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This article claims that the 11 time zones Russia has are more than any other country in the world. However, the article on time zones claims that France also has 11 time zones. So I'd think that one of the two must be wrong. Depending on whether France really has 11 time zones (which I doubt, counting I only find 10 but that's for the time zone talk page), one of the 2 articles should be adjusted imo. Skysmurf ( talk) 03:45, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Update: according to Time zones by country France actually has 12 time zones, which contradicts this article as well as Time zone. Skysmurf ( talk) 03:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Additionally, I have edited time zone to reflect this change and if desired I can create the article "Time in France", which doesn't exist yet. Skysmurf ( talk) 16:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
May I suggest the following: in the introduction we change "there are 11 time zones in Russia" to "there are 11 contiguous (italics used only here on the talk page!) time zones in Russia" and in the footnote we add "but not all of those are contiguous". I think this would be accurate as well as anti-cheap-taboid :-) Skysmurf ( talk) 17:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I'll give it a few days, then I'll make the change if nobody objects. Skysmurf ( talk) 00:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
For an encyclopedia is would be nicer to show the tz based zones on a map too. Maybe in lighter color. TimeCurrency ( talk) 04:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
The article must be updated to reflect the new time zones as the first map in the article suggests. A.h. king • Talk to me! 09:31, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
This whole thing is a mess. Someone does not understand what UTC is. UTC is the old GMT or Greenwich Mean Time, which is the time we (in Europe at least), use in the winter. On the last Saturday in March in Europe, the clocks go forward by one hour. Given that Moscow, for example, is three hours ahead of London at ALL times of the year, all the UTC figures quoted are completely incorrect. As an example, Kaliningrad is currently (1st April 2010 - and this is no joke - time is not a matter to joke about) UTC+3 and Moscow is UTC+4. A simple check with Google will confirm this! Garstonboy ( talk) 18:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
That's what I said! UTC is the old GMT or Greenwich Mean Time old in this case meaning former. Anyway, the whole thing is still confusing, because European Russia (ie the area west of the Urals) does conform to daylight saving time, and this should be made clear. Garstonboy ( talk) 22:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
There is a discussion about navbox design, its appearance and colors. Incnis Mrsi ( talk) 21:25, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Category:Time_in_Russia now has stubs for the 16 tz database zones located in Russia. These zones are also listed at Time in Russia.
Template:RussiaTimeZone could maybe make use of the utc offsets stored in Template:Time zone/utc offset.
DST offsets would theoretically need to be added, but since Russia stops DST, simply something like
|[[kaliningrad oblast]]=[[Kaliningrad Time|USZ1/USZ1S]] ([[UTC+2]]/+3) replace with |[[kaliningrad oblast]]=Europe/Kaliningrad can be done and the templates using Template:RussiaTimeZone be adjusted. Or a new in-between template is created to deliver content for display, i.e. one for mapping divisions to tz zones and one for display.
Additionally would be nice if more references could be added to the stubs. Time in Russia ( talk) 17:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
All articles about time zones were fitted with such remark, most still contain this disinformation. If this were true, then clocks in Moscow would show MSK+01, i.e. UTC+04. But indeed, there is UTC+03 in Moscow still. Actually, the so named decree time was merely an episode of moving MSK from UTC+02 to UTC+03 only of historical interest, because was subsequently overridden by moving time zone boundaries eastward in 1990s, i.e. many regions switched one hour back. This was not resulted in a permanent time keeping system atop of the standard time as Summer Time was. I think that references to it must be purged from all time zone articles, except the history section in Moscow Time.
This came in mid-2009 apparently as a translation from no.wiki; they also should be alerted. Incnis Mrsi ( talk) 07:43, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Two zones cover area that did not observe the same rule set since 1970, all now using Omsk Time:
Questions: Was it really May 1, 2002? The articles mentions 17 April. When did Omsk Oblast change? Time in Russia ( talk) 12:55, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
What should we call the time zone four hours ahead of Moscow now (i.e. UTC+08, covering only Buryatia)? Ulan-Ude Time? Does Buryatia even observe UTC+09, or did it remain on UTC+08 like the Yakutsk Oblast? ZanderSchubert ( talk) 09:13, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
The article will need a big update: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-28423647 94.113.74.24 ( talk) 09:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
The Russians have decided to create a time zone for a few thousand people in the north east that we are calling "Srednekolymsk Time", named after Srednekolymsk (the largest village in the area). This name appears to have been first introduced on Wikipedia by User:YLSS here.
I have looked online and I have been able to get an abbreviation out of the Tz database - see [2]; in their system it is "Asia/Srednekolymsk". But I've yet to see evidence that "Srednekolymsk Time" is the standard name. Is it possible to find a cite for this please? Thanks, Kahastok talk 11:51, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
{{
Часовые пояса России}}
, and after googling "SRET" I found
this, so I labelled it like that at en.wp. FYI, at ru.wp the article on
Magadan Time has now been renamed to
ru:Среднеколымское время (but I'm not sure if that was the right thing to do).# From Tim Parenti (2014-07-06), per Alexander Krivenyshev (2014-07-02): # Magadan Oblast is moving from UTC+12 to UTC+10 on 2014-10-26; however, # several districts of Sakha Republic as well as Severo-Kurilsky District of # the Sakhalin Oblast (also known as the North Kuril Islands), represented # until now by Asia/Magadan, will instead move to UTC+11. These regions will # need their own zone. # From Tim Parenti (2014-07-06): # Asia/Srednekolymsk covers parts of (14, RU-SA) Sakha (Yakutia) Republic: # 14-01 **** Abyysky District # 14-03 **** Allaikhovsky District # 14-08 **** Verkhnekolymsky District # 14-17 **** Momsky District # 14-20 **** Nizhnekolymsky District # 14-25 **** Srednekolymsky District # # ...and parts of (65, RU-SAK) Sakhalin Oblast: # 65-11 **** Severo-Kurilsky District (North Kuril Islands) # From Tim Parenti (2014-07-02): # Oymyakonsky District of Sakha Republic (represented by Ust-Nera), along with # most of Sakhalin Oblast (represented by Sakhalin) will be moving to UTC+10 on # 2014-10-26 to stay aligned with VLAT/SAKT; however, Severo-Kurilsky District # of the Sakhalin Oblast (also known as the North Kuril Islands, represented by # Severo-Kurilsk) will remain on UTC+11.
etc
# Srednekolymsk and Zyryanka are the most populous places amongst these # districts, but have very similar populations.
etc
# Go with Srednekolymsk. # # Since Magadan Oblast moves to UTC+10 on 2014-10-26, we cannot keep using MAGT # as the abbreviation. Use SRET instead. Zone Asia/Srednekolymsk 10:14:52 - LMT 1924 May 2 10:00 - MAGT 1930 Jun 21 # Magadan Time 11:00 Russia MAG%sT 1991 Mar 31 2:00s 10:00 Russia MAG%sT 1992 Jan 19 2:00s 11:00 Russia MAG%sT 2011 Mar 27 2:00s 12:00 - MAGT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 11:00 - SRET # Srednekolymsk Time
Summary: The zone is called Asia/Srednekolymsk, had Magadan time (MAGT) before 2014 Oct 26 and Srednekolymsk Time (SRET) from that date. -- BIL ( talk) 13:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
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Yes. De facto in Crimea act accordingly Russian time, but spamming article with maps with Crimea as part of Russia are mainly a part of the project of Russians and their yes-men to justify and to normalize Crimea as a part of Russia. Internationally and officially this annexation isn't accepted. This same applies with time zones.-- Smörre ( talk) 20:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
It seems that most of the Russian time zone abbreviations like SAMT (Samara Time) or YEKT (Yekaterinburg Time) were invented by the contributors of the tz database (these were since replaced by numerical abbreviations in recent versions except for EET/EEST -Kaliningrad- and MSK/MSD -Moscow-). Elandy2009 ( talk) 18:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Just so that everyone can be prepared to update the page when the change does happen. 108.160.125.102 ( talk) 07:19, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I updated the page. ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich Talk 01:21, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
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✉ 16:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
This article claims that the 11 time zones Russia has are more than any other country in the world. However, the article on time zones claims that France also has 11 time zones. So I'd think that one of the two must be wrong. Depending on whether France really has 11 time zones (which I doubt, counting I only find 10 but that's for the time zone talk page), one of the 2 articles should be adjusted imo. Skysmurf ( talk) 03:45, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Update: according to Time zones by country France actually has 12 time zones, which contradicts this article as well as Time zone. Skysmurf ( talk) 03:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Additionally, I have edited time zone to reflect this change and if desired I can create the article "Time in France", which doesn't exist yet. Skysmurf ( talk) 16:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
May I suggest the following: in the introduction we change "there are 11 time zones in Russia" to "there are 11 contiguous (italics used only here on the talk page!) time zones in Russia" and in the footnote we add "but not all of those are contiguous". I think this would be accurate as well as anti-cheap-taboid :-) Skysmurf ( talk) 17:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I'll give it a few days, then I'll make the change if nobody objects. Skysmurf ( talk) 00:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
For an encyclopedia is would be nicer to show the tz based zones on a map too. Maybe in lighter color. TimeCurrency ( talk) 04:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
The article must be updated to reflect the new time zones as the first map in the article suggests. A.h. king • Talk to me! 09:31, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
This whole thing is a mess. Someone does not understand what UTC is. UTC is the old GMT or Greenwich Mean Time, which is the time we (in Europe at least), use in the winter. On the last Saturday in March in Europe, the clocks go forward by one hour. Given that Moscow, for example, is three hours ahead of London at ALL times of the year, all the UTC figures quoted are completely incorrect. As an example, Kaliningrad is currently (1st April 2010 - and this is no joke - time is not a matter to joke about) UTC+3 and Moscow is UTC+4. A simple check with Google will confirm this! Garstonboy ( talk) 18:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
That's what I said! UTC is the old GMT or Greenwich Mean Time old in this case meaning former. Anyway, the whole thing is still confusing, because European Russia (ie the area west of the Urals) does conform to daylight saving time, and this should be made clear. Garstonboy ( talk) 22:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
There is a discussion about navbox design, its appearance and colors. Incnis Mrsi ( talk) 21:25, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Category:Time_in_Russia now has stubs for the 16 tz database zones located in Russia. These zones are also listed at Time in Russia.
Template:RussiaTimeZone could maybe make use of the utc offsets stored in Template:Time zone/utc offset.
DST offsets would theoretically need to be added, but since Russia stops DST, simply something like
|[[kaliningrad oblast]]=[[Kaliningrad Time|USZ1/USZ1S]] ([[UTC+2]]/+3) replace with |[[kaliningrad oblast]]=Europe/Kaliningrad can be done and the templates using Template:RussiaTimeZone be adjusted. Or a new in-between template is created to deliver content for display, i.e. one for mapping divisions to tz zones and one for display.
Additionally would be nice if more references could be added to the stubs. Time in Russia ( talk) 17:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
All articles about time zones were fitted with such remark, most still contain this disinformation. If this were true, then clocks in Moscow would show MSK+01, i.e. UTC+04. But indeed, there is UTC+03 in Moscow still. Actually, the so named decree time was merely an episode of moving MSK from UTC+02 to UTC+03 only of historical interest, because was subsequently overridden by moving time zone boundaries eastward in 1990s, i.e. many regions switched one hour back. This was not resulted in a permanent time keeping system atop of the standard time as Summer Time was. I think that references to it must be purged from all time zone articles, except the history section in Moscow Time.
This came in mid-2009 apparently as a translation from no.wiki; they also should be alerted. Incnis Mrsi ( talk) 07:43, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Two zones cover area that did not observe the same rule set since 1970, all now using Omsk Time:
Questions: Was it really May 1, 2002? The articles mentions 17 April. When did Omsk Oblast change? Time in Russia ( talk) 12:55, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
What should we call the time zone four hours ahead of Moscow now (i.e. UTC+08, covering only Buryatia)? Ulan-Ude Time? Does Buryatia even observe UTC+09, or did it remain on UTC+08 like the Yakutsk Oblast? ZanderSchubert ( talk) 09:13, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
The article will need a big update: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-28423647 94.113.74.24 ( talk) 09:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
The Russians have decided to create a time zone for a few thousand people in the north east that we are calling "Srednekolymsk Time", named after Srednekolymsk (the largest village in the area). This name appears to have been first introduced on Wikipedia by User:YLSS here.
I have looked online and I have been able to get an abbreviation out of the Tz database - see [2]; in their system it is "Asia/Srednekolymsk". But I've yet to see evidence that "Srednekolymsk Time" is the standard name. Is it possible to find a cite for this please? Thanks, Kahastok talk 11:51, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
{{
Часовые пояса России}}
, and after googling "SRET" I found
this, so I labelled it like that at en.wp. FYI, at ru.wp the article on
Magadan Time has now been renamed to
ru:Среднеколымское время (but I'm not sure if that was the right thing to do).# From Tim Parenti (2014-07-06), per Alexander Krivenyshev (2014-07-02): # Magadan Oblast is moving from UTC+12 to UTC+10 on 2014-10-26; however, # several districts of Sakha Republic as well as Severo-Kurilsky District of # the Sakhalin Oblast (also known as the North Kuril Islands), represented # until now by Asia/Magadan, will instead move to UTC+11. These regions will # need their own zone. # From Tim Parenti (2014-07-06): # Asia/Srednekolymsk covers parts of (14, RU-SA) Sakha (Yakutia) Republic: # 14-01 **** Abyysky District # 14-03 **** Allaikhovsky District # 14-08 **** Verkhnekolymsky District # 14-17 **** Momsky District # 14-20 **** Nizhnekolymsky District # 14-25 **** Srednekolymsky District # # ...and parts of (65, RU-SAK) Sakhalin Oblast: # 65-11 **** Severo-Kurilsky District (North Kuril Islands) # From Tim Parenti (2014-07-02): # Oymyakonsky District of Sakha Republic (represented by Ust-Nera), along with # most of Sakhalin Oblast (represented by Sakhalin) will be moving to UTC+10 on # 2014-10-26 to stay aligned with VLAT/SAKT; however, Severo-Kurilsky District # of the Sakhalin Oblast (also known as the North Kuril Islands, represented by # Severo-Kurilsk) will remain on UTC+11.
etc
# Srednekolymsk and Zyryanka are the most populous places amongst these # districts, but have very similar populations.
etc
# Go with Srednekolymsk. # # Since Magadan Oblast moves to UTC+10 on 2014-10-26, we cannot keep using MAGT # as the abbreviation. Use SRET instead. Zone Asia/Srednekolymsk 10:14:52 - LMT 1924 May 2 10:00 - MAGT 1930 Jun 21 # Magadan Time 11:00 Russia MAG%sT 1991 Mar 31 2:00s 10:00 Russia MAG%sT 1992 Jan 19 2:00s 11:00 Russia MAG%sT 2011 Mar 27 2:00s 12:00 - MAGT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 11:00 - SRET # Srednekolymsk Time
Summary: The zone is called Asia/Srednekolymsk, had Magadan time (MAGT) before 2014 Oct 26 and Srednekolymsk Time (SRET) from that date. -- BIL ( talk) 13:09, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
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Yes. De facto in Crimea act accordingly Russian time, but spamming article with maps with Crimea as part of Russia are mainly a part of the project of Russians and their yes-men to justify and to normalize Crimea as a part of Russia. Internationally and officially this annexation isn't accepted. This same applies with time zones.-- Smörre ( talk) 20:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
It seems that most of the Russian time zone abbreviations like SAMT (Samara Time) or YEKT (Yekaterinburg Time) were invented by the contributors of the tz database (these were since replaced by numerical abbreviations in recent versions except for EET/EEST -Kaliningrad- and MSK/MSD -Moscow-). Elandy2009 ( talk) 18:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Just so that everyone can be prepared to update the page when the change does happen. 108.160.125.102 ( talk) 07:19, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I updated the page. ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich Talk 01:21, 28 October 2018 (UTC)