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The only other article I see with the same title is
Sent (novel). A DAB page for only 2 articles seems a little unnecessary when you can just have a hatnote at the top of each article pointing to the other.
Rreagan007 (
talk) 22:15, 21 September 2023 (UTC)reply
OpposeWP:NOTDICTIONARY. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and does not need to set aside space for dictionary definitions. There is no other major alternate primary topic.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 20:50, 22 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support – Disambiguation works better for such terms. I'd do the same for
Nice.
Dicklyon (
talk) 00:32, 23 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. There is also Dutch economist
Esther-Mirjam Sent, by the way.
BD2412T 02:19, 23 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Note: I have gathered the hits together at
Sent (disambiguation), which can be swapped for this title. There are enough possibilities to convince me rather solidly on this one.
BD2412T 02:30, 23 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Again, none of these are possible primary topics. SENT falls under
WP:DIFFCAPS.
Sent (novel) is not notable.
Esther-Mirjam Sent is not notable enough to be known on a last name basis, and would fall under
WP:PTM.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 04:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Zxcvbnm:Esther-Mirjam Sent appears to have
a substantial publication history; I don't think it is at all clear that she is less notable by that name than a former place in Switzerland. In any case, all of these are frankly drowned out by the common use of the word as the past tense of "send".
WP:DICT doesn't require that we turn a blind eye to the overwhelmingly most common meaning of a word. Compare
Went,
Wrote.
BD2412T 04:52, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Wrote has a
WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT target; "sent" does not. For "went", primary appears to be the set index list of surnames, but there is only one person with the "sent" surname, so no list is merited. Therefore, this is not the same situation.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 04:58, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I have started
Draft:Sending to capture this topic. Cheers!
BD2412T 15:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom (and move the DAB page per above).
217.180.228.138 (
talk) 03:18, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose Unlike the other examples (went, wrote) there is no article for the word. Other topics are less significant, partial titles or use different capitalisation. And it's still a place, just not a municipality.
Peter James (
talk) 17:44, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Peter James: That is actually a concern.
Send is a disambiguation page and
Sending redirects to an obscure album, but the concept of "sending" (whether it be a person, a message, or an item) is deeply inculcated in human culture, and we may be missing a broad-concept article covering this concept.
BD2412T 19:20, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Maybe, but until then the naming should probably stay as-is. If a viable
WP:BROADCONCEPT page can be made I definitely support a primary redirect there.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 20:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom and Dicklyon, and create a disambiguation page --
67.70.25.175 (
talk) 05:11, 25 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support though
SENT (protocol) may not have as much long-term significance it has 1,548 views compared with only 194[
[1]] for the place and DIFFCAPS may not be too helpful if the protocol is sometimes "Sent". Crouch, Swale (
talk) 20:36, 25 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support only on the condition that an article on
sending be written that
sent will be able to redirect to.
RedSlash 22:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)reply
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The only other article I see with the same title is
Sent (novel). A DAB page for only 2 articles seems a little unnecessary when you can just have a hatnote at the top of each article pointing to the other.
Rreagan007 (
talk) 22:15, 21 September 2023 (UTC)reply
OpposeWP:NOTDICTIONARY. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and does not need to set aside space for dictionary definitions. There is no other major alternate primary topic.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 20:50, 22 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support – Disambiguation works better for such terms. I'd do the same for
Nice.
Dicklyon (
talk) 00:32, 23 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. There is also Dutch economist
Esther-Mirjam Sent, by the way.
BD2412T 02:19, 23 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Note: I have gathered the hits together at
Sent (disambiguation), which can be swapped for this title. There are enough possibilities to convince me rather solidly on this one.
BD2412T 02:30, 23 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Again, none of these are possible primary topics. SENT falls under
WP:DIFFCAPS.
Sent (novel) is not notable.
Esther-Mirjam Sent is not notable enough to be known on a last name basis, and would fall under
WP:PTM.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 04:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Zxcvbnm:Esther-Mirjam Sent appears to have
a substantial publication history; I don't think it is at all clear that she is less notable by that name than a former place in Switzerland. In any case, all of these are frankly drowned out by the common use of the word as the past tense of "send".
WP:DICT doesn't require that we turn a blind eye to the overwhelmingly most common meaning of a word. Compare
Went,
Wrote.
BD2412T 04:52, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Wrote has a
WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT target; "sent" does not. For "went", primary appears to be the set index list of surnames, but there is only one person with the "sent" surname, so no list is merited. Therefore, this is not the same situation.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 04:58, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I have started
Draft:Sending to capture this topic. Cheers!
BD2412T 15:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom (and move the DAB page per above).
217.180.228.138 (
talk) 03:18, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose Unlike the other examples (went, wrote) there is no article for the word. Other topics are less significant, partial titles or use different capitalisation. And it's still a place, just not a municipality.
Peter James (
talk) 17:44, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Peter James: That is actually a concern.
Send is a disambiguation page and
Sending redirects to an obscure album, but the concept of "sending" (whether it be a person, a message, or an item) is deeply inculcated in human culture, and we may be missing a broad-concept article covering this concept.
BD2412T 19:20, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Maybe, but until then the naming should probably stay as-is. If a viable
WP:BROADCONCEPT page can be made I definitely support a primary redirect there.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 20:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom and Dicklyon, and create a disambiguation page --
67.70.25.175 (
talk) 05:11, 25 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support though
SENT (protocol) may not have as much long-term significance it has 1,548 views compared with only 194[
[1]] for the place and DIFFCAPS may not be too helpful if the protocol is sometimes "Sent". Crouch, Swale (
talk) 20:36, 25 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support only on the condition that an article on
sending be written that
sent will be able to redirect to.
RedSlash 22:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.