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Users Ssumpf and DHayes14 are working together on expanding the Polysomy article as part of a Molecular Biology course assignment. We hope to collaborate with others who are interested in this topic and we are open to suggestions. According to the existing version of the Polysomy article, Polysomy is a condition in which an otherwise diploid organism has at least one more chromosome than normal and is usually caused by non-disjunction. There are a few wiki articles on specific types of polysomy, such as Trisomy 21 ( Down's Syndrome), and we will incorporate information for these topics in their relation to polysomy. Polysomy is considered a stub-class article of high importance in the molecular and cellular biology portal, but of medium importance on the genetics portal. This article could be expanded upon drastically and as we begin researching this topic we will be focusing on developing subtopics that further elaborate on Polysomy. In its current state this article appears as though it is an expanded dictionary definition, and only uses a glossary as a reference. There are plenty of verifiable resources available that contain no original research that we can utilize to develop the article. There are no images on the current article page, which we can definitely expand on. So far the article is neutral, but not broad or completely verifiable and we will aim to maintain a neutral tone. In the article Talk Page there has been no discussion among any Wikipedia editors about writing more in this article, but hopefully there will be some thoughtful intellectual exchanges that result from our work on this interesting article subject!
We will consider adding the following subsections as part of our efforts to bring this article to a class B or Good Article (GA) category:
1. Polysomy Definition
2. Polysomy Types
2.1
trisomy
2.2
tetrasomy
2.2a quadrosomy
2.2b quatrosomy
2.3 pentasomy
2.4 heptasomy
2.5 hexasomy
2.6 octosomy
2.7 nanosomy
2.8 decasomy
3. Polysomy in Animals
3.1 Polysomy 13 in Canines
3.2 Germ line polysomy in the grasshopper
3.3 Heterochromatic polysomy in the cricket
3.4 X-chromosome polysomy in Drosphilia
3.5 Polysomy in humans
3.5a Polysomy X (both male and female)
3.5b Polysomy Y
3.5c Polysomy of chromosome 7
3.5d Polysomy of chromosome 8
3.5e Polysomy of chromosome 17
3.5f
Trisomy 21
3.5g Quadrosomy 4 & Quatrosomy 13
3.5h
Tetrasomy 9p
3.5i
Tetrasomy 18p
4. Polysomy in Plants
4.1 Ornithogalum umbellatum L. (Liliaceae)
4.2 Ophioglossum reticulatum
4.3 Conifers
5. Polysomy in Fungi
5.1 Saccharomyces cerevisiae
6. Terminology
6.1
Aneuploidy
6.2
Polyploidy
6.3
Karyotype
6.4
Paralogous
6.5
Homologous
7. See Also
8. References
9. Further Reading
10. Links
This article is coming along very nicely. I can tell that you have put a fair amount of work and research into it. Your lead section introduces and summarizes the topic of polysomy efficiently. I imagine that as your expand upon your article, you will want to revise your lead section and update it as you see fit. It was important that you included a reference to Down syndrome in your lead because it helps emphasize to the reader the importance of the article. I did a brief search for information on polysomy and one condition that is notable to include in your lead is Kleinfelter's syndrome. I am also intrigued by the fact that when you have polysomy on chromosomes 3, 17, and 31, there is an increased chance of certain cancers [Source]. It's unfortunate that terrible ailments are what catch people's attention, hence the reason for our news networks reporting on what they do. I apologize for the digression. I agree with Mnemcek in regards to the lead being neutral. I'd also like to add that you haven't used any complicated terms without providing an internal wiki link. The exception to my previous point would be the use of translocation in your lead. There is a wiki link that you could use, since it may be a word that is not understood by your audience.
I was able to visit your third source which was Griffiths, AJF; Miller JH, Suzuki DT, et al. (2000). The information you pulled from there was an accurate representation of the material. I hope you are able to find more sources to pull your information from. The section of further reading was a great idea and will hopefully inspire others to continue researching.
I'm not quite sure about the importance of the "Terminology" and "See Also" sections of the article. Perhaps they are useful as your are working on adding on to the article. I have been to several older articles such as down syndrome and HIV/AIDS and neither of these well established wiki pages have sections like this. They do however have an "external links" section toward the bottom which I imagine will replace one of these current sections.
The gaps in the content are quite obvious due to this being an early draft of the article. Rather than point out what's missing for sections that you already have listed, I'd like to make a few suggestions for future sections related to polysomy. Signs and symptoms, causes, diagnosis, screening, history, and society and culture are just a few possible additions you could add on. I understand if you already have planned on these and just not had the time to put them into the article. It will be interesting to see how you eventually end up managing all these different topics for plants, animals, humans, and fungi. Humans will be the one that requires the most work being that the tools for diagnosis and screening are more tailored towards humans.
I look forward to reviewing your progress and wish you the best of luck. I hope my critique was able to offer you a helpful perspective for your future endeavors. Previte01 ( talk) 03:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Great progress so far on this article! I think you have kept the language neutral/unbiased and informative without going into too much detail. In terms of layout, I like the way you organized it with multiple examples of different types of polysomy. I am assuming you will fill in the “Polysomy in humans” section in the coming weeks. Will you be expanding the “Polysomy in Fungi” section as well? It might be good to add a short description of the polysomy in the fungi you have listed (Saccharomyces cerevisiae).
I would also suggest possibly making a separate section (maybe towards the end of the article) that explains the difference between –ploidy and –somy in more detail. The small description you have in the lead section might be a little confusing for some readers.
I think the lead section does a great job of laying out an accessible overview of the topic. The first sentence seems to be a little bit redundant. Consider taking out “the number of a particular chromosome is not diploid”. I think the first part of that sentence implies this already. The second sentence is slightly confusing as well. You start by saying “genotype or phenotype” and end by saying “as compared to the natural genotype”. Maybe take out phenotype in the first part, since you are actually referring to just the genotype.
The image you have included in this article is a great way to show a potential cause of polysomy. If you add more images, a polysomic karyotype might be interesting to show to readers (something similar to this: http://www.glowm.com/resources/glowm/cd/pages/v5/ch089/framesets/001f.html)
Your references are a good mix of current and historical information from reputable sources. The only one I would question is the second reference to a blog. I’m not sure if this is necessary, but I can’t find the source from which they got their information on polysomy.
My last comment is on your “See Also” section. I’m not sure where Sympatry and Speciation fit into this topic. Will you be expanding the article to have information related to these two topics? They seem like they're more ecology-related as opposed to genetics. Mnemcek ( talk) 17:17, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
All in all, it is a good start, but there is definitely room for improvement! Klortho ( talk) 04:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
I have expanded on the "Fungi" section and have made several other changes based on commentary on the article Talk Page. After conducting further research I found some interesting information on the Diagnostic Tools used to identify polysomy. I have only identified one primary tool "FISH" but it seems to be an accepted and well-established diagnostic tool. Please let me know if you think a better header for this section would be appropriate. Feedback regarding the Fungi section is welcome too. Thanks! DHayes14 ( talk) 17:19, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ssumpf! I love the graphic that you found to include in the insects section. I am wondering what you think about the idea of moving it to the left side of the page? I am not sure how easy this is to do but I wanted to hear your thoughts. I saw that you mentioned that you already resized the image and I would definitely not recommend making it smaller. I figured if we moved it to the left it would be less likely to creep into the plants section. DHayes14 ( talk) 17:47, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
I can see you have definitely put a lot of work into your article and it looks really good. I will start with some of my overall impressions before I go further into each section. Your article is unbiased and presents well-cited factual information; however, your writing seems a little too technical in many places. You have done an excellent job of wiki linking in order to further explain difficult concepts, but you may want to consider simplifying particularly the lead section. This may be as easy as simplifying your sentence structure; currently it is possible to get confused by all of the clauses within each sentence. Reviewing your sources, it also seems that you have accurately captured the information without restating the original articles. As I suggested before you may want to consider slightly simplifying your lead section. Keilana informed me during the last peer review that the lead section is meant to be a summary of the detailed information cited elsewhere in your article. This means that you do not need to have in-line citations in the lead section. I would also recommend adding a section to the body of the article regarding the differences between polysomy and polyploidy, as the lead section is the only place this is currently mentioned.
Your figures and the table are helpful in illustrating the material you explain in the text of the article and fit well within the headers under which they are located. I would however, question the value that the terminology section is adding. Most of the terms are referenced and wiki linked elsewhere in the article making the section redundant. Those terms that are not mentioned may confuse a reader as to how the term applies to polysomy. Perhaps you could consider incorporating all of the terms into the article and removing this section.
I like how, from your outline, it looks like you are planning on making the bulk of the content example based. This is very informative, but I would also consider adding sections on how polysomy is detected and any research being conducted on the topic. You have a good start with the diagnostic tools section, although I am not sure if I would place that section under Polysomy in humans. If you continue following the structure of the rest of the article I would put examples of polysomy in this section and relocated the Diagnostic tools to a separate section possibly including other methods of detection. Richarnj ( talk) 14:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm looking forward to following the progress of your article. Best wishes, Wpeissner ( talk) 21:06, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
First of all I would like to congratulate you on the great article! The language is easy to understand, the illustrations are a great addition (including the table), and the organization of the article is easy to follow and it flows beautifully! I am not familiar with how the page looked before – Did it existed? If so, what was the status? In regards to what you have now, I don’t see anything that needs to be changed or improved as I think you aimed the main points on explaining what polysomy is.
I hope this little comment helps, and I am sorry I didn’t add much as I honestly think your article is great as is now! Good luck finalizing it. Amontei2 ( talk) 17:46, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
You have been doing a great job with this article. Here are some recommendations for further improvement:
Thank you for developing this article so well. I hope you will contact me if you have any questions about the above. Neelix ( talk) 21:19, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Wow, I learned quite a bit from reading your article! Great job on the article! Here are a few of my suggestions: 1. I know that Dr. Ogg said to not worry about grammar too much, but please review your article before submission. For example, in the introduction, there is an unnecessary semicolon in in the first sentence after the ie. in the parentheses. 2. I agree with Neelix in that references and external links should be avoided in the introduction/summary paragraph. 3. I liked how you have organized the different types of polysomies in a table. 4. The pictures should be spread out more, instead of being bunched up. It takes the attention away from the text. 5. Personally, if time permits, I'd say you can expand on the "Diagnostic tools" area of the article. There has been a lot of ongoing research on such subject matter and it would be helpful to use that information in the article. Overall, great job guys! CarpeDiem90 ( talk) 21:47, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Sierra and Deborah-nice work with your article! Some comments:
Overall great job!! It was easy to read and informative.- Amanaresi ( talk) 04:12, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
This article was already pasted into a yahoo response (without credit/appropriate citation might I add) from user: Louis: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140328055835AAvxL26 -- Ssumpf ( talk) 20:00, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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Users Ssumpf and DHayes14 are working together on expanding the Polysomy article as part of a Molecular Biology course assignment. We hope to collaborate with others who are interested in this topic and we are open to suggestions. According to the existing version of the Polysomy article, Polysomy is a condition in which an otherwise diploid organism has at least one more chromosome than normal and is usually caused by non-disjunction. There are a few wiki articles on specific types of polysomy, such as Trisomy 21 ( Down's Syndrome), and we will incorporate information for these topics in their relation to polysomy. Polysomy is considered a stub-class article of high importance in the molecular and cellular biology portal, but of medium importance on the genetics portal. This article could be expanded upon drastically and as we begin researching this topic we will be focusing on developing subtopics that further elaborate on Polysomy. In its current state this article appears as though it is an expanded dictionary definition, and only uses a glossary as a reference. There are plenty of verifiable resources available that contain no original research that we can utilize to develop the article. There are no images on the current article page, which we can definitely expand on. So far the article is neutral, but not broad or completely verifiable and we will aim to maintain a neutral tone. In the article Talk Page there has been no discussion among any Wikipedia editors about writing more in this article, but hopefully there will be some thoughtful intellectual exchanges that result from our work on this interesting article subject!
We will consider adding the following subsections as part of our efforts to bring this article to a class B or Good Article (GA) category:
1. Polysomy Definition
2. Polysomy Types
2.1
trisomy
2.2
tetrasomy
2.2a quadrosomy
2.2b quatrosomy
2.3 pentasomy
2.4 heptasomy
2.5 hexasomy
2.6 octosomy
2.7 nanosomy
2.8 decasomy
3. Polysomy in Animals
3.1 Polysomy 13 in Canines
3.2 Germ line polysomy in the grasshopper
3.3 Heterochromatic polysomy in the cricket
3.4 X-chromosome polysomy in Drosphilia
3.5 Polysomy in humans
3.5a Polysomy X (both male and female)
3.5b Polysomy Y
3.5c Polysomy of chromosome 7
3.5d Polysomy of chromosome 8
3.5e Polysomy of chromosome 17
3.5f
Trisomy 21
3.5g Quadrosomy 4 & Quatrosomy 13
3.5h
Tetrasomy 9p
3.5i
Tetrasomy 18p
4. Polysomy in Plants
4.1 Ornithogalum umbellatum L. (Liliaceae)
4.2 Ophioglossum reticulatum
4.3 Conifers
5. Polysomy in Fungi
5.1 Saccharomyces cerevisiae
6. Terminology
6.1
Aneuploidy
6.2
Polyploidy
6.3
Karyotype
6.4
Paralogous
6.5
Homologous
7. See Also
8. References
9. Further Reading
10. Links
This article is coming along very nicely. I can tell that you have put a fair amount of work and research into it. Your lead section introduces and summarizes the topic of polysomy efficiently. I imagine that as your expand upon your article, you will want to revise your lead section and update it as you see fit. It was important that you included a reference to Down syndrome in your lead because it helps emphasize to the reader the importance of the article. I did a brief search for information on polysomy and one condition that is notable to include in your lead is Kleinfelter's syndrome. I am also intrigued by the fact that when you have polysomy on chromosomes 3, 17, and 31, there is an increased chance of certain cancers [Source]. It's unfortunate that terrible ailments are what catch people's attention, hence the reason for our news networks reporting on what they do. I apologize for the digression. I agree with Mnemcek in regards to the lead being neutral. I'd also like to add that you haven't used any complicated terms without providing an internal wiki link. The exception to my previous point would be the use of translocation in your lead. There is a wiki link that you could use, since it may be a word that is not understood by your audience.
I was able to visit your third source which was Griffiths, AJF; Miller JH, Suzuki DT, et al. (2000). The information you pulled from there was an accurate representation of the material. I hope you are able to find more sources to pull your information from. The section of further reading was a great idea and will hopefully inspire others to continue researching.
I'm not quite sure about the importance of the "Terminology" and "See Also" sections of the article. Perhaps they are useful as your are working on adding on to the article. I have been to several older articles such as down syndrome and HIV/AIDS and neither of these well established wiki pages have sections like this. They do however have an "external links" section toward the bottom which I imagine will replace one of these current sections.
The gaps in the content are quite obvious due to this being an early draft of the article. Rather than point out what's missing for sections that you already have listed, I'd like to make a few suggestions for future sections related to polysomy. Signs and symptoms, causes, diagnosis, screening, history, and society and culture are just a few possible additions you could add on. I understand if you already have planned on these and just not had the time to put them into the article. It will be interesting to see how you eventually end up managing all these different topics for plants, animals, humans, and fungi. Humans will be the one that requires the most work being that the tools for diagnosis and screening are more tailored towards humans.
I look forward to reviewing your progress and wish you the best of luck. I hope my critique was able to offer you a helpful perspective for your future endeavors. Previte01 ( talk) 03:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Great progress so far on this article! I think you have kept the language neutral/unbiased and informative without going into too much detail. In terms of layout, I like the way you organized it with multiple examples of different types of polysomy. I am assuming you will fill in the “Polysomy in humans” section in the coming weeks. Will you be expanding the “Polysomy in Fungi” section as well? It might be good to add a short description of the polysomy in the fungi you have listed (Saccharomyces cerevisiae).
I would also suggest possibly making a separate section (maybe towards the end of the article) that explains the difference between –ploidy and –somy in more detail. The small description you have in the lead section might be a little confusing for some readers.
I think the lead section does a great job of laying out an accessible overview of the topic. The first sentence seems to be a little bit redundant. Consider taking out “the number of a particular chromosome is not diploid”. I think the first part of that sentence implies this already. The second sentence is slightly confusing as well. You start by saying “genotype or phenotype” and end by saying “as compared to the natural genotype”. Maybe take out phenotype in the first part, since you are actually referring to just the genotype.
The image you have included in this article is a great way to show a potential cause of polysomy. If you add more images, a polysomic karyotype might be interesting to show to readers (something similar to this: http://www.glowm.com/resources/glowm/cd/pages/v5/ch089/framesets/001f.html)
Your references are a good mix of current and historical information from reputable sources. The only one I would question is the second reference to a blog. I’m not sure if this is necessary, but I can’t find the source from which they got their information on polysomy.
My last comment is on your “See Also” section. I’m not sure where Sympatry and Speciation fit into this topic. Will you be expanding the article to have information related to these two topics? They seem like they're more ecology-related as opposed to genetics. Mnemcek ( talk) 17:17, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
All in all, it is a good start, but there is definitely room for improvement! Klortho ( talk) 04:01, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
I have expanded on the "Fungi" section and have made several other changes based on commentary on the article Talk Page. After conducting further research I found some interesting information on the Diagnostic Tools used to identify polysomy. I have only identified one primary tool "FISH" but it seems to be an accepted and well-established diagnostic tool. Please let me know if you think a better header for this section would be appropriate. Feedback regarding the Fungi section is welcome too. Thanks! DHayes14 ( talk) 17:19, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Ssumpf! I love the graphic that you found to include in the insects section. I am wondering what you think about the idea of moving it to the left side of the page? I am not sure how easy this is to do but I wanted to hear your thoughts. I saw that you mentioned that you already resized the image and I would definitely not recommend making it smaller. I figured if we moved it to the left it would be less likely to creep into the plants section. DHayes14 ( talk) 17:47, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
I can see you have definitely put a lot of work into your article and it looks really good. I will start with some of my overall impressions before I go further into each section. Your article is unbiased and presents well-cited factual information; however, your writing seems a little too technical in many places. You have done an excellent job of wiki linking in order to further explain difficult concepts, but you may want to consider simplifying particularly the lead section. This may be as easy as simplifying your sentence structure; currently it is possible to get confused by all of the clauses within each sentence. Reviewing your sources, it also seems that you have accurately captured the information without restating the original articles. As I suggested before you may want to consider slightly simplifying your lead section. Keilana informed me during the last peer review that the lead section is meant to be a summary of the detailed information cited elsewhere in your article. This means that you do not need to have in-line citations in the lead section. I would also recommend adding a section to the body of the article regarding the differences between polysomy and polyploidy, as the lead section is the only place this is currently mentioned.
Your figures and the table are helpful in illustrating the material you explain in the text of the article and fit well within the headers under which they are located. I would however, question the value that the terminology section is adding. Most of the terms are referenced and wiki linked elsewhere in the article making the section redundant. Those terms that are not mentioned may confuse a reader as to how the term applies to polysomy. Perhaps you could consider incorporating all of the terms into the article and removing this section.
I like how, from your outline, it looks like you are planning on making the bulk of the content example based. This is very informative, but I would also consider adding sections on how polysomy is detected and any research being conducted on the topic. You have a good start with the diagnostic tools section, although I am not sure if I would place that section under Polysomy in humans. If you continue following the structure of the rest of the article I would put examples of polysomy in this section and relocated the Diagnostic tools to a separate section possibly including other methods of detection. Richarnj ( talk) 14:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm looking forward to following the progress of your article. Best wishes, Wpeissner ( talk) 21:06, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
First of all I would like to congratulate you on the great article! The language is easy to understand, the illustrations are a great addition (including the table), and the organization of the article is easy to follow and it flows beautifully! I am not familiar with how the page looked before – Did it existed? If so, what was the status? In regards to what you have now, I don’t see anything that needs to be changed or improved as I think you aimed the main points on explaining what polysomy is.
I hope this little comment helps, and I am sorry I didn’t add much as I honestly think your article is great as is now! Good luck finalizing it. Amontei2 ( talk) 17:46, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
You have been doing a great job with this article. Here are some recommendations for further improvement:
Thank you for developing this article so well. I hope you will contact me if you have any questions about the above. Neelix ( talk) 21:19, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Wow, I learned quite a bit from reading your article! Great job on the article! Here are a few of my suggestions: 1. I know that Dr. Ogg said to not worry about grammar too much, but please review your article before submission. For example, in the introduction, there is an unnecessary semicolon in in the first sentence after the ie. in the parentheses. 2. I agree with Neelix in that references and external links should be avoided in the introduction/summary paragraph. 3. I liked how you have organized the different types of polysomies in a table. 4. The pictures should be spread out more, instead of being bunched up. It takes the attention away from the text. 5. Personally, if time permits, I'd say you can expand on the "Diagnostic tools" area of the article. There has been a lot of ongoing research on such subject matter and it would be helpful to use that information in the article. Overall, great job guys! CarpeDiem90 ( talk) 21:47, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Sierra and Deborah-nice work with your article! Some comments:
Overall great job!! It was easy to read and informative.- Amanaresi ( talk) 04:12, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
This article was already pasted into a yahoo response (without credit/appropriate citation might I add) from user: Louis: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140328055835AAvxL26 -- Ssumpf ( talk) 20:00, 4 May 2014 (UTC)