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Love this song; it's going to be my pleasure to review for the backlog! --
K. Peake 07:56, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Good tatse!
And thank you so much, I start fixing the issues now.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 13:26, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Infobox and lead
Shouldn't the languages be separated in the infobox using bullet points instead of hlist?
1997 recording date is not sourced in the body; it is only said that he was contacted by FIFA to record that year
Add the Spanish title in brackets in the lead instead at the same point (
Spanish: "La Copa de la Vida")
You should add a sentence directly after the first one saying that "Martin created the song after
FIFA requested him an
anthem." with the pipe
"
Desmond Child and American musician
Draco Rosa, and its production was handled by Desmond Child and Rosa." → "
Desmond Child, and
Draco Rosa, while the production was handled by the latter two." plus introductions to the songwriters are not needed since they are provided in the body
Remove pipe on official song
"with full positive lyrics." → "with fully positive lyrics."
Mention what the critics praised after stating the song has received widely positive reviews, also split the rankings info into a separate sentence about how "The Cup of Life" has been ranked as one of the best World Cup anthems of all-time by multiple publications, mentioning ones that this is including
"hitting the charts in" → "appearing on the charts in" for correct lead language
Add a sentence afterwards about the platinum certifications in both Australia and France, as these are notable for the lead
Remove introduction to Wayne Isham because that being in the body is sufficient
"and filmed in a" → "and filmed during a"
"Martin performed it on" → "Martin performed it for"
"and met with acclaim from music critics." → "and received acclaim from critics."
The Bush inaugural performance should be the sentence after the Grammys performance
"It's known as" → "The song has become known as" to be clear you are not referring to the performance
"that ushered the" → "being credited as ushering in the"
"Multiple artists and contestants on various music talent shows have recorded their own cover version of the song." → "Multiple artists contestants on various music talent shows have covered the song, including
Carlito Olivero and
Alondra Santos."
@
Kyle Peake: Done. Except the one that you said "to be clear you are not referring to the performance". I exactly meant the performance ushered the "Latin explosion" per
The Cup of Life#Legacy and influence. And that's why I wrote the Bush inaugural performance sentence after this.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 13:59, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Background and release
Remove comma before A Medio Vivir
"in 1997 and was recording his fourth studio album, Vuelve at the same time," → "and recording Vuelve in 1997,"
Use the full 1998 FIFA World Cup identification
"Martin wrote about it in" → "Martin wrote about the request in"
"So K. C. Porter, Robi Rosa and Desmond Child" → "Following his acceptance, K. C. Porter, Robi Rosa, and Desmond Child"
"about the recording in his book:" → "about the recording in Me:"
"on March 9, 1998 in" → "on March 9, 1998, in" but the Columbia label and several countries parts are not sourced
@
Kyle Peake: I added a reference for Columbia label, but unfortunately for "several countries", I couldn't find anything better. El Tiempo mentions that "Vuelve" was the lead single and according to Billboard, "La Copa de la Vida" was the lead single in Europe and Asia. So, as far as I know and I could find data, "La Copa de la Vida" was the second single in the United States and Latin America. (After "Vuelve" which was the lead single there.)
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 14:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Remove the "in several countries" part without replacing it, but the rest of the sentence is fine now. --
K. Peake 18:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Mention the release date of the Sony Music Asia CD and add in European release(s) and possibly more Asian ones
@
Kyle Peake: Sorry again, there's no data about the release date of the CD. At least I couldn't find. I only found that Billboard aticle, nothing else.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 14:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
There are quite a few with their track listings wrote out; can't you add some here? --
K. Peake 18:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: I checked them, but it was only release year, they didn't mention the exact release date. Tell me if I'm wrong.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 07:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"American songwriter
Desmond Child and American musician
Draco Rosa, and its production was handled by" →"American songwriter
Desmond Child, and American musician
Draco Rosa, with its production being handled by"
"The song runs for a" → ""La Copa de la Vida" runs for a"
"describes "La Copa de la Vida" as a" → "described it as a" plus mention the name of the Billboard author
"and throughout the song, Martin carries" → "Throughout the song, Martin carries" since this should be a new sentence to avoid a run-on
1999 Latin Billboard Music Awards should italicise Billboard
Mention notable ones of the all-time rankings from the table in prose too, i.e. a few of the high rankings; this needs to be done since you've mention the song being ranked among lists in the lead
All-time lists should not be a sub-section when the table already has its caption
hashtags should be replaced with N/A for the unranked lists
Remove pipe on the second Billboard ranking
Remezcla should not be italicised
Commercial performance
"the single hit the charts" → "the track hit the charts"
"the charts of 25 countries," → "the charts of 25," to be less repetitive
"making it one of Martin's most successful songs." → "making it one of the most successful World Cup songs." per the source
The double A-side single should be mentioned in background and release instead, but keep AU position here
"spent six weeks at number one in the country." → "spent six weeks at number one on the
ARIA Singles Chart." with the pipe
The part about topping the year-end chart is basically the best-selling song stat repeated
"of over 70,000 copies." → "of over 70,000 copies in the country."
"It also peaked in the top 5 of Austria," → "The song also peaked within the top five in Austria," per
MOS:NUM
"becoming his second number one hit in the country," → "where it became Martin's second number one hit,"
"of over 500,000 copies." → "of over 500,000 copies in the country."
"It also spent" → "The song also spent"
"and was a number one hit in" → "and was also a number one hit in"
"Netherlands,[74] and Norway." → "the Netherlands,[74] and Norway."
"his 11th top 20." → "his 11th top 20 release on the chart."
"held off the" → "being held off the"
Add release year of "No Sé Olvidar" in brackets
"becoming Martin's eighth top 10." → "while giving Martin his eighth top 10 track."
"number two and three" → "numbers two and three"
"The following week it" → "The following week, the former"
"and in its fourth week, it originally peaked at number 60." → "and originally peaked at number 60 in its fourth week on the Hot 100."
"it re-entered the chart" → ""The Cup of Life" re-entered the chart at number 95"
"As of May 2021, "The Cup of Life" is Martin's" → ""The Cup of Life" has since become Martin's"
Don't think Billboard is needed before Hot 100 here when the chart's full name has already been introduced
For the US charts in the first sentence of the fourth para, remove usage of the word "the" since otherwise you need to add "chart" after them all, grammatically
Add the word chart after US Hot Dance Maxi-Singles Sales
"it peaked at number 4," → "the song peaked at number four,"
"The videos for" → "The respective videos for" but only "The Cup of Life" video is sourced as airing in this year; maybe add a source for the other one?
Are you sure "another version of "La Copa de la Vida"" is correct since the source does not say it is third one, or should you write "the latter video"?
@
Kyle Peake: Unfortunately, I couldn't find a good source for that, there was only websites who had copied from Wikipedia.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 07:52, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی The source cited appears to refer to the latter video, so change to that in prose instead. --
K. Peake 09:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"basically consists of" → "consists mainly of"
"plus shots of different" → "as well as shots of different"
"are being projected onto a wall" → "are projected onto a wall" to be less wordy
If you don't have anything from the 10 footballentertainment source about the video, try and fit at least a mention in before you write about all three videos to be clearer
@
Kyle Peake: I'm sorry, is what I wrote now clear or should I change it again?
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 08:01, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی Add a mention of the third music video at the end of the para, using a source that writes about it or YouTube. --
K. Peake 09:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"of "La Copa de la Vida" on" → "of "La Copa de la Vida" for"
"he performed the anthem" → "he performed as the official anthem" per the source
"Fabian Holt described it as" → "Fabian Holt describes it as" for correct book tense
Remove comma after "his book", also merge this para with the below one since three sentences is too short
"the then-chief of
Columbia Records was" → "then-chief of Columbia Records, was"
Per rules on invoking refs, [107] should also be at the end of the above sentence and the quote from then-chief
"and a large number" → "alongside and a large number"
Add a comma after Rosie O'Donnell
"Billboard describes this performance" → "Billboard's Marjua Estevez described the performance"
"and ranks it as" → "and the publication ranked it as" but the only Latin artist part appears not to be sourced, unless I missed something? Either way, keep mention that the list is from 2017.
"on 2017 unranked" → "on a 2017 unranked"
"and on 2019 list" → "and on a 2019 list"
"describes the rendition as" → "described the rendition as"
"the 1998
Festivalbar and on the halftime show" → "the 1998
Festivalbar, and the halftime show"
"and "The Cup of Life" on
Bingolotto TV Show." → "and "The Cup of Life" on Bingolotto." but the song is not sourced as being performed on the show
First inauguration of George W. Bush should be piped to from "first inauguration", plus wikilink him on first mention
"and danced with
George W. Bush." → "and danced with him."
"on unranked list" → "on an unranked list"
"in his song" → "in his 2003 song"
The Hillary Clinton performance should be at the end of the section instead
Author-link Ellen DeGeneres on ref 142 and cite Facebook in via instead
Shouldn't Latinos Post be cited as work/website instead for ref 145?
WP:OVERLINK of The Wall Street Journal on ref 153
Remove or replace ref 180, as anyone can edit AllMusic for this type of info
External links
Good
Final comments and verdict
On hold until all of the issues are fixed; notice that I added in a few extra comments for the first two body sections. --
K. Peake 18:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Thank you so much for devoting your time and reviewing this article. Every time, I learn more things from you. I tried to fix all the issues and I hope I haven't missed anything. I'm sorry about the release dates that I couldn't find. Thanks again, I really appreciate your reviews.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 10:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی Fabulous work once again, but you still need to remove the publisher from the Univision ref and fix overquoting of the PF review. --
K. Peake 10:31, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی✓Pass time, incredible that this article has reached GA-status only a day after I even opened the review!!! --
K. Peake 10:56, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the
Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed
Love this song; it's going to be my pleasure to review for the backlog! --
K. Peake 07:56, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Good tatse!
And thank you so much, I start fixing the issues now.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 13:26, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Infobox and lead
Shouldn't the languages be separated in the infobox using bullet points instead of hlist?
1997 recording date is not sourced in the body; it is only said that he was contacted by FIFA to record that year
Add the Spanish title in brackets in the lead instead at the same point (
Spanish: "La Copa de la Vida")
You should add a sentence directly after the first one saying that "Martin created the song after
FIFA requested him an
anthem." with the pipe
"
Desmond Child and American musician
Draco Rosa, and its production was handled by Desmond Child and Rosa." → "
Desmond Child, and
Draco Rosa, while the production was handled by the latter two." plus introductions to the songwriters are not needed since they are provided in the body
Remove pipe on official song
"with full positive lyrics." → "with fully positive lyrics."
Mention what the critics praised after stating the song has received widely positive reviews, also split the rankings info into a separate sentence about how "The Cup of Life" has been ranked as one of the best World Cup anthems of all-time by multiple publications, mentioning ones that this is including
"hitting the charts in" → "appearing on the charts in" for correct lead language
Add a sentence afterwards about the platinum certifications in both Australia and France, as these are notable for the lead
Remove introduction to Wayne Isham because that being in the body is sufficient
"and filmed in a" → "and filmed during a"
"Martin performed it on" → "Martin performed it for"
"and met with acclaim from music critics." → "and received acclaim from critics."
The Bush inaugural performance should be the sentence after the Grammys performance
"It's known as" → "The song has become known as" to be clear you are not referring to the performance
"that ushered the" → "being credited as ushering in the"
"Multiple artists and contestants on various music talent shows have recorded their own cover version of the song." → "Multiple artists contestants on various music talent shows have covered the song, including
Carlito Olivero and
Alondra Santos."
@
Kyle Peake: Done. Except the one that you said "to be clear you are not referring to the performance". I exactly meant the performance ushered the "Latin explosion" per
The Cup of Life#Legacy and influence. And that's why I wrote the Bush inaugural performance sentence after this.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 13:59, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Background and release
Remove comma before A Medio Vivir
"in 1997 and was recording his fourth studio album, Vuelve at the same time," → "and recording Vuelve in 1997,"
Use the full 1998 FIFA World Cup identification
"Martin wrote about it in" → "Martin wrote about the request in"
"So K. C. Porter, Robi Rosa and Desmond Child" → "Following his acceptance, K. C. Porter, Robi Rosa, and Desmond Child"
"about the recording in his book:" → "about the recording in Me:"
"on March 9, 1998 in" → "on March 9, 1998, in" but the Columbia label and several countries parts are not sourced
@
Kyle Peake: I added a reference for Columbia label, but unfortunately for "several countries", I couldn't find anything better. El Tiempo mentions that "Vuelve" was the lead single and according to Billboard, "La Copa de la Vida" was the lead single in Europe and Asia. So, as far as I know and I could find data, "La Copa de la Vida" was the second single in the United States and Latin America. (After "Vuelve" which was the lead single there.)
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 14:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Remove the "in several countries" part without replacing it, but the rest of the sentence is fine now. --
K. Peake 18:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Mention the release date of the Sony Music Asia CD and add in European release(s) and possibly more Asian ones
@
Kyle Peake: Sorry again, there's no data about the release date of the CD. At least I couldn't find. I only found that Billboard aticle, nothing else.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 14:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
There are quite a few with their track listings wrote out; can't you add some here? --
K. Peake 18:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: I checked them, but it was only release year, they didn't mention the exact release date. Tell me if I'm wrong.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 07:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"American songwriter
Desmond Child and American musician
Draco Rosa, and its production was handled by" →"American songwriter
Desmond Child, and American musician
Draco Rosa, with its production being handled by"
"The song runs for a" → ""La Copa de la Vida" runs for a"
"describes "La Copa de la Vida" as a" → "described it as a" plus mention the name of the Billboard author
"and throughout the song, Martin carries" → "Throughout the song, Martin carries" since this should be a new sentence to avoid a run-on
1999 Latin Billboard Music Awards should italicise Billboard
Mention notable ones of the all-time rankings from the table in prose too, i.e. a few of the high rankings; this needs to be done since you've mention the song being ranked among lists in the lead
All-time lists should not be a sub-section when the table already has its caption
hashtags should be replaced with N/A for the unranked lists
Remove pipe on the second Billboard ranking
Remezcla should not be italicised
Commercial performance
"the single hit the charts" → "the track hit the charts"
"the charts of 25 countries," → "the charts of 25," to be less repetitive
"making it one of Martin's most successful songs." → "making it one of the most successful World Cup songs." per the source
The double A-side single should be mentioned in background and release instead, but keep AU position here
"spent six weeks at number one in the country." → "spent six weeks at number one on the
ARIA Singles Chart." with the pipe
The part about topping the year-end chart is basically the best-selling song stat repeated
"of over 70,000 copies." → "of over 70,000 copies in the country."
"It also peaked in the top 5 of Austria," → "The song also peaked within the top five in Austria," per
MOS:NUM
"becoming his second number one hit in the country," → "where it became Martin's second number one hit,"
"of over 500,000 copies." → "of over 500,000 copies in the country."
"It also spent" → "The song also spent"
"and was a number one hit in" → "and was also a number one hit in"
"Netherlands,[74] and Norway." → "the Netherlands,[74] and Norway."
"his 11th top 20." → "his 11th top 20 release on the chart."
"held off the" → "being held off the"
Add release year of "No Sé Olvidar" in brackets
"becoming Martin's eighth top 10." → "while giving Martin his eighth top 10 track."
"number two and three" → "numbers two and three"
"The following week it" → "The following week, the former"
"and in its fourth week, it originally peaked at number 60." → "and originally peaked at number 60 in its fourth week on the Hot 100."
"it re-entered the chart" → ""The Cup of Life" re-entered the chart at number 95"
"As of May 2021, "The Cup of Life" is Martin's" → ""The Cup of Life" has since become Martin's"
Don't think Billboard is needed before Hot 100 here when the chart's full name has already been introduced
For the US charts in the first sentence of the fourth para, remove usage of the word "the" since otherwise you need to add "chart" after them all, grammatically
Add the word chart after US Hot Dance Maxi-Singles Sales
"it peaked at number 4," → "the song peaked at number four,"
"The videos for" → "The respective videos for" but only "The Cup of Life" video is sourced as airing in this year; maybe add a source for the other one?
Are you sure "another version of "La Copa de la Vida"" is correct since the source does not say it is third one, or should you write "the latter video"?
@
Kyle Peake: Unfortunately, I couldn't find a good source for that, there was only websites who had copied from Wikipedia.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 07:52, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی The source cited appears to refer to the latter video, so change to that in prose instead. --
K. Peake 09:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"basically consists of" → "consists mainly of"
"plus shots of different" → "as well as shots of different"
"are being projected onto a wall" → "are projected onto a wall" to be less wordy
If you don't have anything from the 10 footballentertainment source about the video, try and fit at least a mention in before you write about all three videos to be clearer
@
Kyle Peake: I'm sorry, is what I wrote now clear or should I change it again?
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 08:01, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی Add a mention of the third music video at the end of the para, using a source that writes about it or YouTube. --
K. Peake 09:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
"of "La Copa de la Vida" on" → "of "La Copa de la Vida" for"
"he performed the anthem" → "he performed as the official anthem" per the source
"Fabian Holt described it as" → "Fabian Holt describes it as" for correct book tense
Remove comma after "his book", also merge this para with the below one since three sentences is too short
"the then-chief of
Columbia Records was" → "then-chief of Columbia Records, was"
Per rules on invoking refs, [107] should also be at the end of the above sentence and the quote from then-chief
"and a large number" → "alongside and a large number"
Add a comma after Rosie O'Donnell
"Billboard describes this performance" → "Billboard's Marjua Estevez described the performance"
"and ranks it as" → "and the publication ranked it as" but the only Latin artist part appears not to be sourced, unless I missed something? Either way, keep mention that the list is from 2017.
"on 2017 unranked" → "on a 2017 unranked"
"and on 2019 list" → "and on a 2019 list"
"describes the rendition as" → "described the rendition as"
"the 1998
Festivalbar and on the halftime show" → "the 1998
Festivalbar, and the halftime show"
"and "The Cup of Life" on
Bingolotto TV Show." → "and "The Cup of Life" on Bingolotto." but the song is not sourced as being performed on the show
First inauguration of George W. Bush should be piped to from "first inauguration", plus wikilink him on first mention
"and danced with
George W. Bush." → "and danced with him."
"on unranked list" → "on an unranked list"
"in his song" → "in his 2003 song"
The Hillary Clinton performance should be at the end of the section instead
Author-link Ellen DeGeneres on ref 142 and cite Facebook in via instead
Shouldn't Latinos Post be cited as work/website instead for ref 145?
WP:OVERLINK of The Wall Street Journal on ref 153
Remove or replace ref 180, as anyone can edit AllMusic for this type of info
External links
Good
Final comments and verdict
On hold until all of the issues are fixed; notice that I added in a few extra comments for the first two body sections. --
K. Peake 18:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Kyle Peake: Thank you so much for devoting your time and reviewing this article. Every time, I learn more things from you. I tried to fix all the issues and I hope I haven't missed anything. I'm sorry about the release dates that I couldn't find. Thanks again, I really appreciate your reviews.
آرمین هویدایی (
talk) 10:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی Fabulous work once again, but you still need to remove the publisher from the Univision ref and fix overquoting of the PF review. --
K. Peake 10:31, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply
آرمین هویدایی✓Pass time, incredible that this article has reached GA-status only a day after I even opened the review!!! --
K. Peake 10:56, 8 July 2021 (UTC)reply