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Just transferred this article from my sandbox to this namespace, been working on it for about a week. Dmoon1 08:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure I buy the notion that this was one of the first books (historical biographies) told from the point of view of a slave, if it was published in the 1970s. Am I misunderstanding the claim? Sherurcij ( Speaker for the Dead) 03:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The second sentence claims it is a historiography, i.e. a book about how history is written. I am sure it has elements of this, most histories do, but if it largely uses slave narratives then it is just a history.-- SabreBD ( talk) 00:21, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I think this article creates a straw man in its description of what people believed before this book was written. It refers to previous scholarship that suggests African American slaves were docile and submissive "Sambos" who enjoyed the benefits of a paternalistic master-slave relationship on southern plantations. I don't doubt that such scholarship existed, but it is presented here as if this was the mainstream view of slavery until the book was published. Has no one heard of abolitionism?
I think the text that accompanies a later picture puts a similar point but without such overblown claims. It says Blassingame argues that the loyal and devoted slave was not as common as historians previously believed.
Yaris678 ( talk) 08:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I am not objecting to the idea that the book contradicted many earlier histories. I am objecting to the idea that these earlier histories formed an orthodoxy, as is necessary for the book to be considered as revisionism. To be fair I should probably have quoted the full sentence: The Slave Community is a revisionist study challenging previous scholarship that suggests African American slaves were docile and submissive "Sambos" who enjoyed the benefits of a paternalistic master-slave relationship on southern plantations. But even without the claim to revisionism, the sentence still could be read to imply that these previous histories were the orthodoxy. As far as I can see, we should make two claims for the value of this book:
Yaris678 ( talk) 11:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
"there were a variety of personality types exhibited by slaves other than the Sambo."
that phrase was pointless and offensive, i took out 'other than the sambo', and i think it reads just as well and has lost no information nor meaning. Decora ( talk) 13:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Article claims that prior to 1972, the "testimony of the enslaved" was ignored. See http://www.memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/voices/vfssp.html which details the recordings made by the Library of Congress well before that year. John Paul Parks ( talk) 04:57, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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Just transferred this article from my sandbox to this namespace, been working on it for about a week. Dmoon1 08:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure I buy the notion that this was one of the first books (historical biographies) told from the point of view of a slave, if it was published in the 1970s. Am I misunderstanding the claim? Sherurcij ( Speaker for the Dead) 03:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The second sentence claims it is a historiography, i.e. a book about how history is written. I am sure it has elements of this, most histories do, but if it largely uses slave narratives then it is just a history.-- SabreBD ( talk) 00:21, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I think this article creates a straw man in its description of what people believed before this book was written. It refers to previous scholarship that suggests African American slaves were docile and submissive "Sambos" who enjoyed the benefits of a paternalistic master-slave relationship on southern plantations. I don't doubt that such scholarship existed, but it is presented here as if this was the mainstream view of slavery until the book was published. Has no one heard of abolitionism?
I think the text that accompanies a later picture puts a similar point but without such overblown claims. It says Blassingame argues that the loyal and devoted slave was not as common as historians previously believed.
Yaris678 ( talk) 08:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I am not objecting to the idea that the book contradicted many earlier histories. I am objecting to the idea that these earlier histories formed an orthodoxy, as is necessary for the book to be considered as revisionism. To be fair I should probably have quoted the full sentence: The Slave Community is a revisionist study challenging previous scholarship that suggests African American slaves were docile and submissive "Sambos" who enjoyed the benefits of a paternalistic master-slave relationship on southern plantations. But even without the claim to revisionism, the sentence still could be read to imply that these previous histories were the orthodoxy. As far as I can see, we should make two claims for the value of this book:
Yaris678 ( talk) 11:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
"there were a variety of personality types exhibited by slaves other than the Sambo."
that phrase was pointless and offensive, i took out 'other than the sambo', and i think it reads just as well and has lost no information nor meaning. Decora ( talk) 13:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Article claims that prior to 1972, the "testimony of the enslaved" was ignored. See http://www.memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/voices/vfssp.html which details the recordings made by the Library of Congress well before that year. John Paul Parks ( talk) 04:57, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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