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Someone please translate into English understandable to someone with a Master's degree or less! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.197.246 ( talk) 08:47, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm new to posting to Wikipedia and got a nasty gram when I posted a link to a shear pressure video demonstration saying I should ask first...so I'm asking...does anyone have a problem with me posting a link to a shear pressure relief video. Shear pressure is a strong contributory factor to decubitus ulcers.
The link is: Shear Pressure Relief Video Demo
I feel VERY strongly about the posting of a lady whose unfortunate condition left her 'grafted' to a couch. I feel it is wrong medically and ethically to do this. Using the link is one thing (and I'm not sure I'm comfortable (as a physician nor as a human being) with that one. If the intent was educational then the reference would suffice; if the attempt was other than that this part of the page should be deleted. Using reference or signal cases is done in medicine with most references to identity hidden or protected.
Although C.R. is a public figure in all respects, perhaps the reference using his initials would have sufficed (done frequently in medicine). I'm not sure that reference should be used here either but will leave it and defer to others in the ethics field.
It may serve bedsores as a 'subcategory' of ulceration. Thinking about move and change DrGnu 22:27, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I'm ambivalent. I agree that it is wrong to hurt someone if it serves no value. But since both of these people are dead, I don't see how anyone would be hurt. I only skimmed the article, but it appears to me that if the GLG case is kept, it could be written in a less sensationalistic way. Here's a rough example of what I mean: "Bedsores can cause death. In one case, blah blah ..." Maurreen 05:59, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The emedicine article "Pressure Ulcers, Surgical Treatment and Principles" by Wilhelmi, listed in external links of this article, mentions that the phrase 'decubitus ulcer' refers only to ulcers gotten from lying supine, so they aren't exactly synonymous with pressure ulcers, as the first sentence suggests. Anyone care to fix this minor detail?
Delldot 04:14, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Aside from using C.R.'s full name and the ethics surrounding that - does anyone think it's a little over-simplified to say he "died from a heart attack brought on as a result of an infected pressure sore." The public is aware of C.R.'s other healthcare issues, but is every reader aware of the numerous other symptoms associated, namely respiratory disorder directly related to tetraplegia, which (I'm assuming - MD's please correct me if I'm wrong) complicated overall health leading to the MI, thus leading to poor prognosis and death.
The very first thought in your brain, when you know a person's condition is such that there is imbobility in the body and may cause bed sores, should be to lay the person on newspaper(s).
To heal bed sores, clean thoroughly with spirit, expose to Infra-red Rays for a few minutes and then apply turmeric powder.
The article already contains details of the NPUAP score of pressure sores. There are other scales as well, for example the Norton Scale. Is there a policy on what scales are mentioned when there are more than one different scales? I don't know how much the Norton Scale is used, so don't know if it justifies mentioning. Ged3000 ( talk) 13:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Ewwww. That picture of Stage IV- eww. I'm not saying remove it, I'm just saying it's grosser than I expected. 216.170.23.235 ( talk) 03:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
The pictures shown do not illustrate the stages of pressure ulcers, nor the one labeled "Stage IV decubitus" is representative of most ulcers out there. We need first stages so people know what to look for and maybe a severe one (nor so gruesome as the one that's there now) so they know what could happen if they do not seek treatment. Elazar.Pimentel ( talk) 16:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
With regard to the treatment of bedsores I was thinking that the primary treatment should be the removal of the pressure that caused the sore. If action is not taken to prevent this then no amount of 'treatment' will cure the problem. If there are no objections I could fill in the relevant information. I also think there ought to be a section about prevention of bedsores. There is a multimillion dollar/pound/euro industry around this strategy and it seems odd not to be included. The first action in any illness treatment strategy is to prevent. What thoughts? Richard Avery ( talk) 08:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I have one of these on my buttock from sitting on the PC too much. Hurts like a bitch and I work in an office so relieving the pressure completely isn't really an option. I'll be sure to update here if it turns into a stage IV and death looks imminent. 81.155.143.202 ( talk) 09:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
There is evidence that ultrasound does not have a place in the treatment of pressure sores. [1], [2], Comments welcome before a decision is made about editing the article. Richard Avery ( talk) 13:33, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
I was looking for information about this, but don't want to see an image of a gaping ulcer; just wanted to read about how to prevent these. Up pops a horrible image. Can you figure a way to prevent that? Put a reference with a link, or put it low on the page with a warning, or preferably the necessity to click to see it. An image that's on the page itself could be an illustration rather than a photo. I really did not want to have that etched in my memory, reading about it is bad enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.225.114 ( talk) 11:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
I suggest the last item (7) be removed as it has no citations. Numbers 5 and 6 are combined and section 4 be removed unless citations can be found for this highly unusual and probably unethical and 'treatment' Richard Avery ( talk) 07:48, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Is this intentional? ") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.250.62.193 ( talk) 23:27, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved to pressure ulcer as the common name (or current common name at least), as indicated by the ngrams given below, and as better encompassing the article's topic per the nom. -- JHunterJ ( talk) 17:02, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
This article is full of technical jargon. It would be helpful for nonspecialist readers to understand it if there were a lot more links to other parts of wikipedia. I added a template to encourage someone to improve the wikification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.232.53 ( talk) 02:04, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Done. It appears that an editor has done this and removed your top-of-article flag. 5Q5 ( talk) 11:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
QUOTE from the Classification section: "Stage I: Intact skin with non-blanchable redness of a localized area usually over a bony prominence." It would help readers if an expert would add a line "Non-blanchable redness means/is . . ." Does it mean when you press on the red sore it doesn't turn white briefly; it stays red? And if it does turn white, then the red sore is not an early stage pressure ulcer, but something else? 5Q5 ( talk) 11:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
In many science fiction works patients float in water tanks. In the real world this would surely prevent decubitus ulcers. So why isn't this technique used in the real world? At first I thought it may be too costly to implement but then I read an article that said conventional decubitus ulcer treatment and prevention costs tens of thousands of dollars (or euros) per patient and is barely effective, surely it must be possible to get a better health outcome per unit of currency with water tanks? 89.99.122.33 ( talk) 17:21, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
should a subsection under "treatment" be added to explain the medical/psychological conditions that cause an individual to be bedridden? (and what can be done to alter this...perhaps this ref [9] to start?)-- Ozzie10aaaa ( talk) 17:09, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
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Someone please translate into English understandable to someone with a Master's degree or less! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.197.246 ( talk) 08:47, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm new to posting to Wikipedia and got a nasty gram when I posted a link to a shear pressure video demonstration saying I should ask first...so I'm asking...does anyone have a problem with me posting a link to a shear pressure relief video. Shear pressure is a strong contributory factor to decubitus ulcers.
The link is: Shear Pressure Relief Video Demo
I feel VERY strongly about the posting of a lady whose unfortunate condition left her 'grafted' to a couch. I feel it is wrong medically and ethically to do this. Using the link is one thing (and I'm not sure I'm comfortable (as a physician nor as a human being) with that one. If the intent was educational then the reference would suffice; if the attempt was other than that this part of the page should be deleted. Using reference or signal cases is done in medicine with most references to identity hidden or protected.
Although C.R. is a public figure in all respects, perhaps the reference using his initials would have sufficed (done frequently in medicine). I'm not sure that reference should be used here either but will leave it and defer to others in the ethics field.
It may serve bedsores as a 'subcategory' of ulceration. Thinking about move and change DrGnu 22:27, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I'm ambivalent. I agree that it is wrong to hurt someone if it serves no value. But since both of these people are dead, I don't see how anyone would be hurt. I only skimmed the article, but it appears to me that if the GLG case is kept, it could be written in a less sensationalistic way. Here's a rough example of what I mean: "Bedsores can cause death. In one case, blah blah ..." Maurreen 05:59, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The emedicine article "Pressure Ulcers, Surgical Treatment and Principles" by Wilhelmi, listed in external links of this article, mentions that the phrase 'decubitus ulcer' refers only to ulcers gotten from lying supine, so they aren't exactly synonymous with pressure ulcers, as the first sentence suggests. Anyone care to fix this minor detail?
Delldot 04:14, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Aside from using C.R.'s full name and the ethics surrounding that - does anyone think it's a little over-simplified to say he "died from a heart attack brought on as a result of an infected pressure sore." The public is aware of C.R.'s other healthcare issues, but is every reader aware of the numerous other symptoms associated, namely respiratory disorder directly related to tetraplegia, which (I'm assuming - MD's please correct me if I'm wrong) complicated overall health leading to the MI, thus leading to poor prognosis and death.
The very first thought in your brain, when you know a person's condition is such that there is imbobility in the body and may cause bed sores, should be to lay the person on newspaper(s).
To heal bed sores, clean thoroughly with spirit, expose to Infra-red Rays for a few minutes and then apply turmeric powder.
The article already contains details of the NPUAP score of pressure sores. There are other scales as well, for example the Norton Scale. Is there a policy on what scales are mentioned when there are more than one different scales? I don't know how much the Norton Scale is used, so don't know if it justifies mentioning. Ged3000 ( talk) 13:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Ewwww. That picture of Stage IV- eww. I'm not saying remove it, I'm just saying it's grosser than I expected. 216.170.23.235 ( talk) 03:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
The pictures shown do not illustrate the stages of pressure ulcers, nor the one labeled "Stage IV decubitus" is representative of most ulcers out there. We need first stages so people know what to look for and maybe a severe one (nor so gruesome as the one that's there now) so they know what could happen if they do not seek treatment. Elazar.Pimentel ( talk) 16:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
With regard to the treatment of bedsores I was thinking that the primary treatment should be the removal of the pressure that caused the sore. If action is not taken to prevent this then no amount of 'treatment' will cure the problem. If there are no objections I could fill in the relevant information. I also think there ought to be a section about prevention of bedsores. There is a multimillion dollar/pound/euro industry around this strategy and it seems odd not to be included. The first action in any illness treatment strategy is to prevent. What thoughts? Richard Avery ( talk) 08:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I have one of these on my buttock from sitting on the PC too much. Hurts like a bitch and I work in an office so relieving the pressure completely isn't really an option. I'll be sure to update here if it turns into a stage IV and death looks imminent. 81.155.143.202 ( talk) 09:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
There is evidence that ultrasound does not have a place in the treatment of pressure sores. [1], [2], Comments welcome before a decision is made about editing the article. Richard Avery ( talk) 13:33, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
I was looking for information about this, but don't want to see an image of a gaping ulcer; just wanted to read about how to prevent these. Up pops a horrible image. Can you figure a way to prevent that? Put a reference with a link, or put it low on the page with a warning, or preferably the necessity to click to see it. An image that's on the page itself could be an illustration rather than a photo. I really did not want to have that etched in my memory, reading about it is bad enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.225.114 ( talk) 11:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
I suggest the last item (7) be removed as it has no citations. Numbers 5 and 6 are combined and section 4 be removed unless citations can be found for this highly unusual and probably unethical and 'treatment' Richard Avery ( talk) 07:48, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Is this intentional? ") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.250.62.193 ( talk) 23:27, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved to pressure ulcer as the common name (or current common name at least), as indicated by the ngrams given below, and as better encompassing the article's topic per the nom. -- JHunterJ ( talk) 17:02, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
This article is full of technical jargon. It would be helpful for nonspecialist readers to understand it if there were a lot more links to other parts of wikipedia. I added a template to encourage someone to improve the wikification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.232.53 ( talk) 02:04, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Done. It appears that an editor has done this and removed your top-of-article flag. 5Q5 ( talk) 11:25, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
QUOTE from the Classification section: "Stage I: Intact skin with non-blanchable redness of a localized area usually over a bony prominence." It would help readers if an expert would add a line "Non-blanchable redness means/is . . ." Does it mean when you press on the red sore it doesn't turn white briefly; it stays red? And if it does turn white, then the red sore is not an early stage pressure ulcer, but something else? 5Q5 ( talk) 11:44, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
In many science fiction works patients float in water tanks. In the real world this would surely prevent decubitus ulcers. So why isn't this technique used in the real world? At first I thought it may be too costly to implement but then I read an article that said conventional decubitus ulcer treatment and prevention costs tens of thousands of dollars (or euros) per patient and is barely effective, surely it must be possible to get a better health outcome per unit of currency with water tanks? 89.99.122.33 ( talk) 17:21, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
should a subsection under "treatment" be added to explain the medical/psychological conditions that cause an individual to be bedridden? (and what can be done to alter this...perhaps this ref [9] to start?)-- Ozzie10aaaa ( talk) 17:09, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 22 August 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Asmith157 ( article contribs).
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