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fixing some vandalism — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palnu ( talk • contribs) 22:42, 12 October 2003 (UTC)
Does anyone know the word for a statue that is holding something? I know that there is a special word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.100.194 ( talk) 12:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
The lead image of this article - The Thinker by Rodin is widely known and is one of the most well known statues in the world. The Venus of Dolní Věstonice while very old is neither well known or a statue. It is a tiny figurine.... Modernist ( talk) 01:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
The statue at the bottom of the page, named "Asclepius", is not. "Hermes", Greek Messenger-god, is the one with the wings on his sandals, hat, and caudecus. The caudecus of medicine did not traditionally have wings. 76.90.229.237 ( talk) 23:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Just did some cleanup on the few existing references. This includes removing the Encyclopedia Brittanica reference, which consisted only of the line "See Encyclopedia Brittanica": no edition, no volume, no page number, not even an article title. That's not a reference. The other two references (to Snopes.com and Straightdope.com) were similarly lazy, consisting of a standard ref template left almost completely blank, with the end result that both "references" appeared in the reflist as "?". Since both of the latter two articles still exist online, I collected the complete info from those sites and completed the ref templates. I also moved the refimprove template from the bottom of the article to the top. 12.233.146.130 ( talk) 20:42, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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Webster's New World College Dictionary2001 defines statue as " the figure of a person or animal, or an imagined or abstract form, carved in stone ." .etc. I am inclined to update the definition in the article and remove the sentence " Its primary concern is representational. "While this is also how I think of the term, the dictionary seems to not support this POV, and in this case, as in most cases, the dictionary should win. Feel free to counter my argument with yours. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 18:30, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
I discuss it with the editor involved, but with annon editors this does not work, so I'll let you folks be the judges. I cut:
A check with Robert Graves, my go-to guy for Greek mythology, has the Medusa turning folks to stone, but her head also turns seaweed to corral - which is ( opinion) different from "statue." Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 20:52, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
This specialized website says(in the Perseus part):"Perseus stormed to the palace, walked in and said, "Let all who are my friends shield their eyes!" So saying he raised Medusa's head and Polydectes and his courtiers were changed to statues." and "Perseus went farther north until he found an island surrounded by rocks and statues which used to be men."(link: http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/gg/perseus.html). If you want books,it's written in their bibliography section( http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/gg/bibliography.html):
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"Some statues gain fame in their own right, separate to the person or concept they represent, as with the Statue of Liberty."
Should that be "separate from the people" or what? Also I'd say that the
Statue of Liberty is not separate from the concept that she represents. However no changes until I hear from you. Or until you don't answer. Einar aka
Carptrash (
talk) 16:37, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
A few things a reader may be interested in:
There are a few other items:
Surprisingly, other Wikis, e.g. French, German, etc. are also very short on this obvious item.... History2007 ( talk) 23:43, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Any ideas what the oldest one would be? This sounds unusual, saying the oldest stone one in China was from the year AD 499. This one also thinks the year AD 552 is the oldest they know of... Ideas? History2007 ( talk) 13:53, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons has a related category and sub-categories. The "modern" statutes that were in the gallery section added nothing educational to this topic beyond what the images of older statutes already provided, and their mere presence in this article was at least slightly promotional, so I removed them.
I recommend removing the gallery section entirely and selectively keeping no more than 1 example of each of the major types of statues that exist, with no more than 3-4 images total in the article. I'm open to having more than 3-4 if the article expands significantly beyond its current size. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 22:19, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
One rule of thumb to consider: if, due to its content, such a gallery would only lend itself to a title along the lines of "Gallery" or "Images of [insert article title]", as opposed to a more descriptive title, the gallery should either be revamped or moved to the Commons.
A gallery is not a tool to shoehorn images into an article, and a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject should generally either be improved in accordance with the above paragraph or moved to Wikimedia Commons.
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In an effort to address biases on Wikipedia, the wider internet and in the real world as to the lack of representation of women (or other non-male genders), I would like to add a statue depicting a non-male and sculpted by a non-male among the all men statues currently presented. As such I had added the Harriet Tubman statue by Alison Saar. @ Modernist:, I do not understand why you you added my edit to Gallery instead of having it be one of the preview images. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mclovinplasse ( talk • contribs) 06:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I was asked to put it in the gallery why was this reverted without explanation. 185.43.229.61 ( talk) 19:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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fixing some vandalism — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palnu ( talk • contribs) 22:42, 12 October 2003 (UTC)
Does anyone know the word for a statue that is holding something? I know that there is a special word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.100.194 ( talk) 12:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
The lead image of this article - The Thinker by Rodin is widely known and is one of the most well known statues in the world. The Venus of Dolní Věstonice while very old is neither well known or a statue. It is a tiny figurine.... Modernist ( talk) 01:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
The statue at the bottom of the page, named "Asclepius", is not. "Hermes", Greek Messenger-god, is the one with the wings on his sandals, hat, and caudecus. The caudecus of medicine did not traditionally have wings. 76.90.229.237 ( talk) 23:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Just did some cleanup on the few existing references. This includes removing the Encyclopedia Brittanica reference, which consisted only of the line "See Encyclopedia Brittanica": no edition, no volume, no page number, not even an article title. That's not a reference. The other two references (to Snopes.com and Straightdope.com) were similarly lazy, consisting of a standard ref template left almost completely blank, with the end result that both "references" appeared in the reflist as "?". Since both of the latter two articles still exist online, I collected the complete info from those sites and completed the ref templates. I also moved the refimprove template from the bottom of the article to the top. 12.233.146.130 ( talk) 20:42, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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Webster's New World College Dictionary2001 defines statue as " the figure of a person or animal, or an imagined or abstract form, carved in stone ." .etc. I am inclined to update the definition in the article and remove the sentence " Its primary concern is representational. "While this is also how I think of the term, the dictionary seems to not support this POV, and in this case, as in most cases, the dictionary should win. Feel free to counter my argument with yours. Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 18:30, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
I discuss it with the editor involved, but with annon editors this does not work, so I'll let you folks be the judges. I cut:
A check with Robert Graves, my go-to guy for Greek mythology, has the Medusa turning folks to stone, but her head also turns seaweed to corral - which is ( opinion) different from "statue." Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 20:52, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
This specialized website says(in the Perseus part):"Perseus stormed to the palace, walked in and said, "Let all who are my friends shield their eyes!" So saying he raised Medusa's head and Polydectes and his courtiers were changed to statues." and "Perseus went farther north until he found an island surrounded by rocks and statues which used to be men."(link: http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/gg/perseus.html). If you want books,it's written in their bibliography section( http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/gg/bibliography.html):
References
"Some statues gain fame in their own right, separate to the person or concept they represent, as with the Statue of Liberty."
Should that be "separate from the people" or what? Also I'd say that the
Statue of Liberty is not separate from the concept that she represents. However no changes until I hear from you. Or until you don't answer. Einar aka
Carptrash (
talk) 16:37, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
A few things a reader may be interested in:
There are a few other items:
Surprisingly, other Wikis, e.g. French, German, etc. are also very short on this obvious item.... History2007 ( talk) 23:43, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Any ideas what the oldest one would be? This sounds unusual, saying the oldest stone one in China was from the year AD 499. This one also thinks the year AD 552 is the oldest they know of... Ideas? History2007 ( talk) 13:53, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons has a related category and sub-categories. The "modern" statutes that were in the gallery section added nothing educational to this topic beyond what the images of older statutes already provided, and their mere presence in this article was at least slightly promotional, so I removed them.
I recommend removing the gallery section entirely and selectively keeping no more than 1 example of each of the major types of statues that exist, with no more than 3-4 images total in the article. I'm open to having more than 3-4 if the article expands significantly beyond its current size. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 22:19, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
One rule of thumb to consider: if, due to its content, such a gallery would only lend itself to a title along the lines of "Gallery" or "Images of [insert article title]", as opposed to a more descriptive title, the gallery should either be revamped or moved to the Commons.
A gallery is not a tool to shoehorn images into an article, and a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject should generally either be improved in accordance with the above paragraph or moved to Wikimedia Commons.
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In an effort to address biases on Wikipedia, the wider internet and in the real world as to the lack of representation of women (or other non-male genders), I would like to add a statue depicting a non-male and sculpted by a non-male among the all men statues currently presented. As such I had added the Harriet Tubman statue by Alison Saar. @ Modernist:, I do not understand why you you added my edit to Gallery instead of having it be one of the preview images. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mclovinplasse ( talk • contribs) 06:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I was asked to put it in the gallery why was this reverted without explanation. 185.43.229.61 ( talk) 19:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)