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File:Possible Interiors of the TRAPPIST-1 Exoplanets.jpg has been commented out for a while because it incorrectly claims that the density is precisely known. There is an alternative file File:Possible Interiors of the TRAPPIST-1 Exoplanets 02.png which however lacks all text. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 18:23, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
The page currently does not use Template:Starbox begin b/c that template repeatedly links several pages, as per Nimbus227's comments at the featured article candidacy. However, the current markup is messy, probably will become a maintenance issue, and folks at Template talk:Starbox begin have said that they don't think it's highly important to avoid overlinking in the template also for reader reasons. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
I am not convinced that putting the table after the planet sections is useful. For good or ill, the planet sections are just brief summaries and the table is the more important information. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 07:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
This edit by User:Jo-Jo Eumerus causes the popup to display the literal wikisource:
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rather than the first sentence or so of the article itself. I assume it is due to the fact that the infobox header is in a template whereas this row of the table is directly in the article, and the light-weight popup doesn't do a full parsing/transclusion to recognize that it's a table. Did a {{ Starbox character}} get subst:ed by accident? DMacks ( talk) 15:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Currently, the first mention of the James Webb Space Telescope is in the TRAPPIST-1b section. I've put a second link in the scientific importance section since it's more important there, but I'd like to get second opinions on where to put the link and where the acronym - maybe one in the lead too? Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
I've added some information in the "potential atmospheres" section on the ruling-out of an atmosphere around TRAPPIST-1b but I don't really like it. Also, while anyone's here, can anyone check whether the nbsp bits need to be added anywhere? Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 12:07, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Not sure if this source warrants an update. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:05, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
This source discusses the possibility that active phases of Sagittarius A* might remove hydrogen/oxygen atmospheres of the middle TRAPPIST-1 planets. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 17:20, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
I'm aware of the two Nature articles published last year, but it is often omitted that these preliminary observations are single photometric measurements confined to a single bandpass, 13.5–16.6 μm. It is impossible to rule out presence of all thick atmospheres solely based on a single bandpass [1](p. 9). Yes the measurements rule out a large subset of CO2 atmospheres, but there still exist subset of CO2 atmosphere that can exhibit airless feature at 13.5–16.6 μm but may show up in other bandpasses. If we only have a single bandpass data, then presence of thick CO2 atmosphere cannot be ruled out, though the most parsimonious interpretation would be airless/thin atmosphere.
Indeed, more observations in a different bandpass 11.6–14.2 μm has found surprisingly low emission that is possibly indicative of heat redistribution by a thick atmosphere [2]. A type of thick atmosphere that show up in 11.6–14.2 μm wavelength, but not in 13.5–16.6 μm, is CO2 with thermal inversion.
Nothing conclusive about the presence of atmospheres on 1b and 1c until double phase curve or more bandpass measurements out, maybe later this year! Aleral Wei ( talk) 18:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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File:Possible Interiors of the TRAPPIST-1 Exoplanets.jpg has been commented out for a while because it incorrectly claims that the density is precisely known. There is an alternative file File:Possible Interiors of the TRAPPIST-1 Exoplanets 02.png which however lacks all text. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 18:23, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
The page currently does not use Template:Starbox begin b/c that template repeatedly links several pages, as per Nimbus227's comments at the featured article candidacy. However, the current markup is messy, probably will become a maintenance issue, and folks at Template talk:Starbox begin have said that they don't think it's highly important to avoid overlinking in the template also for reader reasons. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
I am not convinced that putting the table after the planet sections is useful. For good or ill, the planet sections are just brief summaries and the table is the more important information. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 07:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
This edit by User:Jo-Jo Eumerus causes the popup to display the literal wikisource:
! style="background-color: #FFFFC0; text-align: center;" colspan="2"|
rather than the first sentence or so of the article itself. I assume it is due to the fact that the infobox header is in a template whereas this row of the table is directly in the article, and the light-weight popup doesn't do a full parsing/transclusion to recognize that it's a table. Did a {{ Starbox character}} get subst:ed by accident? DMacks ( talk) 15:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Currently, the first mention of the James Webb Space Telescope is in the TRAPPIST-1b section. I've put a second link in the scientific importance section since it's more important there, but I'd like to get second opinions on where to put the link and where the acronym - maybe one in the lead too? Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 08:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
I've added some information in the "potential atmospheres" section on the ruling-out of an atmosphere around TRAPPIST-1b but I don't really like it. Also, while anyone's here, can anyone check whether the nbsp bits need to be added anywhere? Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 12:07, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Not sure if this source warrants an update. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:05, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
This source discusses the possibility that active phases of Sagittarius A* might remove hydrogen/oxygen atmospheres of the middle TRAPPIST-1 planets. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 17:20, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
I'm aware of the two Nature articles published last year, but it is often omitted that these preliminary observations are single photometric measurements confined to a single bandpass, 13.5–16.6 μm. It is impossible to rule out presence of all thick atmospheres solely based on a single bandpass [1](p. 9). Yes the measurements rule out a large subset of CO2 atmospheres, but there still exist subset of CO2 atmosphere that can exhibit airless feature at 13.5–16.6 μm but may show up in other bandpasses. If we only have a single bandpass data, then presence of thick CO2 atmosphere cannot be ruled out, though the most parsimonious interpretation would be airless/thin atmosphere.
Indeed, more observations in a different bandpass 11.6–14.2 μm has found surprisingly low emission that is possibly indicative of heat redistribution by a thick atmosphere [2]. A type of thick atmosphere that show up in 11.6–14.2 μm wavelength, but not in 13.5–16.6 μm, is CO2 with thermal inversion.
Nothing conclusive about the presence of atmospheres on 1b and 1c until double phase curve or more bandpass measurements out, maybe later this year! Aleral Wei ( talk) 18:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)