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I've got a chart from Tonkawa Texts, by Harry Hoijer, which shows the Tonkawa Phonemes. I think the charts currently in this article are gleaned from the resources at Rosetta Project, which I have looked at. Here is the chart, using the orthography that Hoijer used:
Bilabial | Dental | Palatal | Labiopalatal | Glottal | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Plosive | p | t | k | kʷ | ʔ |
Affricate | c | ||||
Fricative | s | x | xʷ | h | |
Nasal | m | n | |||
Lateral | l | ||||
Approximant | w | y |
Front | Central | Back | |
---|---|---|---|
Close | i: | u, u: | |
Near-close | i | ||
Close-mid | e: | o: | |
Open-mid | e | o | |
Open | a, a: |
If no one has any objection to this, I'll go ahead and put it on the article sometime...
By the way, these are the phonemes of Tonkawa, and thus are not just a representation of the language's phonemes in a certain orthography. Please note that I didn't use the IPA here, but Hoijer's orthography for Tonkawa. If you have any objections, let me know!
In response to Ish ishwar above: Yeah, I used Mithun for the phoneme chart. As I see it, the two best options would be either to (a) leave the current tables up and describe Hojier's orthography and it's foundations in the phonemes of Tonkawa elsewhere in the article (the article right now has about two sentences on this), or (b) replace the table with Hojier's and make sure the allophonic changes and IPA representations are mentioned in the accompanying text. In theory, it shouldn't really matter which we do. I myself don't have a preference. Take care -- Whimemsz 03:29, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Front | Central | Back | |
---|---|---|---|
Close | iː | u, uː | |
Near-close | ɪ | ||
Close-mid | eː | oː | |
Open-mid | ε | ɔ | |
Open | a, aː |
According to Ethnologue, Tonkawa belongs to a language family named "Coahuiltecan", which happens to sounds very much like " Coahuilteco", another dead and isolated native American language from Texas. Are those two related or not? — N-true 00:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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The names "Dative (Arrival)" and "Dative (Approach)" sound like they mean lative and allative to me, rather than dative (which I believe implies giving or benefit). I don't really know anything about this language, though. I also don't know whether simply replacing the terms without explanation would be an improvement to understandability. 2600:1700:8C10:8770:D47E:E1A6:63B9:343A ( talk) 05:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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I've got a chart from Tonkawa Texts, by Harry Hoijer, which shows the Tonkawa Phonemes. I think the charts currently in this article are gleaned from the resources at Rosetta Project, which I have looked at. Here is the chart, using the orthography that Hoijer used:
Bilabial | Dental | Palatal | Labiopalatal | Glottal | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Plosive | p | t | k | kʷ | ʔ |
Affricate | c | ||||
Fricative | s | x | xʷ | h | |
Nasal | m | n | |||
Lateral | l | ||||
Approximant | w | y |
Front | Central | Back | |
---|---|---|---|
Close | i: | u, u: | |
Near-close | i | ||
Close-mid | e: | o: | |
Open-mid | e | o | |
Open | a, a: |
If no one has any objection to this, I'll go ahead and put it on the article sometime...
By the way, these are the phonemes of Tonkawa, and thus are not just a representation of the language's phonemes in a certain orthography. Please note that I didn't use the IPA here, but Hoijer's orthography for Tonkawa. If you have any objections, let me know!
In response to Ish ishwar above: Yeah, I used Mithun for the phoneme chart. As I see it, the two best options would be either to (a) leave the current tables up and describe Hojier's orthography and it's foundations in the phonemes of Tonkawa elsewhere in the article (the article right now has about two sentences on this), or (b) replace the table with Hojier's and make sure the allophonic changes and IPA representations are mentioned in the accompanying text. In theory, it shouldn't really matter which we do. I myself don't have a preference. Take care -- Whimemsz 03:29, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Front | Central | Back | |
---|---|---|---|
Close | iː | u, uː | |
Near-close | ɪ | ||
Close-mid | eː | oː | |
Open-mid | ε | ɔ | |
Open | a, aː |
According to Ethnologue, Tonkawa belongs to a language family named "Coahuiltecan", which happens to sounds very much like " Coahuilteco", another dead and isolated native American language from Texas. Are those two related or not? — N-true 00:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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The names "Dative (Arrival)" and "Dative (Approach)" sound like they mean lative and allative to me, rather than dative (which I believe implies giving or benefit). I don't really know anything about this language, though. I also don't know whether simply replacing the terms without explanation would be an improvement to understandability. 2600:1700:8C10:8770:D47E:E1A6:63B9:343A ( talk) 05:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)