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New information about closing

The FBI has stated that the site will be closed indefinitely, not temporarily, according to new information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.92.79.126 ( talk) 01:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply

No, that’s not what reliable sources say. Let’s wait until multiple sources (not just KOAT-TV) report an updated closure status. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 02:12, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply
OK, updated.- LuckyLouie ( talk) 13:45, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply
It turns out a janitor was arrested. Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS, and this has no lasting significance for Sunspot Solar Observatory. It doesn't belong in the article. Alsee ( talk) 19:48, 6 October 2018 (UTC) reply
The temporary closure event is a historical event that needs to be included in Sunspot Solar Observatory article. The temporary closure event was covered in the national and international press. Eventually, the temporary closure event will need to be re-added to the article because it was a historical event. Thank you- RFD ( talk) 12:28, 7 October 2018 (UTC) reply
I agree. A temporary closure is not normal is not exactly "normal" for an observatory. If this sort of thing was considered "normal" for Sunspot (or for observatories in general), it wouldn't be worth mentioning, but something this rare certainly is. 71.112.206.17 ( talk) 02:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC) reply
The closure was the subject of a lot of conspiracy theories and media coverage. That makes it notable. 2601:8C1:8202:5590:4A63:A822:441A:DF4A ( talk) 09:47, 30 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}} Article says 33°58′31.99″N 107°10′52.63″W, google earth gives me 32°47′14″ N 105°49′15″W, google maps gives @32.7899803,-105.8181881

Prevalence 00:30, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply

 Done. The coordinates in the article were clearly incorrect. The facility is somewhat spread out, but I've gone with the coordinates of what OpenStreetMap labels as the "Mainlab". Deor ( talk) 05:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Consensus on 'closure of Sunspot

There have been several iterations as to the inclusion of a 'closure' section. I propose it was clearly the city of Sunspot that was closed, and so this discussion belongs on the Sunspot, NM page. The Observatory consists of people across multiple universties and locations. Despite the city closing, and so the Observatory people in Sunspot NM not allowed to their offices for a few day, clearly all the other Observatory personnel at the other institutions clearly did get to work. Perhaps I should an include a section defining the 'Observatory' better (sourced from their website?)( Alamo NM ( talk) 16:24, 10 September 2019 (UTC)) reply

I added in a sentence, as discussed above. I note this was also already in the lead paragraph, so perhaps none of this is needed? ( Alamo NM ( talk) 16:30, 10 September 2019 (UTC)) reply

If the sources have it wrong, maybe other sources correct them; if the issue is the text that doesn't properly reflect them, it can also be improved. The main reason this material is here is that conspiracy theories about it made the news... Information in the lead should be a summary of the body. I don't think that a mention of the event is necessary in the lead, personally. — Paleo Neonate – 01:59, 29 December 2019 (UTC) reply

See above - the Sunspot Solar Observatory is a large multi-institutional observatory. It did not close. The site of Sunspot closed, so this belongs in the wikipedia entry for Sunspot, NM. Alamo NM ( talk) 21:48, 9 January 2020 (UTC) reply

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A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. Community Tech bot ( talk) 22:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC) reply


New information about closing

The FBI has stated that the site will be closed indefinitely, not temporarily, according to new information — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.92.79.126 ( talk) 01:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply

No, that’s not what reliable sources say. Let’s wait until multiple sources (not just KOAT-TV) report an updated closure status. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 02:12, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply
OK, updated.- LuckyLouie ( talk) 13:45, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply
It turns out a janitor was arrested. Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS, and this has no lasting significance for Sunspot Solar Observatory. It doesn't belong in the article. Alsee ( talk) 19:48, 6 October 2018 (UTC) reply
The temporary closure event is a historical event that needs to be included in Sunspot Solar Observatory article. The temporary closure event was covered in the national and international press. Eventually, the temporary closure event will need to be re-added to the article because it was a historical event. Thank you- RFD ( talk) 12:28, 7 October 2018 (UTC) reply
I agree. A temporary closure is not normal is not exactly "normal" for an observatory. If this sort of thing was considered "normal" for Sunspot (or for observatories in general), it wouldn't be worth mentioning, but something this rare certainly is. 71.112.206.17 ( talk) 02:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC) reply
The closure was the subject of a lot of conspiracy theories and media coverage. That makes it notable. 2601:8C1:8202:5590:4A63:A822:441A:DF4A ( talk) 09:47, 30 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}} Article says 33°58′31.99″N 107°10′52.63″W, google earth gives me 32°47′14″ N 105°49′15″W, google maps gives @32.7899803,-105.8181881

Prevalence 00:30, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply

 Done. The coordinates in the article were clearly incorrect. The facility is somewhat spread out, but I've gone with the coordinates of what OpenStreetMap labels as the "Mainlab". Deor ( talk) 05:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Consensus on 'closure of Sunspot

There have been several iterations as to the inclusion of a 'closure' section. I propose it was clearly the city of Sunspot that was closed, and so this discussion belongs on the Sunspot, NM page. The Observatory consists of people across multiple universties and locations. Despite the city closing, and so the Observatory people in Sunspot NM not allowed to their offices for a few day, clearly all the other Observatory personnel at the other institutions clearly did get to work. Perhaps I should an include a section defining the 'Observatory' better (sourced from their website?)( Alamo NM ( talk) 16:24, 10 September 2019 (UTC)) reply

I added in a sentence, as discussed above. I note this was also already in the lead paragraph, so perhaps none of this is needed? ( Alamo NM ( talk) 16:30, 10 September 2019 (UTC)) reply

If the sources have it wrong, maybe other sources correct them; if the issue is the text that doesn't properly reflect them, it can also be improved. The main reason this material is here is that conspiracy theories about it made the news... Information in the lead should be a summary of the body. I don't think that a mention of the event is necessary in the lead, personally. — Paleo Neonate – 01:59, 29 December 2019 (UTC) reply

See above - the Sunspot Solar Observatory is a large multi-institutional observatory. It did not close. The site of Sunspot closed, so this belongs in the wikipedia entry for Sunspot, NM. Alamo NM ( talk) 21:48, 9 January 2020 (UTC) reply


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