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"As the Space Race wound down and the Vietnam War began to take precedence in the minds of U.S. citizens,...."
what is this supposed to mean ? What time did the author of this have in mind ? It makes no sense.
"As the Space Race wound down...." implies the end of the Apollo program, around 1972. "The Vietnam War began to take precedence in the minds of US Citizens.." , what, around 1965 ? It is spurious to suggest that the rise in importance of the Vietnam War as an issue coincided with the winding down of the space race, it preceded it by about 7 years. Eregli bob ( talk) 09:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC).
This article is not supported by the references. In addition, straight from the horse's mouth, which would be NASA's Kennedy space center, the Space Trasnportation System (STS) is as follows:
There is nothing about the international space station that is part of this program. That is apparently another program. Nor is there anything about how the "Space Race wound down and the Vietnam War began to take precedence in the minds of U.S. citizens"... that part of the article reads like an usubstantiated essay.
The reference discusses the space shuttle system, comprised of four elements, which makes up at least part of the STS. Then Space shuttle requirements are discussed, then background and status, etc., etc. Some hunting around through these links gets in to some fine detail, but it is still all about the shuttle. This is all related to the Space shuttle, and unfortunately it is probably indistinguishable from the articles entitled " Space Shuttle" and Space Shuttle program".
I apologize but based on this, I am making this page a redirect to the page entitled " Space Shuttle program"---- Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) ( talk) 03:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Project Horizon had absolutely nothing to do with the 1970's planned Space Transportation System, so these paragraphs are totally out of scope of this article:
Note Project Horizon has its own article; if there is anything new in the above, it belongs there. JustinTime55 ( talk) 15:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that you recently added commentary to an article, Space Transportation System. While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them, and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. However, keep in mind that even on the talk page of an article, you should limit your discussion to improving the article. Article talk pages are not the place to discuss opinions of the subject of articles, nor are such pages a forum. Fotaun, using the Voyager program (Mars) as an example of obscurity amounts to talking in the article, and should have been made as an argument here.
The science.nasa.ksc.gov page defining Space Transportation System as meaning the shuttle proves nothing; this was essentially a political trick which NASA used to try to sell the shuttle to Congress, and this is verified in a book in the NASA historical collection which I have to get around to digging up. The article is still in stub status, and verifications are pending. All your edit did was to encourage someone else to add the defunct Project Horizon, which had nothing at all to do with the 1970's STS.
Just because you weren't around to know something, and can't quickly find it on the web, doesn't mean it isn't verifiably true. Wikipedia isn't in the business of rewriting history. JustinTime55 ( talk) 21:22, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
The term shuttle denotes a vehicle which makes repeated, regular trips between two points, such as the Earth's surface and orbit. A ferry is a vehicle which travels back and forth between two points (e.g. Earth and Moon, Earth and another planet, etc.) repeatedly, without necessarily describing the frequency. The nuclear vehicle meant for lunar or interplanetary travel is probably best referred to as a ferry rather than a shuttle. JustinTime55 ( talk) 14:36, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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"As the Space Race wound down and the Vietnam War began to take precedence in the minds of U.S. citizens,...."
what is this supposed to mean ? What time did the author of this have in mind ? It makes no sense.
"As the Space Race wound down...." implies the end of the Apollo program, around 1972. "The Vietnam War began to take precedence in the minds of US Citizens.." , what, around 1965 ? It is spurious to suggest that the rise in importance of the Vietnam War as an issue coincided with the winding down of the space race, it preceded it by about 7 years. Eregli bob ( talk) 09:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC).
This article is not supported by the references. In addition, straight from the horse's mouth, which would be NASA's Kennedy space center, the Space Trasnportation System (STS) is as follows:
There is nothing about the international space station that is part of this program. That is apparently another program. Nor is there anything about how the "Space Race wound down and the Vietnam War began to take precedence in the minds of U.S. citizens"... that part of the article reads like an usubstantiated essay.
The reference discusses the space shuttle system, comprised of four elements, which makes up at least part of the STS. Then Space shuttle requirements are discussed, then background and status, etc., etc. Some hunting around through these links gets in to some fine detail, but it is still all about the shuttle. This is all related to the Space shuttle, and unfortunately it is probably indistinguishable from the articles entitled " Space Shuttle" and Space Shuttle program".
I apologize but based on this, I am making this page a redirect to the page entitled " Space Shuttle program"---- Steve Quinn (formerly Ti-30X) ( talk) 03:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Project Horizon had absolutely nothing to do with the 1970's planned Space Transportation System, so these paragraphs are totally out of scope of this article:
Note Project Horizon has its own article; if there is anything new in the above, it belongs there. JustinTime55 ( talk) 15:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
References
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that you recently added commentary to an article, Space Transportation System. While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them, and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. However, keep in mind that even on the talk page of an article, you should limit your discussion to improving the article. Article talk pages are not the place to discuss opinions of the subject of articles, nor are such pages a forum. Fotaun, using the Voyager program (Mars) as an example of obscurity amounts to talking in the article, and should have been made as an argument here.
The science.nasa.ksc.gov page defining Space Transportation System as meaning the shuttle proves nothing; this was essentially a political trick which NASA used to try to sell the shuttle to Congress, and this is verified in a book in the NASA historical collection which I have to get around to digging up. The article is still in stub status, and verifications are pending. All your edit did was to encourage someone else to add the defunct Project Horizon, which had nothing at all to do with the 1970's STS.
Just because you weren't around to know something, and can't quickly find it on the web, doesn't mean it isn't verifiably true. Wikipedia isn't in the business of rewriting history. JustinTime55 ( talk) 21:22, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
The term shuttle denotes a vehicle which makes repeated, regular trips between two points, such as the Earth's surface and orbit. A ferry is a vehicle which travels back and forth between two points (e.g. Earth and Moon, Earth and another planet, etc.) repeatedly, without necessarily describing the frequency. The nuclear vehicle meant for lunar or interplanetary travel is probably best referred to as a ferry rather than a shuttle. JustinTime55 ( talk) 14:36, 31 May 2022 (UTC)