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Thanks, Nunh-huh, for adding all those yucky vasculitides. Frankly, I hadn't taken the time to properly expand on that list. I'm on the lookout for a good review article on Wegener's granulomatosis before I have a go at that disease... JFW | T@lk 09:23, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
"Rheumatology is a sub-specialty in internal medicine and pediatrics, devoted to diagnosis and therapy of rheumatic diseases"
If you don't know what rheumatic is, you can't understand this sentence. If you do know what rheumatic is, you don't need to read this sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.106.159.190 ( talk) 14:33, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
I suggest this article be merged with Rheumatism, because they cover the same subject basically. What do you think? Mikael Häggström 19:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you very much in deed regarding the suggestion to merge two pages. Rheumatology is a medical specialty, where as rheumatism is a lay term. It is very difficult to merge them. We can always explain and define these terms in different sites. Rheumatology is a rapidly expanding medical specialty which needs regular updates. Two sites can be highlighted in each page and they can be linked in order to click and find more information regarding each category. It is important to maintain a site on rheumatism as well, as it is also a commonly used term. Readers can be guided and diverted from the page rheumatism to that of the rheumatology in order to obtain more scientific information on this topic.
Rheumatism is an archaic, colloquial word that has nothing to do with the actual medical field of rheumatology. They should not be merged or referenced together. The term itself arose prior to the modern understanding of many diseases that symptomatically were thought to be related but in the modern era are now know to be nothing related and are treated by vastly different specialities. Nuclearzenfire ( talk) 01:25, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
A citation is needed for this, I think, inprecise and misleading statement. Controlling a disease is not the same as curing it, and the new treatments will not help those in whom the disease is already well established. These pages are often a first hit for newly diagnosed patients, so it's important to make them correct and verifiable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.97.249 ( talk) 02:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
The article omits entirely to discuss the experiences of patients, or the clinical outcomes from treatment by Rheumatologists. While it may be true that some patients are helped, it is also true that many are not and some are severely harmed. The article is thus inaccurate and biassed. Rheumatologists' habitual practice of deliberately causing patients extreme pain- by applying pressure onto inflamed, sore joints- is identical to common assault, and should be mentioned; if only to warn new patients of what they face. Rheumatology cannot demonstrate its utility at all without reference to patients' experiences. Wiki should allow such perspectives space, instead of censoring them. There are more patients than doctors, and the content of Wiki should reflect the interests of this majority. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snonsk ( talk • contribs) 11:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
For some reason, "Immune System" is listed as the system. While rheumatology does have a lot of involvement with the immune system, that's more descriptive of immunology. Correct me if I'm wrong, despite rheumatology covering broad things such as vasculitis and systemic diseases (lupus), its main system is musculoskeletal -- and most of those other conditions are often treated due to their predominance of arthritic (and consequently, inflammatory and often auto-immune) conditions. CouchTomato ( talk) 01:52, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
I can see how you are confused, but immune system is the correct category. In (clinical) medicine, immunology tends to deal with diseases in which the immune system is too weak and thus patients with such diseases are more susceptible to infections, whereas in rheumatology the immune system is too strong/misguided and attacks the body leading to damage. Many of the rheumatological disease have nothing to do with the joints or muscles, symptomatically, and even when the symptoms are primarily in the joints, it is not the joint that is the problem but the immune system. The treatments modify/suppress the immune system. Problems with the joints/muscles proper are mechanical in nature and primarily managed by orthopedists and physiatrists. This is a very common misunderstanding as most people are unfamiliar with the medical (rather than colloquial) use of words such as "arthritis". Nuclearzenfire ( talk) 01:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Grammatical and spelling errors abound. Rambling and disjointed, often mentions anecdotal or unsubstantiated claims. Thought there would be a thread mentioning all of this, was surprised to not find one. 2603:7000:9507:B2BF:D4C3:7E1A:147D:BC01 ( talk) 19:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Rheumatologist 2A02:C7C:5B35:2600:CD9C:143E:60CD:7F99 ( talk) 19:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
An actual, English-speaking Rheumatologist needs to write this article. It makes no sense. 45.46.132.242 ( talk) 04:03, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks, Nunh-huh, for adding all those yucky vasculitides. Frankly, I hadn't taken the time to properly expand on that list. I'm on the lookout for a good review article on Wegener's granulomatosis before I have a go at that disease... JFW | T@lk 09:23, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
"Rheumatology is a sub-specialty in internal medicine and pediatrics, devoted to diagnosis and therapy of rheumatic diseases"
If you don't know what rheumatic is, you can't understand this sentence. If you do know what rheumatic is, you don't need to read this sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.106.159.190 ( talk) 14:33, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
I suggest this article be merged with Rheumatism, because they cover the same subject basically. What do you think? Mikael Häggström 19:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you very much in deed regarding the suggestion to merge two pages. Rheumatology is a medical specialty, where as rheumatism is a lay term. It is very difficult to merge them. We can always explain and define these terms in different sites. Rheumatology is a rapidly expanding medical specialty which needs regular updates. Two sites can be highlighted in each page and they can be linked in order to click and find more information regarding each category. It is important to maintain a site on rheumatism as well, as it is also a commonly used term. Readers can be guided and diverted from the page rheumatism to that of the rheumatology in order to obtain more scientific information on this topic.
Rheumatism is an archaic, colloquial word that has nothing to do with the actual medical field of rheumatology. They should not be merged or referenced together. The term itself arose prior to the modern understanding of many diseases that symptomatically were thought to be related but in the modern era are now know to be nothing related and are treated by vastly different specialities. Nuclearzenfire ( talk) 01:25, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
A citation is needed for this, I think, inprecise and misleading statement. Controlling a disease is not the same as curing it, and the new treatments will not help those in whom the disease is already well established. These pages are often a first hit for newly diagnosed patients, so it's important to make them correct and verifiable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.97.249 ( talk) 02:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
The article omits entirely to discuss the experiences of patients, or the clinical outcomes from treatment by Rheumatologists. While it may be true that some patients are helped, it is also true that many are not and some are severely harmed. The article is thus inaccurate and biassed. Rheumatologists' habitual practice of deliberately causing patients extreme pain- by applying pressure onto inflamed, sore joints- is identical to common assault, and should be mentioned; if only to warn new patients of what they face. Rheumatology cannot demonstrate its utility at all without reference to patients' experiences. Wiki should allow such perspectives space, instead of censoring them. There are more patients than doctors, and the content of Wiki should reflect the interests of this majority. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snonsk ( talk • contribs) 11:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
For some reason, "Immune System" is listed as the system. While rheumatology does have a lot of involvement with the immune system, that's more descriptive of immunology. Correct me if I'm wrong, despite rheumatology covering broad things such as vasculitis and systemic diseases (lupus), its main system is musculoskeletal -- and most of those other conditions are often treated due to their predominance of arthritic (and consequently, inflammatory and often auto-immune) conditions. CouchTomato ( talk) 01:52, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
I can see how you are confused, but immune system is the correct category. In (clinical) medicine, immunology tends to deal with diseases in which the immune system is too weak and thus patients with such diseases are more susceptible to infections, whereas in rheumatology the immune system is too strong/misguided and attacks the body leading to damage. Many of the rheumatological disease have nothing to do with the joints or muscles, symptomatically, and even when the symptoms are primarily in the joints, it is not the joint that is the problem but the immune system. The treatments modify/suppress the immune system. Problems with the joints/muscles proper are mechanical in nature and primarily managed by orthopedists and physiatrists. This is a very common misunderstanding as most people are unfamiliar with the medical (rather than colloquial) use of words such as "arthritis". Nuclearzenfire ( talk) 01:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Grammatical and spelling errors abound. Rambling and disjointed, often mentions anecdotal or unsubstantiated claims. Thought there would be a thread mentioning all of this, was surprised to not find one. 2603:7000:9507:B2BF:D4C3:7E1A:147D:BC01 ( talk) 19:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Rheumatologist 2A02:C7C:5B35:2600:CD9C:143E:60CD:7F99 ( talk) 19:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
An actual, English-speaking Rheumatologist needs to write this article. It makes no sense. 45.46.132.242 ( talk) 04:03, 25 September 2022 (UTC)