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Lulaq, I've got a couple of specific concerns about the section you are adding (and edit-warring with Famspear over). My concerns are about the sourcing of specific claims in the section, especially when living persons are involved. First, the statement "the Board of Disciplinary Appeals have deemed some rules to effectively be void and unenforceable" needs to be explicitly backed up by a source. It's not backed up by rules of professional conduct page. Same thing with the statement "However, since obstruction of justice is not defined in the Rules and there are no per se offenses in the Texas Penal Code for "obstruction of justice", even though there are for "obstruction of governmental operation", the State Bar cannot act on specific criminal violations of law in enforcing that provision." You need to have a source that explicitly makes each of those points (obstruction of justice is not defined, no per se offenses in the Texas Penal Code for "obstruction of justice" and "state bar cannot act ...". If the claim isn't specifically in a source, adding it to the article is original research.
Also, you've got a statement at the end of the section that references a living person that does not have a source. Again, you've got to have a source that specifically supports the claim. You've actually got two claims in that last sentence, one about a living person and another a broad general claim about the bar refusing to reprimand. You need sources that cover both claims. Wikipedia's policies about unsourced claims about living persons (commonly called WP:BLP) are very strict. Please don't readd the statements without addressing the concerns of other editors. Ravensfire ( talk) 20:19, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
All y'all need to check your politics at the door. There is nothing wrong with sourcing the official commentary or making note of the official State Bar disciplinary process in neutral terminology. Also, there is no need to talk about Ms Lehmberg here. 198.228.204.251 ( talk) 02:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I have begun a clean up. With respect to Texas attorneys, there is no such thing as the "Texas Professional Rules of Disciplinary Conduct." There are two sets of rules that have been promulgated with respect to the conduct of Texas attorneys (but I hasten to add that they are not the only rules in the universe that govern the conduct of Texas attorneys):
1. The Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct;
2. The Texas Rules of Disciplinary Procedure.
More later. Famspear ( talk) 21:01, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
As editor BD2412 has illustrated, the fact that the actual, verbatim text of a primary source (such as the Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct) is published on Cornell University's Legal Information Institute (LII) web site does not convert the text from a primary source to a "secondary" source, even if you are using the Cornell LII web site in your citation for the text. Cornell's LII is not the author of the material. Famspear ( talk) 18:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
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Lulaq, I've got a couple of specific concerns about the section you are adding (and edit-warring with Famspear over). My concerns are about the sourcing of specific claims in the section, especially when living persons are involved. First, the statement "the Board of Disciplinary Appeals have deemed some rules to effectively be void and unenforceable" needs to be explicitly backed up by a source. It's not backed up by rules of professional conduct page. Same thing with the statement "However, since obstruction of justice is not defined in the Rules and there are no per se offenses in the Texas Penal Code for "obstruction of justice", even though there are for "obstruction of governmental operation", the State Bar cannot act on specific criminal violations of law in enforcing that provision." You need to have a source that explicitly makes each of those points (obstruction of justice is not defined, no per se offenses in the Texas Penal Code for "obstruction of justice" and "state bar cannot act ...". If the claim isn't specifically in a source, adding it to the article is original research.
Also, you've got a statement at the end of the section that references a living person that does not have a source. Again, you've got to have a source that specifically supports the claim. You've actually got two claims in that last sentence, one about a living person and another a broad general claim about the bar refusing to reprimand. You need sources that cover both claims. Wikipedia's policies about unsourced claims about living persons (commonly called WP:BLP) are very strict. Please don't readd the statements without addressing the concerns of other editors. Ravensfire ( talk) 20:19, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
All y'all need to check your politics at the door. There is nothing wrong with sourcing the official commentary or making note of the official State Bar disciplinary process in neutral terminology. Also, there is no need to talk about Ms Lehmberg here. 198.228.204.251 ( talk) 02:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I have begun a clean up. With respect to Texas attorneys, there is no such thing as the "Texas Professional Rules of Disciplinary Conduct." There are two sets of rules that have been promulgated with respect to the conduct of Texas attorneys (but I hasten to add that they are not the only rules in the universe that govern the conduct of Texas attorneys):
1. The Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct;
2. The Texas Rules of Disciplinary Procedure.
More later. Famspear ( talk) 21:01, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
As editor BD2412 has illustrated, the fact that the actual, verbatim text of a primary source (such as the Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct) is published on Cornell University's Legal Information Institute (LII) web site does not convert the text from a primary source to a "secondary" source, even if you are using the Cornell LII web site in your citation for the text. Cornell's LII is not the author of the material. Famspear ( talk) 18:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)