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Nikola Smolenski (Talk) (→Miscellaneous - Why would BH banknote be in article on RS?)
Anwswer: The BH banknote is the official currency of the RS. Furthermore this particular banknote featuring Brank Copic is the RS edition of the BH 50KM banknote. Stop removing it.
To some, the name and insignia of Republika Srpska are inherently intolerant towards other Bosnians and evoke very negative connotations of war-time problems for them. Is there a need for this. Is this very neutral? The very image of a "bosnian muslim" state, flag, insignia makes me want to vommit, but is that listed here? This is about Republika Srpska and not about the muslims. -- Milan20 04:55, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I think the reason for this is that the court case was filed in BH constitutional court recently that asks for the change of the name and insignia of Republika Srpska. In fact for similar complaints Bosnian independence flag was abolished. --
Dado 18:08, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Frankly, this entire page is a disastrous mess. The bulk of the entry is neither correct, nor neutral, nor objective. It is is constantly peppered with rank irrelevancies and attacks upon one side or the other as well as irrelevant characterizations of some of the historical figures. Even this discussion page contains this sort of clearly absurd and non-neutral commentary (see 67.95.81.62's comments below). To make matters worse, the page has been freely edited by people who have, at best, a secondary understanding of the English language, as demonstrated by prodigious errors in spelling, grammar and diction - particularly when an insult or POV about the history of Bosnia is being expressed. It is worth working on the page by one or two people who are prepared to objectively repair this page. Please leave a mesage at my page if you would like to work with me to fix this (and some related pages). As it stands, this page is basically useless for anyone seeking information on the political entities in question.
-- Nicodemus75 09:17, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
If I wish to "organize" a discussion about something on my own talk page, that is my preorgative. This is a perfect example of a page that people may wish to have seperate conversation considering the amount of non-neutral POV nonsense that has infiltrated the main article as well as the talk page. -- Nicodemus75 07:53, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The Republic was formed by the Serbs of Bosnia-Herzegovina in 1992 after being disenfranchised by the joint Muslim-Croat political and later military alliance in Bosnia.
This is hardly an objective description of what happened, as I am sure you know. Adam 04:07, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I am sorry, but the disenfranchised comment is neither neutral nor correct - if a 67% majority including many Serbs voted for independence in a multi-ethnic state how is that disenfranchising Bosnian Serbs?
Regarding the top-level domain (TLD) -- the web page www.rs.sr seems to talk about getting the .SR TLD for the Entity (I don't read Cyrillic too well), but that's not done and .RS.SR is a second-level domain. Given that there's also .RS.BA, that both seem to be commercial entities, and that the institutions of are not using either, I doubt that either really qualify for an official listing... -- Shallot 17:07, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)
To expand a little bit about this, there seems to be a lack of consensus as to where the RS pages should be located. There's vladars.net and predsjednikrs.net for the government and the president, but the securities commission is at khov-rs.org, the constitutional court is at ustavnisud.org, the privatization direction is at rsprivatizacija.com, chamber of commerce at pkrs.inecco.net, the statistics institute is at rzs.rs.ba, and the customs administration is at rucrs.com. The city of Banja Luka is at banjaluka.rs.ba, the university is at urc.bl.ac.yu, and etfbl.net is the electrotechnics faculty. Overall, there's still way too much diversity to list any domain as official. -- Shallot 20:46, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
It seems that SARNET, the academic network of RS, is the .rs.ba NIC, and that's usually a step in making a domain the official one. However, they're not actually consistent in using it, since google still finds them primarily at sarnet.bl.ac.yu, and there's no redirection from there to sarnet.rs.ba. -- Joy [shallot]
I've also noticed that the Radio Television company of RS is at rtrs.tv or rtrs-bl.com. -- Joy [shallot]
This page also has a few more, and also mostly .org and whatnot. -- Joy [shallot] 22:41, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I returned older text as User:TOttenville8 says that he was unable to purchase these stamps in San Francisco. I found no mention online of this. Rmhermen 13:46, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=srpska&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&from=R10&BasicSearch= Igor
...doesn't it stand for Suriname, not Serbia? Just a cyberfreak out here...
Greetings, Muhamed
Republic of Serbs needs to be taken from all the maps and documents, since it is a fashist state, created by war criminals, and by force against a civil population of Bosnia (Croats and Bosnian Muslims), it was created as a part of dictatorship idea of creation of greater Serbia. If Serbs are not happy to live with other nationalities in Bosnia they should move to Serbia. Milosevic is a war criminal as well as his communist JNA (Yugoslav People's Army) did this with help of the nationalist Bosnian serbs. John
Dear John, Serbs and Croats have been living there since 6th century when their tribes came to Balcan. So called Muslims or Bosniaks are actually(mostly) those Serbs and Croats that were islamised during Othoman empire and been living with turkish masters for 500 years of occupation. Please go read history of Balcan(books before war recomended). Officially Muslims have been invented in 1968 and Bosniaks in 1993. Think why they called themself muslims with big M? I call this crisis of identity.
Btw Croats also had their state called Herceg-Bosna that is suposed to became part of Great Croatia, Croats also fighted with Muslims and Muslims also fighted Muslims especially in around Cazin and Bihac. And it's even more complicated, but it's too much to write...
Well said John. This so called Republic of Serbs is a product of ethnical cleansing and should be dismantled. It is a byproduct of Dayton Peace Accord and de facto it is award for the crimes that Serbian forces committed against Bosnian non-Serb population. Existence of this un-natural state, which turned segregation into the law of the land, is a major cause of instability in a region.
According to the webpage of the Republika Srpska government, the Constitutional amendment LXXI provides that "the official languages are the Serbian language, Croatian language and Bosnian language, refered to by the Constitution as Bosniak language", replacing paragraph 1. of article 7. of the RS Constitution. Would someone please correct the article and the adjoining table? Thx, Muhamedmesic 16:09, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
It's not really relevant, but here it comes: according to the Constitutional Court of Bosnia and Herzegovina and this Republika Srpska source of news, the names of several renamed towns and municipalities in Republika Srpska, including Srbinje (previously Foca), Srpsko Sarajevo (previously Lukavica), Srpski Drvar (previously Drvar), Srpski Sanski Most (previously Sanski Most), Srpski Mostar (previously part of Mostar Municipality), Srpski Kljuc (previously Kljuc), Srpska Kostajnica (previously Bosanska Kostajnica), Srpski Brod (previously Bosanski Brod), and a couple others (to spare you of the list) are unconstitutional and must be accordingly changed in the appropriate RS law. Until that is done, the court has reversed their names to their 1992 ones.
Republika Srpska government has a page that shows the present status of municipality names. Follow this link to track the changes
Its good that there is now a map on this article. However the map is faulty in that shows the Brcko district as part of Republika Srpska. Whatsmore it isnt of the best quality. If someone has the time Id suggest editing one of the maps I made on the Bosnia and Herzegovina page on Bosnian wiki [1]. Asim Led 04:30, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The map is not false because it portrays the entity in its entirety - including the Republika Srpska territory within the Brcko District. Claim that the Brcko District is not part of either the Federation or Republika Srpska might de facto be true (that is how things are run on the ground), but de iure it is false. If the Brcko District was not part of either entity, this would imply that the District is in fact the third entity. This would be a major breach of the general framework of the Dayton peace agreement (and Bosnia-Herzegovina constitution), which states that the country is internally composed of only two entities. Also, the Brcko District as 'not part of either entity' would make the territorial formula agreed at Dayton (49% of Bosnia-Herzegovina as Republika Srpska, 51% as Federation) unworkable. OHR, Office of the High Representative, provided a clarification on the status of the Brcko District, stating that the District is in fact a condominium of both entities. This would mean that the territory of the District is shared by both entities, although the entities exercise no executive power there. In other words, the Brcko District territory is both Republika Srpska and the Federation. Technically, this would apply to the whole territory of the District - in that way, there is no third entity, and 49-51% formula is (somehow) preserved. That said, it should be pointed out that the Brcko District was proclaimed on the whole territory of the prewar Brcko municipality. According to the Dayton map, 42% of the prewar Brcko municipality (including the town of Brcko) ended up in the Republika Srpska (this is the District territory marked on the Republika Srpska map in the article), while 58% of the prewar Brcko municipality ended up in the Federation (this part of the District is not marked on the map). Although the Brcko District was proclaimed in 1999, IEBL (Inter Entity Boundary Line) within its territory was never officially abolished; IEBL plays no administrative function within the District, except to mark the line beyond which the Bosnian Serb Army (Vojska Republike Srpske) traveling through the District can not go. Thus, it remains unclear how the entities hold the condominium over the whole District if the IEBL still exists on the books, and the District was created out of uneven chunks of both entity's territory. Given the fact that the Republika Srpska never officially accepted the arbitration result (one of the reasons IEBL was never officially abolished), the only solution is to show the Republika Srpska territory within the Brcko District (42% of it) on the Republika Srpska entity map, but color it differently (as done on the article map). The same formula should be used vis-à-vis the Federation territory within the Brcko District (58% of it) on the Federation entity map. When you put all of this together, you have a map of Bosnia-Herzegovina showing only two entities but also acknowledging the existence of the Brcko District - the neutral position.
p.s.
The 'condominium' idea is demonstrated by the way in which people declare themselves within the District. Citizens of the District have a right to hold entity citizenship of either Republika Srpska or the Federation, and have the right to vote on their entity's elections, although they are banned from serving in either entity's army.
I would completely agree that this page needs a major overhaul especially in light of the most recent events in BH and RS. There should be some system of relevance and priority of information. How do information about postage stamps find their place at the top of the historical facts of the article is beyond me. Other items need to be updated: RS's ministry of internal affairs (police) and ministry of defense (military) were abolished in mid Dec of 2004 and integrated with BH ministries, I also believe that the customs department was integrated with BH although I cannot confirm this. These items should be replaced and moveed if anywhere than in the "History" portion of the article. "On the Internet" part of the article is laughable and useless, and a case point of how POV's go awry. I can begin making some changes but want to have a concensus before any of the changes get reverted.-- Dado 02:52, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Dado, thanks for some support in terms of the need to overhaul this article. It definitely needs to be a collaborative effort for a variety of reasons. With respect to internet domain names, please be serious - it is a footnote at best and the amount of space dedicated to it in this article is completely laughable - unsettled or not. The postage stamp issue is equally absurd when compared to virtually any other country or similar political zone with a page on wikipedia. In response to Joy's "side note", the reason why this 'trend' is cropping up, is because of the amount of work required on a page which has been so poorly written and subjected to POV and non-neutral contribution, is so incredibly massive, that even experienced contributors have grown tired of investing time and energy into pages which will be subjected to revert wars and vandalism, without a collaborative effort and some concensus. I actually think this would be obvious given some of the revert wars that have and continue to plague wikipedia. Collaboration and discussion prior to investing hours of time and effort on an article such as this one, are necessary to prevent wasted time and duplication of labor. -- Nicodemus75 08:05, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Joy, thanks for taking time to make the changes. I wanted to have this discussion before this major change took place so that there is an evident trail of thought behind the revision. I will contribute to the article as needed from this point on.-- Dado 18:49, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The RS is poor, among the lowest GDPs in Europe, a fact. Why then does one receive the impression that the infrastructure is highly developed and living standards high by looking at the photos included into the article? It is obvious then that they constitute an attempt to portray the RS as more charming and enticing than what it is, i.e. touristic promotion of a developmental country with developmental living standards. It is misleading and the cities of RS should be presented in photos that are representative of the living conditions, which are unfortunately among the worst in Europe and Bosnia. Hence, I hereby declare my intention to change a large part of the current photos for more representative ones. I would appreciate help. / Dragan — Preceding unsigned comment added by DraganNiksic ( talk • contribs) 10:12, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Who take care of this thread? Why photo of Milorad Dodik is removed? Why there are not photos of Monastery of Dobrun, ethno village Stanisic and some other goods of the Republic of Srpska? Extend this thread but good way! 109.121.39.201 ( talk) 17:14, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Sadly, lots of our articles on the human geography of the Balkans have a problem; people change numbers around. Even apparently-sourced numbers sometimes disagree with what the source says. We have that problem here. This is supposed to be an encyclopædia; we shouldn't be serving content to readers if it can't be trusted, so I tried to remove it. It is unfortunate that this edit got reverted even though some of the numbers don't match what the source says. If anybody else is able to build accurate sourced content without adult supervision, then I would welcome it, but just lazily hitting the revert button to add stuff which isn't true is a Bad Thing. bobrayner ( talk) 18:09, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
There is no requirement to remove lists of settlements presented on account of the fact that there is "no source". This page is about an entity and the population listings support the entity but no reader needs a complete list of citations for each town size. It merely clutters the article with information not directly concerning the subject. You simply wikilink the items and the reader can follow the lead for himself, and anyone who discovers a wrong entry per sources on the article, well he can change those parts when required. Evlekis (Евлекис) ( argue) 11:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
When it comes to population figures, even the welter of sources themselves are at odds. If you can show me which source you are using then I have no problem with filling in the numbers per that citation. Large areas covering multiple towns and cities need a guide to report sizes of settlements and most pages have them. Many are well presented such as the Macedonian entry [2]. I see no reason we cannot do the same here. As for figures not matching exactly those listed on the source at the top of the section, no user is satisfied as to why the person who spots this does not rectify the problem but instead wipes the entire section. Evlekis (Евлекис) ( argue) 19:26, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Why the category "former" unrecognised countries? It is still not recognised. -- Oddeivind ( talk) 07:37, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
First of all, let me say it is not my wish to offend anyone. I know this is a sensitive issue and that it arouses a lot of emotions. That said, an encyclopaedia should, as far as possible, reflect the truth and be factually accurate.
The last census on the territory of today's Bosnia and Herzegovina was conducted in 1991, as part of the last federal Yugoslavian census. That census counted and recorded Muslims by nationality and not Bosniaks. The rights and wrongs of that are not the issue, the issue is that is what was recorded. Previous censuses (i.e. Turkish and Austrian ones) classified the population according to religion. We can debate that in interpret that in various ways, but we cannot retroactively change the source data.
In addition, there is nothing to back up the assumption that if someone identified as a Muslim by nationality in 1991, that at the time they meant anything else (i.e. Bosniak), or that they necessarily consider themselves a Bosniak now. We have a testbed for that in Serbia and Montenegro, where the people who were counted as Muslims by nationality in 1991 now mostly identify as Bosniaks, but some still as Muslims by nationality, and indeed some as Montenegrins etc.
All of this is up for debate. The only thing that is not a matter of debate, but hard fact, are the recorded results of the 1991 census. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.237.225 ( talk) 09:18, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
You are very good at recognising every POV as subjective, apart from your own :) Don't worry, I won't change it back - but I'm sure someone else will pick up on this some other time. Don't stress yourself too much. Pozdrav iz Srpske Republike. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.110.61 ( talk) 04:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Originally we had the following information:
It had been tagged as needing citation and then a Judah source was added, but with it came a remark and there have been several attempts to restore this comment:
I have not removed the source but I have taken out this "blog report" style. Firstly this article is about an existing geographical entity. The paragraphs concerning this content merely focus on parts of the population rising and others falling. The points about the difficulties returnees face when they are not Serb is fine for inclusion, but this graphic description of what Serb irregulars did belongs primarily on the Bosnian war article, and more so (if articles have been created) on the actual operations where the Serb forces defeated their opponents because burning and looting of homes/killing on the spot normally takes place in the aftermath of a victorious battle (taking over a neighbourhood, village, settlement, etc). I insist that it must be kept off this paragraph, the fact that it is mentioned in the source doesn't make it relevant (we're not going to rewrite Judah's entire book).
Zavtek (
talk) 19:01, 13 November 2013 (UTC) Striking out
sockpuppet.
bobrayner (
talk) 00:05, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
I recently travelled to Bosnia by car from Croatia and noticed that bilingual signs welcoming visitors on internal borders of Srpska with Brčko District read "Welcome to Republic of Srpska" in English. Also, its official government page renders the name as "Republic of Srpska". The same English-language rendering is used at the national assembly page, the president's website and many other state institutions, such as Republic of Srpska Investment Bank, Republic of Srpska tax administration, Archive of Republic of Srpska, Museum of Republic of Srpska, etc. So this is obviously the official rendering in English. So how about moving the article to Republic of Srpska? Timbouctou ( talk) 02:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that the mostly used (main) language in Republika Srpska is serbian and thats why I think it should be mentioned first in the infobox if we need to mention this languages individually. I could also very well live with the version before 28 of May where it was just Serbo-Croatian. In the end its all the same anyway, but thats my pov. Kind regards Seader ( talk) 18:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Your opinion is one thing, but the facts is facts:
Please, read the Constitution of the Republika Srpska, and then you can change something:
Article 7:
Paragraph 1 of Article 7 has been replaced by Amendment LXXI, reading as follows:
The official languages in Republika Srpska are: the language of the Serb people, the language of the Bosniac people and the language of the Croat people. The official scripts are the Cyrillic script and the Latinic script.
In regions populated by other national communities, their languages and scripts shall also be in official use, as determined by law.
Everything, what you said is just yours opinions. However, it is much less important in relation to the facts, and the facts are the text of the Constitution - (Article 7).
Here is the end of the story, and yours and my opinion is only opinions. -- CarRadovan ( talk) 12:03, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
If the Constitution was written that the sky is green, then we should be here to write the Constitution says that the sky is green, ... but we can in note can put that's position of the Constitution. -- CarRadovan ( talk) 13:11, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
I recommend the removal of the map which shows countries in red where the Republic maintains an office. It overstates the significance as eg. Russia showing a large land mass on a world map simply because a contentious office is maintained in the country. Such map hardly contributes to regional harmony, or at least over dramatises the office. In a word, the map is meaningless.
Discussion at
Talk:Serbian_Cyrillic_alphabet#Serbian_Cyrillic_script_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina, with the question "Should the name of Serbian Cyrillic script in Bosnia and Herzegovina-related articles (predominantly Republika Srpska-related articles) be simply "Cyrillic"?"--
Zoupan 02:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC) Blocked sock:
Ajdebre.
There was a recent edit saying the country was formed on genocide, which is a bit biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VCS777 ( talk • contribs) 20:22, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
The current first sentence of the article defines Republika Srpska as an "administrative entity". However, this term is not grounded in the constitution of neither Bosnia and Herzegovina nor of Republika Srpska. The Bosnian constitution speaks merely about "entities". In addition, entities have "administrative units" (article III, paragraph 3b), implying that an entity is not an administrative unit itself. The constitution of Republika Srpska defines RS as a "constitutional-legal entity" (ustavno-pravni entitet). I therefore believe the term "administrative entity" is incorrect and should be replaced either by "entity" or by "constitutional-legal entity". BlueRoar ( talk) 13:54, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
There's a footnote c in the infobox but I don't see a superscript c anywhere. -- 71.183.137.40 ( talk) 00:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Results of the most recent population census in Bosnia-Herzegovina (from 2013) for the entity level (Republika Srpska) have been officially published on March 22, 2017. Here they are (note: not in English): http://www.rtrs.tv/vijesti/vijest.php?id=246918 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.82.108.36 ( talk) 17:03, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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@ Sadko: I don’t think BiH is an entity like Republika Srpska. One is a country, the other an entity within. Not sure what was meant by fair here? Unless by other Entity you mean Herzegovina? Because Bosnia and Herzegovina is the name of the country I thought. OyMosby ( talk) 21:19, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
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First of all, I think it is more appropriate to replace the portraits of convicted war criminals with a war monument and memorials. The map I added is more comprehensive and more appropriate one for the article and the main topic. The photo of the Genocide Memorial Site is more appropriate for the content of the section. I see no reason why anyone would have a problem with this.-- WEBDuB ( talk) 15:46, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Sadko:, I see you removed this paragraph [3]. That drove my attention to the rest of the article that describes history of Republika Srpska as it existed from medieval times (it's poorly written mostly, I'm not implying anything). Would you agree if you removed statement above, a lot of other paragraphs could be removed and shortened? -- Mhare ( talk) 12:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Sadko then why are you deleting about the Chetniks? If it says that the Croats did it then you would leave it, like this from NDH Second World War or everything you write against other peoples in the area that can be read from your editing . This is not a Serbian wikipedia that Serbian crimes can be hidden and only that other crimes be written. 93.136.97.142 ( talk) 14:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Following the outbreak of World War II and the invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, Republika Srpska fell under the rule of the Nazi puppet statesome parts have to be corrected as they treat Srpska as a defined geographical entity before the 1990s.-- Maleschreiber ( talk) 02:23, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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Nikola Smolenski (Talk) (→Miscellaneous - Why would BH banknote be in article on RS?)
Anwswer: The BH banknote is the official currency of the RS. Furthermore this particular banknote featuring Brank Copic is the RS edition of the BH 50KM banknote. Stop removing it.
To some, the name and insignia of Republika Srpska are inherently intolerant towards other Bosnians and evoke very negative connotations of war-time problems for them. Is there a need for this. Is this very neutral? The very image of a "bosnian muslim" state, flag, insignia makes me want to vommit, but is that listed here? This is about Republika Srpska and not about the muslims. -- Milan20 04:55, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I think the reason for this is that the court case was filed in BH constitutional court recently that asks for the change of the name and insignia of Republika Srpska. In fact for similar complaints Bosnian independence flag was abolished. --
Dado 18:08, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Frankly, this entire page is a disastrous mess. The bulk of the entry is neither correct, nor neutral, nor objective. It is is constantly peppered with rank irrelevancies and attacks upon one side or the other as well as irrelevant characterizations of some of the historical figures. Even this discussion page contains this sort of clearly absurd and non-neutral commentary (see 67.95.81.62's comments below). To make matters worse, the page has been freely edited by people who have, at best, a secondary understanding of the English language, as demonstrated by prodigious errors in spelling, grammar and diction - particularly when an insult or POV about the history of Bosnia is being expressed. It is worth working on the page by one or two people who are prepared to objectively repair this page. Please leave a mesage at my page if you would like to work with me to fix this (and some related pages). As it stands, this page is basically useless for anyone seeking information on the political entities in question.
-- Nicodemus75 09:17, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
If I wish to "organize" a discussion about something on my own talk page, that is my preorgative. This is a perfect example of a page that people may wish to have seperate conversation considering the amount of non-neutral POV nonsense that has infiltrated the main article as well as the talk page. -- Nicodemus75 07:53, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The Republic was formed by the Serbs of Bosnia-Herzegovina in 1992 after being disenfranchised by the joint Muslim-Croat political and later military alliance in Bosnia.
This is hardly an objective description of what happened, as I am sure you know. Adam 04:07, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I am sorry, but the disenfranchised comment is neither neutral nor correct - if a 67% majority including many Serbs voted for independence in a multi-ethnic state how is that disenfranchising Bosnian Serbs?
Regarding the top-level domain (TLD) -- the web page www.rs.sr seems to talk about getting the .SR TLD for the Entity (I don't read Cyrillic too well), but that's not done and .RS.SR is a second-level domain. Given that there's also .RS.BA, that both seem to be commercial entities, and that the institutions of are not using either, I doubt that either really qualify for an official listing... -- Shallot 17:07, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)
To expand a little bit about this, there seems to be a lack of consensus as to where the RS pages should be located. There's vladars.net and predsjednikrs.net for the government and the president, but the securities commission is at khov-rs.org, the constitutional court is at ustavnisud.org, the privatization direction is at rsprivatizacija.com, chamber of commerce at pkrs.inecco.net, the statistics institute is at rzs.rs.ba, and the customs administration is at rucrs.com. The city of Banja Luka is at banjaluka.rs.ba, the university is at urc.bl.ac.yu, and etfbl.net is the electrotechnics faculty. Overall, there's still way too much diversity to list any domain as official. -- Shallot 20:46, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
It seems that SARNET, the academic network of RS, is the .rs.ba NIC, and that's usually a step in making a domain the official one. However, they're not actually consistent in using it, since google still finds them primarily at sarnet.bl.ac.yu, and there's no redirection from there to sarnet.rs.ba. -- Joy [shallot]
I've also noticed that the Radio Television company of RS is at rtrs.tv or rtrs-bl.com. -- Joy [shallot]
This page also has a few more, and also mostly .org and whatnot. -- Joy [shallot] 22:41, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I returned older text as User:TOttenville8 says that he was unable to purchase these stamps in San Francisco. I found no mention online of this. Rmhermen 13:46, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=srpska&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&from=R10&BasicSearch= Igor
...doesn't it stand for Suriname, not Serbia? Just a cyberfreak out here...
Greetings, Muhamed
Republic of Serbs needs to be taken from all the maps and documents, since it is a fashist state, created by war criminals, and by force against a civil population of Bosnia (Croats and Bosnian Muslims), it was created as a part of dictatorship idea of creation of greater Serbia. If Serbs are not happy to live with other nationalities in Bosnia they should move to Serbia. Milosevic is a war criminal as well as his communist JNA (Yugoslav People's Army) did this with help of the nationalist Bosnian serbs. John
Dear John, Serbs and Croats have been living there since 6th century when their tribes came to Balcan. So called Muslims or Bosniaks are actually(mostly) those Serbs and Croats that were islamised during Othoman empire and been living with turkish masters for 500 years of occupation. Please go read history of Balcan(books before war recomended). Officially Muslims have been invented in 1968 and Bosniaks in 1993. Think why they called themself muslims with big M? I call this crisis of identity.
Btw Croats also had their state called Herceg-Bosna that is suposed to became part of Great Croatia, Croats also fighted with Muslims and Muslims also fighted Muslims especially in around Cazin and Bihac. And it's even more complicated, but it's too much to write...
Well said John. This so called Republic of Serbs is a product of ethnical cleansing and should be dismantled. It is a byproduct of Dayton Peace Accord and de facto it is award for the crimes that Serbian forces committed against Bosnian non-Serb population. Existence of this un-natural state, which turned segregation into the law of the land, is a major cause of instability in a region.
According to the webpage of the Republika Srpska government, the Constitutional amendment LXXI provides that "the official languages are the Serbian language, Croatian language and Bosnian language, refered to by the Constitution as Bosniak language", replacing paragraph 1. of article 7. of the RS Constitution. Would someone please correct the article and the adjoining table? Thx, Muhamedmesic 16:09, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
It's not really relevant, but here it comes: according to the Constitutional Court of Bosnia and Herzegovina and this Republika Srpska source of news, the names of several renamed towns and municipalities in Republika Srpska, including Srbinje (previously Foca), Srpsko Sarajevo (previously Lukavica), Srpski Drvar (previously Drvar), Srpski Sanski Most (previously Sanski Most), Srpski Mostar (previously part of Mostar Municipality), Srpski Kljuc (previously Kljuc), Srpska Kostajnica (previously Bosanska Kostajnica), Srpski Brod (previously Bosanski Brod), and a couple others (to spare you of the list) are unconstitutional and must be accordingly changed in the appropriate RS law. Until that is done, the court has reversed their names to their 1992 ones.
Republika Srpska government has a page that shows the present status of municipality names. Follow this link to track the changes
Its good that there is now a map on this article. However the map is faulty in that shows the Brcko district as part of Republika Srpska. Whatsmore it isnt of the best quality. If someone has the time Id suggest editing one of the maps I made on the Bosnia and Herzegovina page on Bosnian wiki [1]. Asim Led 04:30, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The map is not false because it portrays the entity in its entirety - including the Republika Srpska territory within the Brcko District. Claim that the Brcko District is not part of either the Federation or Republika Srpska might de facto be true (that is how things are run on the ground), but de iure it is false. If the Brcko District was not part of either entity, this would imply that the District is in fact the third entity. This would be a major breach of the general framework of the Dayton peace agreement (and Bosnia-Herzegovina constitution), which states that the country is internally composed of only two entities. Also, the Brcko District as 'not part of either entity' would make the territorial formula agreed at Dayton (49% of Bosnia-Herzegovina as Republika Srpska, 51% as Federation) unworkable. OHR, Office of the High Representative, provided a clarification on the status of the Brcko District, stating that the District is in fact a condominium of both entities. This would mean that the territory of the District is shared by both entities, although the entities exercise no executive power there. In other words, the Brcko District territory is both Republika Srpska and the Federation. Technically, this would apply to the whole territory of the District - in that way, there is no third entity, and 49-51% formula is (somehow) preserved. That said, it should be pointed out that the Brcko District was proclaimed on the whole territory of the prewar Brcko municipality. According to the Dayton map, 42% of the prewar Brcko municipality (including the town of Brcko) ended up in the Republika Srpska (this is the District territory marked on the Republika Srpska map in the article), while 58% of the prewar Brcko municipality ended up in the Federation (this part of the District is not marked on the map). Although the Brcko District was proclaimed in 1999, IEBL (Inter Entity Boundary Line) within its territory was never officially abolished; IEBL plays no administrative function within the District, except to mark the line beyond which the Bosnian Serb Army (Vojska Republike Srpske) traveling through the District can not go. Thus, it remains unclear how the entities hold the condominium over the whole District if the IEBL still exists on the books, and the District was created out of uneven chunks of both entity's territory. Given the fact that the Republika Srpska never officially accepted the arbitration result (one of the reasons IEBL was never officially abolished), the only solution is to show the Republika Srpska territory within the Brcko District (42% of it) on the Republika Srpska entity map, but color it differently (as done on the article map). The same formula should be used vis-à-vis the Federation territory within the Brcko District (58% of it) on the Federation entity map. When you put all of this together, you have a map of Bosnia-Herzegovina showing only two entities but also acknowledging the existence of the Brcko District - the neutral position.
p.s.
The 'condominium' idea is demonstrated by the way in which people declare themselves within the District. Citizens of the District have a right to hold entity citizenship of either Republika Srpska or the Federation, and have the right to vote on their entity's elections, although they are banned from serving in either entity's army.
I would completely agree that this page needs a major overhaul especially in light of the most recent events in BH and RS. There should be some system of relevance and priority of information. How do information about postage stamps find their place at the top of the historical facts of the article is beyond me. Other items need to be updated: RS's ministry of internal affairs (police) and ministry of defense (military) were abolished in mid Dec of 2004 and integrated with BH ministries, I also believe that the customs department was integrated with BH although I cannot confirm this. These items should be replaced and moveed if anywhere than in the "History" portion of the article. "On the Internet" part of the article is laughable and useless, and a case point of how POV's go awry. I can begin making some changes but want to have a concensus before any of the changes get reverted.-- Dado 02:52, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Dado, thanks for some support in terms of the need to overhaul this article. It definitely needs to be a collaborative effort for a variety of reasons. With respect to internet domain names, please be serious - it is a footnote at best and the amount of space dedicated to it in this article is completely laughable - unsettled or not. The postage stamp issue is equally absurd when compared to virtually any other country or similar political zone with a page on wikipedia. In response to Joy's "side note", the reason why this 'trend' is cropping up, is because of the amount of work required on a page which has been so poorly written and subjected to POV and non-neutral contribution, is so incredibly massive, that even experienced contributors have grown tired of investing time and energy into pages which will be subjected to revert wars and vandalism, without a collaborative effort and some concensus. I actually think this would be obvious given some of the revert wars that have and continue to plague wikipedia. Collaboration and discussion prior to investing hours of time and effort on an article such as this one, are necessary to prevent wasted time and duplication of labor. -- Nicodemus75 08:05, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Joy, thanks for taking time to make the changes. I wanted to have this discussion before this major change took place so that there is an evident trail of thought behind the revision. I will contribute to the article as needed from this point on.-- Dado 18:49, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The RS is poor, among the lowest GDPs in Europe, a fact. Why then does one receive the impression that the infrastructure is highly developed and living standards high by looking at the photos included into the article? It is obvious then that they constitute an attempt to portray the RS as more charming and enticing than what it is, i.e. touristic promotion of a developmental country with developmental living standards. It is misleading and the cities of RS should be presented in photos that are representative of the living conditions, which are unfortunately among the worst in Europe and Bosnia. Hence, I hereby declare my intention to change a large part of the current photos for more representative ones. I would appreciate help. / Dragan — Preceding unsigned comment added by DraganNiksic ( talk • contribs) 10:12, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Who take care of this thread? Why photo of Milorad Dodik is removed? Why there are not photos of Monastery of Dobrun, ethno village Stanisic and some other goods of the Republic of Srpska? Extend this thread but good way! 109.121.39.201 ( talk) 17:14, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Sadly, lots of our articles on the human geography of the Balkans have a problem; people change numbers around. Even apparently-sourced numbers sometimes disagree with what the source says. We have that problem here. This is supposed to be an encyclopædia; we shouldn't be serving content to readers if it can't be trusted, so I tried to remove it. It is unfortunate that this edit got reverted even though some of the numbers don't match what the source says. If anybody else is able to build accurate sourced content without adult supervision, then I would welcome it, but just lazily hitting the revert button to add stuff which isn't true is a Bad Thing. bobrayner ( talk) 18:09, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
There is no requirement to remove lists of settlements presented on account of the fact that there is "no source". This page is about an entity and the population listings support the entity but no reader needs a complete list of citations for each town size. It merely clutters the article with information not directly concerning the subject. You simply wikilink the items and the reader can follow the lead for himself, and anyone who discovers a wrong entry per sources on the article, well he can change those parts when required. Evlekis (Евлекис) ( argue) 11:45, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
When it comes to population figures, even the welter of sources themselves are at odds. If you can show me which source you are using then I have no problem with filling in the numbers per that citation. Large areas covering multiple towns and cities need a guide to report sizes of settlements and most pages have them. Many are well presented such as the Macedonian entry [2]. I see no reason we cannot do the same here. As for figures not matching exactly those listed on the source at the top of the section, no user is satisfied as to why the person who spots this does not rectify the problem but instead wipes the entire section. Evlekis (Евлекис) ( argue) 19:26, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Why the category "former" unrecognised countries? It is still not recognised. -- Oddeivind ( talk) 07:37, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
First of all, let me say it is not my wish to offend anyone. I know this is a sensitive issue and that it arouses a lot of emotions. That said, an encyclopaedia should, as far as possible, reflect the truth and be factually accurate.
The last census on the territory of today's Bosnia and Herzegovina was conducted in 1991, as part of the last federal Yugoslavian census. That census counted and recorded Muslims by nationality and not Bosniaks. The rights and wrongs of that are not the issue, the issue is that is what was recorded. Previous censuses (i.e. Turkish and Austrian ones) classified the population according to religion. We can debate that in interpret that in various ways, but we cannot retroactively change the source data.
In addition, there is nothing to back up the assumption that if someone identified as a Muslim by nationality in 1991, that at the time they meant anything else (i.e. Bosniak), or that they necessarily consider themselves a Bosniak now. We have a testbed for that in Serbia and Montenegro, where the people who were counted as Muslims by nationality in 1991 now mostly identify as Bosniaks, but some still as Muslims by nationality, and indeed some as Montenegrins etc.
All of this is up for debate. The only thing that is not a matter of debate, but hard fact, are the recorded results of the 1991 census. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.237.225 ( talk) 09:18, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
You are very good at recognising every POV as subjective, apart from your own :) Don't worry, I won't change it back - but I'm sure someone else will pick up on this some other time. Don't stress yourself too much. Pozdrav iz Srpske Republike. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.110.61 ( talk) 04:08, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Originally we had the following information:
It had been tagged as needing citation and then a Judah source was added, but with it came a remark and there have been several attempts to restore this comment:
I have not removed the source but I have taken out this "blog report" style. Firstly this article is about an existing geographical entity. The paragraphs concerning this content merely focus on parts of the population rising and others falling. The points about the difficulties returnees face when they are not Serb is fine for inclusion, but this graphic description of what Serb irregulars did belongs primarily on the Bosnian war article, and more so (if articles have been created) on the actual operations where the Serb forces defeated their opponents because burning and looting of homes/killing on the spot normally takes place in the aftermath of a victorious battle (taking over a neighbourhood, village, settlement, etc). I insist that it must be kept off this paragraph, the fact that it is mentioned in the source doesn't make it relevant (we're not going to rewrite Judah's entire book).
Zavtek (
talk) 19:01, 13 November 2013 (UTC) Striking out
sockpuppet.
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I recently travelled to Bosnia by car from Croatia and noticed that bilingual signs welcoming visitors on internal borders of Srpska with Brčko District read "Welcome to Republic of Srpska" in English. Also, its official government page renders the name as "Republic of Srpska". The same English-language rendering is used at the national assembly page, the president's website and many other state institutions, such as Republic of Srpska Investment Bank, Republic of Srpska tax administration, Archive of Republic of Srpska, Museum of Republic of Srpska, etc. So this is obviously the official rendering in English. So how about moving the article to Republic of Srpska? Timbouctou ( talk) 02:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that the mostly used (main) language in Republika Srpska is serbian and thats why I think it should be mentioned first in the infobox if we need to mention this languages individually. I could also very well live with the version before 28 of May where it was just Serbo-Croatian. In the end its all the same anyway, but thats my pov. Kind regards Seader ( talk) 18:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Your opinion is one thing, but the facts is facts:
Please, read the Constitution of the Republika Srpska, and then you can change something:
Article 7:
Paragraph 1 of Article 7 has been replaced by Amendment LXXI, reading as follows:
The official languages in Republika Srpska are: the language of the Serb people, the language of the Bosniac people and the language of the Croat people. The official scripts are the Cyrillic script and the Latinic script.
In regions populated by other national communities, their languages and scripts shall also be in official use, as determined by law.
Everything, what you said is just yours opinions. However, it is much less important in relation to the facts, and the facts are the text of the Constitution - (Article 7).
Here is the end of the story, and yours and my opinion is only opinions. -- CarRadovan ( talk) 12:03, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
If the Constitution was written that the sky is green, then we should be here to write the Constitution says that the sky is green, ... but we can in note can put that's position of the Constitution. -- CarRadovan ( talk) 13:11, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
I recommend the removal of the map which shows countries in red where the Republic maintains an office. It overstates the significance as eg. Russia showing a large land mass on a world map simply because a contentious office is maintained in the country. Such map hardly contributes to regional harmony, or at least over dramatises the office. In a word, the map is meaningless.
Discussion at
Talk:Serbian_Cyrillic_alphabet#Serbian_Cyrillic_script_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina, with the question "Should the name of Serbian Cyrillic script in Bosnia and Herzegovina-related articles (predominantly Republika Srpska-related articles) be simply "Cyrillic"?"--
Zoupan 02:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC) Blocked sock:
Ajdebre.
There was a recent edit saying the country was formed on genocide, which is a bit biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VCS777 ( talk • contribs) 20:22, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
The current first sentence of the article defines Republika Srpska as an "administrative entity". However, this term is not grounded in the constitution of neither Bosnia and Herzegovina nor of Republika Srpska. The Bosnian constitution speaks merely about "entities". In addition, entities have "administrative units" (article III, paragraph 3b), implying that an entity is not an administrative unit itself. The constitution of Republika Srpska defines RS as a "constitutional-legal entity" (ustavno-pravni entitet). I therefore believe the term "administrative entity" is incorrect and should be replaced either by "entity" or by "constitutional-legal entity". BlueRoar ( talk) 13:54, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
There's a footnote c in the infobox but I don't see a superscript c anywhere. -- 71.183.137.40 ( talk) 00:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Results of the most recent population census in Bosnia-Herzegovina (from 2013) for the entity level (Republika Srpska) have been officially published on March 22, 2017. Here they are (note: not in English): http://www.rtrs.tv/vijesti/vijest.php?id=246918 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.82.108.36 ( talk) 17:03, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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@ Sadko: I don’t think BiH is an entity like Republika Srpska. One is a country, the other an entity within. Not sure what was meant by fair here? Unless by other Entity you mean Herzegovina? Because Bosnia and Herzegovina is the name of the country I thought. OyMosby ( talk) 21:19, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
@ OyMosby: @ WEBDuB: We can have a discussion about the images here. cheers, Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 15:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
First of all, I think it is more appropriate to replace the portraits of convicted war criminals with a war monument and memorials. The map I added is more comprehensive and more appropriate one for the article and the main topic. The photo of the Genocide Memorial Site is more appropriate for the content of the section. I see no reason why anyone would have a problem with this.-- WEBDuB ( talk) 15:46, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Sadko:, I see you removed this paragraph [3]. That drove my attention to the rest of the article that describes history of Republika Srpska as it existed from medieval times (it's poorly written mostly, I'm not implying anything). Would you agree if you removed statement above, a lot of other paragraphs could be removed and shortened? -- Mhare ( talk) 12:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Sadko then why are you deleting about the Chetniks? If it says that the Croats did it then you would leave it, like this from NDH Second World War or everything you write against other peoples in the area that can be read from your editing . This is not a Serbian wikipedia that Serbian crimes can be hidden and only that other crimes be written. 93.136.97.142 ( talk) 14:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Following the outbreak of World War II and the invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, Republika Srpska fell under the rule of the Nazi puppet statesome parts have to be corrected as they treat Srpska as a defined geographical entity before the 1990s.-- Maleschreiber ( talk) 02:23, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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