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Sorry Dragula, I can't accept your edit of this article as it now stands -- you keep harping on this Alexandre del Valle character, even though he isn't the one who popularized the term, or caused it to spread into English, and you don't even have any particularly solid evidence that he invented it. I never heard of him before you dragged him out of his apparently well-deserved obscurity. Furthermore, the definition in the first paragraph is not acceptable, because it gives one single meaning which is by no means the only possible meaning of this phrase. AnonMoos
P.S. Why can't you discuss any political subject without launching into your little "warbloggers are bad people" jihad? There's not even any necessary connection between concern over anti-semitism and advocating the invasion of Iraq anyway, and when you collapse all distinction between these two things, then you're drastically oversimplifying the positions of those whose politics you don't like. AnonMoos 01:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
P.P.S. If you can't read the French language, then why not just accept your limitations in that respect, instead of trying to use the rather dubious link http://www.info-turc.org/article522.html to make up for this? AnonMoos 01:38, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Dragula 09:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
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The third paragraph of this article is really about Alexandre del Valle, not about the RGB Alliance. The bibliographical references can be kept and put elsewhere, but the paragraph as such is polemical and poorly documented, based on a single, equally polemical article that predates 9/11 and the reassesment of Islamism that happened thereafter.
HenrikRClausen ( talk) 16:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Additionally, del Valle has, since the year 2000 article mentioned above, extensively revised his opinion on the United States and its role in world politics, as noted also on his personal page [ del Valle].
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Can we get some confirmation that the symbolism isn't the more intuitive red=socialists/communists/leftists, Green=Islamists, Brown=nationalists/"brownshirts?" 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 155.49.137.37 ( talk) 14:51, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Why does " Campism" redirect to this article, yet the term "Campism" is mentioned nowhere in the current version of this article? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 00:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Far-right extremists and neo-nazi movements might like this colour, I strongly doubt that most current "far-right" parties in the western world have anything to do with facism and Hitlerism. Especially given the many left-wing causes of fascism such as collectivism, big government, welfare state, socialist economy, atheism. Mussolini has been a member of the Socialist party of Italy until 1914. To link a far-right position to being Hitlerite or Mussolini is a classical case of a straw man fallacy argument. 93.206.52.103 ( talk) 22:22, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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Sorry Dragula, I can't accept your edit of this article as it now stands -- you keep harping on this Alexandre del Valle character, even though he isn't the one who popularized the term, or caused it to spread into English, and you don't even have any particularly solid evidence that he invented it. I never heard of him before you dragged him out of his apparently well-deserved obscurity. Furthermore, the definition in the first paragraph is not acceptable, because it gives one single meaning which is by no means the only possible meaning of this phrase. AnonMoos
P.S. Why can't you discuss any political subject without launching into your little "warbloggers are bad people" jihad? There's not even any necessary connection between concern over anti-semitism and advocating the invasion of Iraq anyway, and when you collapse all distinction between these two things, then you're drastically oversimplifying the positions of those whose politics you don't like. AnonMoos 01:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
P.P.S. If you can't read the French language, then why not just accept your limitations in that respect, instead of trying to use the rather dubious link http://www.info-turc.org/article522.html to make up for this? AnonMoos 01:38, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Dragula 09:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Dragula 09:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Find sources:聽 Google ( books聽路 news聽路 scholar聽路 free images聽路 WP聽refs)聽路 FENS聽路 JSTOR聽路 TWL
The third paragraph of this article is really about Alexandre del Valle, not about the RGB Alliance. The bibliographical references can be kept and put elsewhere, but the paragraph as such is polemical and poorly documented, based on a single, equally polemical article that predates 9/11 and the reassesment of Islamism that happened thereafter.
HenrikRClausen ( talk) 16:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Additionally, del Valle has, since the year 2000 article mentioned above, extensively revised his opinion on the United States and its role in world politics, as noted also on his personal page [ del Valle].
HenrikRClausen ( talk) 16:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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Can we get some confirmation that the symbolism isn't the more intuitive red=socialists/communists/leftists, Green=Islamists, Brown=nationalists/"brownshirts?" 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by 155.49.137.37 ( talk) 14:51, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Why does " Campism" redirect to this article, yet the term "Campism" is mentioned nowhere in the current version of this article? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 00:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Far-right extremists and neo-nazi movements might like this colour, I strongly doubt that most current "far-right" parties in the western world have anything to do with facism and Hitlerism. Especially given the many left-wing causes of fascism such as collectivism, big government, welfare state, socialist economy, atheism. Mussolini has been a member of the Socialist party of Italy until 1914. To link a far-right position to being Hitlerite or Mussolini is a classical case of a straw man fallacy argument. 93.206.52.103 ( talk) 22:22, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
The redirect Campism has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 11 搂聽Campism until a consensus is reached. 鈥 Red-tailed聽hawk聽 (nest) 03:01, 11 August 2023 (UTC)