics (track and field). --
Cjc13 (
talk) 13:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
I would like to know how the staggered lines are set on a 400 meter track for the starting od a race. If the staggering is based on the distance the runner on the outside lane has to run before getting to the cut in line, then it is unfair to the outside runner. The outside runner has to angle in to the inside lane which takes time the runner is already at the same line. If this is the case, it is only fair that the staggering of the lines include the time it takes to go from the outside lane to the inside lane at an angle. Without this adjustment, the runner(s) on each lane closer to the frst lane are given an unfair advantage.
Please email me how the staggered lines are determined. My email address is: (redacted).
The section 'Requested Move' makes for an interesting read. The impression I get from its main points is there's really no such sport as 'track and field'. The sport is (evidently) called 'athletics'. The governing body in the US simply rebranded itself (1992?), introducing the term 'track and field'. And all that's happened since, on the assumption that this must mean something, is that some have reasoned that track and field refers to events within the stadium, while (taking note of the admin responsibilities of IAAF) the term athletics is believed to cover events within and outside. But apart from speculation, nothing seems to support this distinction. In the US and the world over a single governing body administers all these activities under one roof. Most obviously at the Olympics and the World Athletics Champs no distinction is made between events inside the stadium and events outside (race walks, marathon). Essentially there's nothing called 'track and field' at either of those competitions. At the end of the day 'track and field' is just a synonym for athletics, sometimes used as if to refer to events with an athletics stadium exclusively. Basically guys, that definition is really all this article needs to consist of, it seems to me. Hakluyt bean ( talk) 02:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
The rules section needs updating to refer to the latest set of rules [1] -- Tim P ( talk) 17:41, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
Large parts of the rules section appear to be copied word for word from the IAAF rule book (since it's creation and merge from Rules of track athletics). Although the rule book doesn't appear to be subject to copyright (it is not stated on the published version), it is less than ideal for us to simply copy the information. We should be summarising the points for a general audience – leave the most technical aspects for the rule book which we've given a link for. This section will need a complete rewrite at some point. SFB 15:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
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If the comment is numbered, it must be addressed for the article to pass, if it is bulleted, it's an optional suggestion or comment that you don't need to act on right now.
When I quote things, you can use ctrl+f to search the page for the specific line I quoted.
On hold for 7 days pending changes. While it seems like a lot, this is actually a really short list for an article of this size and I'm glad to say that this is a well done article. If you have questions or need clarification, just ask. Looking forward to the changes! Wugapodes ( talk) 06:02, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Listed A very comprehensive article! As all of my required comments (and all but one of my optionally comments) are resolved, I'm going to list it as a GA. I think that it is well on its way to FA status and would like to commend all the editors who helped to make this article as good as it is. Thanks Sillyfolkboy for taking this on, and for all your hard work! I hope to see this at FAC one day soon. Wugapodes ( talk) 00:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
In the doping section this sentence is followed by the Citation needed tag: Doping problems have also been associated with sprinters such as Tyson Gay, Michael Rogers, and Justin Gatlin, all from the United States. Why is that? (If Michael Rogers refers to Mike Rodgers the three named sprinters are from the USA and have failed doping tests.) Fomalhaut76 ( talk) 08:41, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed if I removed the "For the video game" disambiguation at the top? I don't think anyone would type "track and field" into Wikipedia and expect to see the 1983 video game rather than the actual sport, and I think it makes our article seem a little less important to imply that. -- Habst ( talk) 01:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Athletics (track & field). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. SFB 21:45, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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Focus on this topic athletics 105.160.90.214 ( talk) 17:24, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Why Athletics called track and field event 2400:1A00:BAA0:895B:F85A:DA5:C4D1:1165 ( talk) 01:25, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
GA from 2016. Significant uncited material including multiple unsourced sections. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 20:18, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
"The first recorded examples of organized track and field events are the [[Ancient Olympic include further running competitions, but the introduction of the Ancient Olympic pentathlon marked a step towards track and field as it is recognized today"
Something has obviously been removed, but it is not clear what.-- User:Khajidha ( talk) ( contributions) 15:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Should the introduction link out to the main page [Sport of Athletics]? SteadyJames ( talk) 19:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)