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A fact from Puyallup people appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 April 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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... that the Puyallup people traditionally
took ritual sweat baths before gambling and hunting, after intercourse, childbirth, and murder, and as a sport? Source: Referencing the second paragraph of the Architecture section of
the article, from
Marian Smith's 1940 book "The Puyallup-Nisqually" (pp.122-123): "These houses [sweat houses] were used in competitions between villages to see which was the 'toughest'. In such competitions, the men frequently stayed in the sweat house all day long only coming out occasionally to plunge in cold water ... [The sweat bath] was necessary, however, before hunting, before gambling, during mourning, at the time of a specific quest for power and after the act of committing murder ... such purification was designed to cleanse the living with his contacts with the dead, established by everyday propinquity, and, especially, by sexual intercourse ... and for purifactory reasons, as during menstruation, after childbirth, during power training, mourning, etc."
Reviewed:
Comment: This is my first attempt at a DYK nomination, please let me know if I have done something incorrectly or need to submit anything else
PersusjCP (
talk) 02:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi! Nice work on the page. New enough at time of nom, long enough, well-sourced with reliable sources, earwig not showing copyvio. No significant prose or style issues; content is also substantial. No QPQ needed as first nom. I think the hook is a little wordy and hard to parse, however. How about this: ALT1: ... That the Puyallup people traditionally
took ritual sweat baths before hunting, after intercourse, and even as a sport?
I'm a bit sad to exclude those other details, but mix of lists at various levels is a bit hard to parse; it took me really thinking about it to understand it originally. Let me know thoughts.
toobigtokale (
talk) 03:22, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Sure! That sounds good to me. I wasn't sure if they could all make it and I agree it did feel a little convoluted, but I figured I would try. I would support that hook as well. :)
PersusjCP (
talk) 22:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Approved for ALT1 (see above). For other readers, I performed a few spot checks using a copy of Marian Smith's 1940 book. Info checks out.
toobigtokale (
talk) 19:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Feedback from New Page Review process
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Great work on this DYK selection!
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United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Native Americans,
Indigenous peoples in Canada, and related
indigenous peoples of North America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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A fact from Puyallup people appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 April 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that the Puyallup people traditionally
took ritual sweat baths before gambling and hunting, after intercourse, childbirth, and murder, and as a sport? Source: Referencing the second paragraph of the Architecture section of
the article, from
Marian Smith's 1940 book "The Puyallup-Nisqually" (pp.122-123): "These houses [sweat houses] were used in competitions between villages to see which was the 'toughest'. In such competitions, the men frequently stayed in the sweat house all day long only coming out occasionally to plunge in cold water ... [The sweat bath] was necessary, however, before hunting, before gambling, during mourning, at the time of a specific quest for power and after the act of committing murder ... such purification was designed to cleanse the living with his contacts with the dead, established by everyday propinquity, and, especially, by sexual intercourse ... and for purifactory reasons, as during menstruation, after childbirth, during power training, mourning, etc."
Reviewed:
Comment: This is my first attempt at a DYK nomination, please let me know if I have done something incorrectly or need to submit anything else
PersusjCP (
talk) 02:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Hi! Nice work on the page. New enough at time of nom, long enough, well-sourced with reliable sources, earwig not showing copyvio. No significant prose or style issues; content is also substantial. No QPQ needed as first nom. I think the hook is a little wordy and hard to parse, however. How about this: ALT1: ... That the Puyallup people traditionally
took ritual sweat baths before hunting, after intercourse, and even as a sport?
I'm a bit sad to exclude those other details, but mix of lists at various levels is a bit hard to parse; it took me really thinking about it to understand it originally. Let me know thoughts.
toobigtokale (
talk) 03:22, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Sure! That sounds good to me. I wasn't sure if they could all make it and I agree it did feel a little convoluted, but I figured I would try. I would support that hook as well. :)
PersusjCP (
talk) 22:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)reply
Approved for ALT1 (see above). For other readers, I performed a few spot checks using a copy of Marian Smith's 1940 book. Info checks out.
toobigtokale (
talk) 19:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Feedback from New Page Review process
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Great work on this DYK selection!