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Well done! This is a B. Copyright of song? Victuallers 10:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I think the page does a good job of talking about the school's athletic proficency, but I feel it makes the school look a little one-sided, anybody have any other good non-athletic achievements to add? Or how about some facts and write-ups about things like service or other community issues? -- Hutchk26 17:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Deleted the reference to where Merlin Murphy lives -- "Shaker Heights, a high-end suburb" -- irrelevent to the topic! Sounds like a real estate promotion. The Murphy's Oil Soap reference is tenuous at best to begin with... (irrelevant trivia)
Please add any that you know of. Especially desirable are non-athletic ones.
I'm not opposed to that idea, but the purpose of this section is really to highlight alumni that would be known to the majority of visitors to the page. Do you feel that Coach Kyle meets that criteria (serious question)? http://www.ignatius.edu/advancement/alumni/Awards/default.shtm This link may be of help.
I noticed that an edit war may be brewing over whether the mascot is "wildcat" or "wildcats". Personally, I've known it is the wildcat, not the plural. Perhaps it shouldn't be changed until a concensus is reached.- Hornandsoccer 21:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
The article as a whole lacks any references to outside sources. We must be reminded that Wikipedia has a no original research policy. This article, especially the athletic and academic achievement sections, need to cite sources in accordance with this policy. While I will attempt to locate the sources for the achievements (as a St. Edward grad this is hard for me to do!), it would probably be easiest for those who contributed to the material to do so. DrewAC07 02:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Just a thought, but whoever added the information on the arts programs was way over the top. Now, being a student who is involved in the arts programs, this is kind of odd. I know a few of these teachers very well. But, in the larger scope, who really cares what classes David Roth teaches or how amazing the faculty is. I would revert all of this myself, but considering its size and the fact that some of it should stay, I want to hear from others on this.- Hornandsoccer 14:12, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see this article reach Featured Article status. Before starting the process in earnest, I would like any comments on potential immediate improvement that can be made to the article before asking for a peer review. Thanks in advance!- Hornandsoccer 22:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I fixed all of the ignatius links. I think it would be a good idea to split the alumni section into its own article. I think it would be a good idea to mention a few on the ignatius page too, probably four or five. Murlan J. Murphy, Tim Mack, Brian K. Vaughan, and Anthony Gonzalez would be my four. Does anyone object or think that someone else should be in that group?- Hornandsoccer Contribs Talk 22:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Who is maintaining this page? There is a horribly biased slant towards arts and speech and debate. Whoever claims that atheletics are too stressed is greatly mistaken, because the first acolades to be lauded in this section are consistently from the arts program, the chorus, or speech and debate, which in my mind poorly represents the school. I feel more should be stressed on the amazing athletic acheivements of the past twenty years, including four national championships, and perhaps an article analyzing the extreme difficulty in academics at the school. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.149.15.217 ( talk) 18:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
If Murlan J. Murphy did not invent Murphy's Oil Soap (apparently his great grandfather did), why is he listed that way? EagleFan 15:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, we have a fair majority of the information in the article cited. The problem is that 60% of the cites are from the Ignatius website or from an Ignatius publication. This means that they do not qualify as independent sources of information, and therefore would not be acceptable in a review. I'm ok with leaving the information as is for the moment, but cites will need to be replaced with better, independent ones, as is possible. If this means that some information cannot be included under this policy, it may not be possible to get this article above a B-class ranking- Hornandsoccer Contribs Talk 05:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Iosef U T C 01:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed a link to the Warrior Rugby club. Here is the link. I removed the link because the club is not officially tied to the school, so much so that the club was forced to change its name from Wildcat Rugby to Warrior Rugby. Even if the club officially becomes part of the school, I think the link may be unnesseccary since links to the pages of individual school clubs seems slightly unencyclopedic. -- Wildnox (talk) 01:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
what about Pat Massey (Michigan), Jim Ramella (Boston college), Brian Neff (Brown University), and Kevin Koncelik (Miami Ohio) as notable alumni? All got full rides to play football.
Don't be hatin on tha cracks
71.74.237.164 ( talk) 04:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
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Well done! This is a B. Copyright of song? Victuallers 10:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I think the page does a good job of talking about the school's athletic proficency, but I feel it makes the school look a little one-sided, anybody have any other good non-athletic achievements to add? Or how about some facts and write-ups about things like service or other community issues? -- Hutchk26 17:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Deleted the reference to where Merlin Murphy lives -- "Shaker Heights, a high-end suburb" -- irrelevent to the topic! Sounds like a real estate promotion. The Murphy's Oil Soap reference is tenuous at best to begin with... (irrelevant trivia)
Please add any that you know of. Especially desirable are non-athletic ones.
I'm not opposed to that idea, but the purpose of this section is really to highlight alumni that would be known to the majority of visitors to the page. Do you feel that Coach Kyle meets that criteria (serious question)? http://www.ignatius.edu/advancement/alumni/Awards/default.shtm This link may be of help.
I noticed that an edit war may be brewing over whether the mascot is "wildcat" or "wildcats". Personally, I've known it is the wildcat, not the plural. Perhaps it shouldn't be changed until a concensus is reached.- Hornandsoccer 21:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
The article as a whole lacks any references to outside sources. We must be reminded that Wikipedia has a no original research policy. This article, especially the athletic and academic achievement sections, need to cite sources in accordance with this policy. While I will attempt to locate the sources for the achievements (as a St. Edward grad this is hard for me to do!), it would probably be easiest for those who contributed to the material to do so. DrewAC07 02:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Just a thought, but whoever added the information on the arts programs was way over the top. Now, being a student who is involved in the arts programs, this is kind of odd. I know a few of these teachers very well. But, in the larger scope, who really cares what classes David Roth teaches or how amazing the faculty is. I would revert all of this myself, but considering its size and the fact that some of it should stay, I want to hear from others on this.- Hornandsoccer 14:12, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see this article reach Featured Article status. Before starting the process in earnest, I would like any comments on potential immediate improvement that can be made to the article before asking for a peer review. Thanks in advance!- Hornandsoccer 22:03, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I fixed all of the ignatius links. I think it would be a good idea to split the alumni section into its own article. I think it would be a good idea to mention a few on the ignatius page too, probably four or five. Murlan J. Murphy, Tim Mack, Brian K. Vaughan, and Anthony Gonzalez would be my four. Does anyone object or think that someone else should be in that group?- Hornandsoccer Contribs Talk 22:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Who is maintaining this page? There is a horribly biased slant towards arts and speech and debate. Whoever claims that atheletics are too stressed is greatly mistaken, because the first acolades to be lauded in this section are consistently from the arts program, the chorus, or speech and debate, which in my mind poorly represents the school. I feel more should be stressed on the amazing athletic acheivements of the past twenty years, including four national championships, and perhaps an article analyzing the extreme difficulty in academics at the school. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.149.15.217 ( talk) 18:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
If Murlan J. Murphy did not invent Murphy's Oil Soap (apparently his great grandfather did), why is he listed that way? EagleFan 15:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, we have a fair majority of the information in the article cited. The problem is that 60% of the cites are from the Ignatius website or from an Ignatius publication. This means that they do not qualify as independent sources of information, and therefore would not be acceptable in a review. I'm ok with leaving the information as is for the moment, but cites will need to be replaced with better, independent ones, as is possible. If this means that some information cannot be included under this policy, it may not be possible to get this article above a B-class ranking- Hornandsoccer Contribs Talk 05:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Iosef U T C 01:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I removed a link to the Warrior Rugby club. Here is the link. I removed the link because the club is not officially tied to the school, so much so that the club was forced to change its name from Wildcat Rugby to Warrior Rugby. Even if the club officially becomes part of the school, I think the link may be unnesseccary since links to the pages of individual school clubs seems slightly unencyclopedic. -- Wildnox (talk) 01:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
what about Pat Massey (Michigan), Jim Ramella (Boston college), Brian Neff (Brown University), and Kevin Koncelik (Miami Ohio) as notable alumni? All got full rides to play football.
Don't be hatin on tha cracks
71.74.237.164 ( talk) 04:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)