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The traditional English folk song has its own article. Does the stuff from this article about the historical personages and scientific theory belong here in the opera article, or in the song article? -- Ssilvers 16:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's a bit of a mess, actually. This article, The Vicar of Bray, is not solely about the opera, but about the opera, the song, and a theory of evolution. The song article, The Vicar of Bray (song), is mainly just the text of the song plus annotations. I haven't really figured out what to do about it. Marc Shepherd 16:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've sort of co-opted the article to be about the opera, now, and I suggest that most of the stuff about the song be moved to the song's article. Not sure what to do about the historical people section and the scientific theory section. The song's article needs a good reference to the opera, especially if they are going to share any of the historical stuff. I'll let you think about it and advise me of your opinion. -- Ssilvers 17:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- The problem is that the song is far more well known. The opera and film are each different. The original vicar seems to have been earlier than all three. I have turned the article around a bit. -- Henrygb 22:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I created a separate article about the opera at The Vicar of Bray (opera). -- Ssilvers 02:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
When, where, under what title? - Jmabel | Talk 20:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
1937. See The Vicar of Bray at IMDb -- Ssilvers 21:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
This article doesn't cite any references. When was the song written? When did the song appear in print? A search using Google books finds the song in "The London Magazine, Or, Gentleman's Monthly Intelligencer" published in 1732 - but (frustratingly) only extracts of the book are available online (scanned from a copy at the Uni of Michigan). 155.198.213.89 ( talk) 11:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- You might want to discuss this on the talk page for The Vicar of Bray (song), which is the article about the song. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 14:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Orwell has it in his diaries and I think Tribune somwehere to say a good word for the Vicar of Bray. I am going from memory but Orwell says it is like planting a walnut, you plant it for your granchildren, and who gives a * about their grandchildren? Really it was a eulogy for Eileen Blair who I think he missed more than he said. About 1944 in the Collected Essays edited by Ian Angus and Sonia Brownell later Sonia Orwell. Orwell might be pleased to know, if he is up there who knows, that I have taken his advice on how to plant An English Rose preferably from Woolworth's at sixpence to the dozen, and I actually lived quite close to Orwell's home in Nortjh Hertfordshire. His cottage "the stores" there does not look so nice now I don't think the owners realised that is where Orwelll lived for about 1936-1939. In Wallington, Hertforshire. Si Trew ( talk) 09:36, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
You quote 'Golden Time'. Probably an alternative version. But 'Golden Days' is the one the world knows. Valetude ( talk) 00:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
The inclusion of Edmund Waller as a possible subject requires some discussion, as he was not a clergyman. FreddieRainbow ( talk) 04:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
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The traditional English folk song has its own article. Does the stuff from this article about the historical personages and scientific theory belong here in the opera article, or in the song article? -- Ssilvers 16:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's a bit of a mess, actually. This article, The Vicar of Bray, is not solely about the opera, but about the opera, the song, and a theory of evolution. The song article, The Vicar of Bray (song), is mainly just the text of the song plus annotations. I haven't really figured out what to do about it. Marc Shepherd 16:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've sort of co-opted the article to be about the opera, now, and I suggest that most of the stuff about the song be moved to the song's article. Not sure what to do about the historical people section and the scientific theory section. The song's article needs a good reference to the opera, especially if they are going to share any of the historical stuff. I'll let you think about it and advise me of your opinion. -- Ssilvers 17:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- The problem is that the song is far more well known. The opera and film are each different. The original vicar seems to have been earlier than all three. I have turned the article around a bit. -- Henrygb 22:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I created a separate article about the opera at The Vicar of Bray (opera). -- Ssilvers 02:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
When, where, under what title? - Jmabel | Talk 20:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
1937. See The Vicar of Bray at IMDb -- Ssilvers 21:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
This article doesn't cite any references. When was the song written? When did the song appear in print? A search using Google books finds the song in "The London Magazine, Or, Gentleman's Monthly Intelligencer" published in 1732 - but (frustratingly) only extracts of the book are available online (scanned from a copy at the Uni of Michigan). 155.198.213.89 ( talk) 11:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- You might want to discuss this on the talk page for The Vicar of Bray (song), which is the article about the song. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 14:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Orwell has it in his diaries and I think Tribune somwehere to say a good word for the Vicar of Bray. I am going from memory but Orwell says it is like planting a walnut, you plant it for your granchildren, and who gives a * about their grandchildren? Really it was a eulogy for Eileen Blair who I think he missed more than he said. About 1944 in the Collected Essays edited by Ian Angus and Sonia Brownell later Sonia Orwell. Orwell might be pleased to know, if he is up there who knows, that I have taken his advice on how to plant An English Rose preferably from Woolworth's at sixpence to the dozen, and I actually lived quite close to Orwell's home in Nortjh Hertfordshire. His cottage "the stores" there does not look so nice now I don't think the owners realised that is where Orwelll lived for about 1936-1939. In Wallington, Hertforshire. Si Trew ( talk) 09:36, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
You quote 'Golden Time'. Probably an alternative version. But 'Golden Days' is the one the world knows. Valetude ( talk) 00:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
The inclusion of Edmund Waller as a possible subject requires some discussion, as he was not a clergyman. FreddieRainbow ( talk) 04:30, 1 December 2022 (UTC)