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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
AirshipJungleman29
talk 12:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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... that Bonkers exists because of the "cult" success of " Toy Town"?Source: Hodgson, Jaimie (20 July 2021). "'Why Don't We All Go Bonkers?' – The Rise and Fall of Happy Hardcore". Vice. Archived from the original on 1 February 2023. Retrieved 13 April 2024.
Created by
ResonantDistortion (
talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Resonant Distortion 19:39, 13 April 2024 (UTC).
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Unless the reader is familiar with Bonkers (and I doubt most of our readership is), the hook is not easy to understand, let alone catchy. I understand if the intention is "the hook is vague on purpose to encourage readers to click", but with the current wording it might just confuse rather than entice readers. Pinging
Launchballer for possible hook suggestions given they're familiar with music articles and hooks.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 10:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that " Toy Town" "almost destroyed" the happy hardcore scene, according to MC Magika?
ALT2: ... that the BBC Radio 1 DJ Kutski described the Hixxy and DJ Sharkey song " Toy Town" as "the definition of the UK hardcore sound"?-- Laun chba ller 11:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)- Thank you for the feedback Narutolovehinata5 and for the suggestions Launchballer. I did have a concern the initial proposed hook weas a bit too vague. I personally like Launchballers ALT1. Resonant Distortion 11:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for ALT1! I'm probably not the best person to review it as I've never heard of MC Magika before, but I don't think knowledge of the person is required to understand the hook so it's not a major issue. I've struck the other suggestions, so this can now receive a full review. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk •
contribs) 02:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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This is the oldest fully unreviewed nom (well,
Template:Did you know nominations/Environmental damage of Gaza caused by the Israel–Hamas war, but that's clearly in hand) and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. No neutrality issues found, no maintenance templates found, Earwig has no valid complaints. QPQ done. Looking at ALT1 now, I'd question whether we need to mention MC Magika by name, but I'll let a prepbuilder make that decision. New reviewer needed to approve ALT1.--
Laun
chba
ller 12:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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This has been stuck for a while, so I'm proposing an alternative ALT1 wording for consideration, although ALT1 itself is also fine:
- ALT1a: ... that " Toy Town" was said to have "almost destroyed" the happy hardcore scene?
- The thing about ALT1/ALT1a is that the reference for the "almost destroyed" statement comes in a subsequent sentence, when the guidelines say it has to be at the end of the relevant sentence. This will be approved once that's sorted out.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 01:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Narutolovehinata5 - I have just moved the reference within the article - which should resolve the issue? Resonant Distortion 22:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks. This should be good to go: I will leave it to the promoter to decide between ALT1 and ALT1a, although my reservations about the relevance of MC Magika's mention remains.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 11:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
AirshipJungleman29
talk 12:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
( )
... that Bonkers exists because of the "cult" success of " Toy Town"?Source: Hodgson, Jaimie (20 July 2021). "'Why Don't We All Go Bonkers?' – The Rise and Fall of Happy Hardcore". Vice. Archived from the original on 1 February 2023. Retrieved 13 April 2024.
Created by
ResonantDistortion (
talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Resonant Distortion 19:39, 13 April 2024 (UTC).
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Unless the reader is familiar with Bonkers (and I doubt most of our readership is), the hook is not easy to understand, let alone catchy. I understand if the intention is "the hook is vague on purpose to encourage readers to click", but with the current wording it might just confuse rather than entice readers. Pinging
Launchballer for possible hook suggestions given they're familiar with music articles and hooks.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 10:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that " Toy Town" "almost destroyed" the happy hardcore scene, according to MC Magika?
ALT2: ... that the BBC Radio 1 DJ Kutski described the Hixxy and DJ Sharkey song " Toy Town" as "the definition of the UK hardcore sound"?-- Laun chba ller 11:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)- Thank you for the feedback Narutolovehinata5 and for the suggestions Launchballer. I did have a concern the initial proposed hook weas a bit too vague. I personally like Launchballers ALT1. Resonant Distortion 11:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks for ALT1! I'm probably not the best person to review it as I've never heard of MC Magika before, but I don't think knowledge of the person is required to understand the hook so it's not a major issue. I've struck the other suggestions, so this can now receive a full review. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk •
contribs) 02:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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This is the oldest fully unreviewed nom (well,
Template:Did you know nominations/Environmental damage of Gaza caused by the Israel–Hamas war, but that's clearly in hand) and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. No neutrality issues found, no maintenance templates found, Earwig has no valid complaints. QPQ done. Looking at ALT1 now, I'd question whether we need to mention MC Magika by name, but I'll let a prepbuilder make that decision. New reviewer needed to approve ALT1.--
Laun
chba
ller 12:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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This has been stuck for a while, so I'm proposing an alternative ALT1 wording for consideration, although ALT1 itself is also fine:
- ALT1a: ... that " Toy Town" was said to have "almost destroyed" the happy hardcore scene?
- The thing about ALT1/ALT1a is that the reference for the "almost destroyed" statement comes in a subsequent sentence, when the guidelines say it has to be at the end of the relevant sentence. This will be approved once that's sorted out.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 01:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Narutolovehinata5 - I have just moved the reference within the article - which should resolve the issue? Resonant Distortion 22:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks. This should be good to go: I will leave it to the promoter to decide between ALT1 and ALT1a, although my reservations about the relevance of MC Magika's mention remains.
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 11:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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