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The Asimov-attributed quote given here seems the most familiar to me, but I found several other versions from googling:
Anyone know what the original was? And whether it was actually Asimov? Most don't give credit; this one credited Sir James Jeans, this one says 'anonymous', this newsgroup post credits George Polya, and so on. Mostly could be lazy (mis)quoting, but it'd be good for Wikipedia to get it right :-) -- Wapcaplet 04:14, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
"How is zero encoded?" Submitted by an unidentified person.
Ten letter words for numeral 0 looks good to me.
I like a further compaction of Pi Before any attempted memorisation: convert Pi to Base Sixteen, wherein 5 Base Sixteen digits contain information equal to 6 Base Ten digits, a modest but useful gain of brevity for human purposes.
Odds are it was Originally Calculated in Base 2 or Base 16 using a digital computer anyway.
First devise set of letters representing all 16 digits:
0 h 1 k 2 s 3 c 4 d 5 z 6 v 7 p 8 t 9 y A n B m C g D l E w F f
Next take pairs of these hexadecimal names and supply a simple short vowel between each letter pair, i use short unaccented a as in above.
This produces an expression of Pi in Base 256, thus another data compression by a factor of two for human intellect.
hac a sad caf van tat taz nac hat lac kac kay tan saw hac pah pac dad ...
16 Base 256 digits containing about equal information to 36 Base Ten digits.
RAFS
🐱🐱🐱 FritzYCat ( talk) 16:22, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Base 256 van be improved to Base 1024 by using a set of vowels to represent combinations of 2 more data bits.
I haven't done this, but someone with a digital computer could easily do it. I propose inserting one bit above lower hex digit, then adding one bit above higher digit, for naming and graphic compatability between Base 256 and Base 1024.
Leave unaccented a to indicate 8 bit Base 256, Then use unaccented e i o u to represent 00 01 10 11 combinations of these two separately inserted bits.
dug dis hep cot would obviously be in Base 1024,equivalent to 8 Base 32 digits, 10 hexadecimal digits, or about 12 decimal digits.
Split into 8 Base 32 digits we have:
d+16 g+16 d+0 s+16 h+0 p+0 c+16 t+0
We might need few more than 4 such digits for much practical data memorisation: we're talking Powers of 1024, for numbers up to a something above Base Ten 1,000,000,000,000.
1,099,511,627,775. 🐱🐱🐱 FritzYCat ( talk) 17:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not supposed to hide questionable content...
I changed the word back . Politeness wins ( Paladin 21:19, 23 May 2006 (UTC)).
I think this article is rather poorly equipped w.r.t. what is available as mnemonics for pi. Also, on the page on pi one sees "Ever since computers have computed billions of digits...", but I can imagine that some of these mnemonics are older than the computation of a billion digits. Is there any information about (approximate) years? — MFH: Talk 18:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I added a piece to the English section giving a numeric rhyme for the first 100 digits composed by mathematician John Conway. I hope no one minds. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.253.26.10 ( talk) 23:00, 7 February 2007 (UTC).
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Does anyone know what became of http://www.cilea.it/~bottoni/www-cilea/F90/piph.htm Andreas P. Hatzipolakis' PiPhilology, said to be a "site with hundreds of examples of mnemonics for π"? Ditto http://theory.cs.iitm.ernet.in/~arvindn/pi/ said to allow one to memorize "1000 digits of pi". Robert Greer ( talk) 17:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I tried to add a link to my blog where I describe a method for memorizing digits in a random access system. The link was removed by a bot (XLinkBot). I then tried to undo the removal with an explanation, but then the link was taken away by WBOSITG using something called Huggle.
I wonder if my blog which I link to does not fit to the situation, and if so, what can I do to make it fit, so that a link can be appropriate.
I am presently using my method to memorize 10,000 digits of pi. I have so far done 2,300 digits, and presently I increase that by 100 per day.
Here is the link to my blog http://bigparadox.wordpress.com/
87.227.64.221 ( talk) 12:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Magnus, Stockholm, Sweden
I created a new method I find extremely effective.
I wrote a program for my calculator that will allow me to type in the digits of pi, and when I mess up it stops me, displays how many I did correctly, and shows the next five digits. This method allows you to notice mistakes instantly, but much more importantly learning it on a key bad allows you to see designs and not just memorize numbers. For example there is a sequence where you would punch each of the corners of the key pad, and one where you do a diagonal line across it. Using this method I learned the first 211 digits with relative ease.
( millyissa 9:35, 13 March 2009).
I believe a logarithmic scale for the Y-axis would be more appropriate.-- User:wjmelements —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.16.65.43 ( talk) 18:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
User:NazarK added in a paragraph claiming that Andriy Slyusarchuk has memorized 30 million digits of π. Whilst the sources cited may support the secondary claims that (1) 30 million digits of pi were printed in 20 volumes of text, (2) the president of Ukraine officially congratulated him, and (3) a possibility of financing a dedicated research center for development of Mr. Slyusarchuk's methodology had been discussed, there is nothing to substantiate the unbelievable claim that he has memorized 30 million digits of π, and so I have deleted the paragraph. To prove that you have memorized π you have to recite it back in front of reliable witnesses in a controlled environment. But to recite 30 million digits of π at one digit a second would take almost a year (347 days) if you did it non-stop 24 hours a day, seven days a week -- realistically it would take several years to do. It is just not possible! BabelStone ( talk) 21:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
The memorization records mentioned at Pi#Memorizing_digits seem very out-of-sync with those given on this page. Have there been any established conclusions on:
I'm a newcomer to this page, so i wanted to ask if any of the longer-term editors had already established a plan before proposing specific edits. Thanks, An Earthshine ( talk) 21:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Please see File talk:PiDigits.svg for some objections to the chart of pi memory records being used here and in the Pi article. - dcljr ( talk) 23:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I have deleted Andriy Slyusarchuk. It's fake, and links to yellow nonofficial sites —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.217.109 ( talk) 16:31, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
the 100,000 memorizing record is only a claim, hadn't been verified. Should be stated in the article. Gil_mo ( talk) 06:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The article on Khaime Garcia is weakly sourced, and doesn't indicate notability per WP:BIO. Any objections to merging it here at the "Memorization record holders" section? Anyone know a more reliable way to WP:Verify the asserted record? Thanks, Altered Walter ( talk) 11:36, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
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Rhymes with the digits of pi in what language? It doesn't rhyme (near or perfect) in English.
Dreams -- three. Okay. It's near rhyme. Number -- one. Not even if you pronounce it as "wun" instead of "won"--or as the pronunciation I like the most: "one"--would I give you assonance for that.
And then there's
us -- four
I don't know. Am I missing something or is someone mistaken about the way this poem functions? Smartstocks ( talk) 20:11, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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The Asimov-attributed quote given here seems the most familiar to me, but I found several other versions from googling:
Anyone know what the original was? And whether it was actually Asimov? Most don't give credit; this one credited Sir James Jeans, this one says 'anonymous', this newsgroup post credits George Polya, and so on. Mostly could be lazy (mis)quoting, but it'd be good for Wikipedia to get it right :-) -- Wapcaplet 04:14, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
"How is zero encoded?" Submitted by an unidentified person.
Ten letter words for numeral 0 looks good to me.
I like a further compaction of Pi Before any attempted memorisation: convert Pi to Base Sixteen, wherein 5 Base Sixteen digits contain information equal to 6 Base Ten digits, a modest but useful gain of brevity for human purposes.
Odds are it was Originally Calculated in Base 2 or Base 16 using a digital computer anyway.
First devise set of letters representing all 16 digits:
0 h 1 k 2 s 3 c 4 d 5 z 6 v 7 p 8 t 9 y A n B m C g D l E w F f
Next take pairs of these hexadecimal names and supply a simple short vowel between each letter pair, i use short unaccented a as in above.
This produces an expression of Pi in Base 256, thus another data compression by a factor of two for human intellect.
hac a sad caf van tat taz nac hat lac kac kay tan saw hac pah pac dad ...
16 Base 256 digits containing about equal information to 36 Base Ten digits.
RAFS
🐱🐱🐱 FritzYCat ( talk) 16:22, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Base 256 van be improved to Base 1024 by using a set of vowels to represent combinations of 2 more data bits.
I haven't done this, but someone with a digital computer could easily do it. I propose inserting one bit above lower hex digit, then adding one bit above higher digit, for naming and graphic compatability between Base 256 and Base 1024.
Leave unaccented a to indicate 8 bit Base 256, Then use unaccented e i o u to represent 00 01 10 11 combinations of these two separately inserted bits.
dug dis hep cot would obviously be in Base 1024,equivalent to 8 Base 32 digits, 10 hexadecimal digits, or about 12 decimal digits.
Split into 8 Base 32 digits we have:
d+16 g+16 d+0 s+16 h+0 p+0 c+16 t+0
We might need few more than 4 such digits for much practical data memorisation: we're talking Powers of 1024, for numbers up to a something above Base Ten 1,000,000,000,000.
1,099,511,627,775. 🐱🐱🐱 FritzYCat ( talk) 17:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not supposed to hide questionable content...
I changed the word back . Politeness wins ( Paladin 21:19, 23 May 2006 (UTC)).
I think this article is rather poorly equipped w.r.t. what is available as mnemonics for pi. Also, on the page on pi one sees "Ever since computers have computed billions of digits...", but I can imagine that some of these mnemonics are older than the computation of a billion digits. Is there any information about (approximate) years? — MFH: Talk 18:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I added a piece to the English section giving a numeric rhyme for the first 100 digits composed by mathematician John Conway. I hope no one minds. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.253.26.10 ( talk) 23:00, 7 February 2007 (UTC).
-->
Does anyone know what became of http://www.cilea.it/~bottoni/www-cilea/F90/piph.htm Andreas P. Hatzipolakis' PiPhilology, said to be a "site with hundreds of examples of mnemonics for π"? Ditto http://theory.cs.iitm.ernet.in/~arvindn/pi/ said to allow one to memorize "1000 digits of pi". Robert Greer ( talk) 17:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I tried to add a link to my blog where I describe a method for memorizing digits in a random access system. The link was removed by a bot (XLinkBot). I then tried to undo the removal with an explanation, but then the link was taken away by WBOSITG using something called Huggle.
I wonder if my blog which I link to does not fit to the situation, and if so, what can I do to make it fit, so that a link can be appropriate.
I am presently using my method to memorize 10,000 digits of pi. I have so far done 2,300 digits, and presently I increase that by 100 per day.
Here is the link to my blog http://bigparadox.wordpress.com/
87.227.64.221 ( talk) 12:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC) Magnus, Stockholm, Sweden
I created a new method I find extremely effective.
I wrote a program for my calculator that will allow me to type in the digits of pi, and when I mess up it stops me, displays how many I did correctly, and shows the next five digits. This method allows you to notice mistakes instantly, but much more importantly learning it on a key bad allows you to see designs and not just memorize numbers. For example there is a sequence where you would punch each of the corners of the key pad, and one where you do a diagonal line across it. Using this method I learned the first 211 digits with relative ease.
( millyissa 9:35, 13 March 2009).
I believe a logarithmic scale for the Y-axis would be more appropriate.-- User:wjmelements —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.16.65.43 ( talk) 18:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
User:NazarK added in a paragraph claiming that Andriy Slyusarchuk has memorized 30 million digits of π. Whilst the sources cited may support the secondary claims that (1) 30 million digits of pi were printed in 20 volumes of text, (2) the president of Ukraine officially congratulated him, and (3) a possibility of financing a dedicated research center for development of Mr. Slyusarchuk's methodology had been discussed, there is nothing to substantiate the unbelievable claim that he has memorized 30 million digits of π, and so I have deleted the paragraph. To prove that you have memorized π you have to recite it back in front of reliable witnesses in a controlled environment. But to recite 30 million digits of π at one digit a second would take almost a year (347 days) if you did it non-stop 24 hours a day, seven days a week -- realistically it would take several years to do. It is just not possible! BabelStone ( talk) 21:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
The memorization records mentioned at Pi#Memorizing_digits seem very out-of-sync with those given on this page. Have there been any established conclusions on:
I'm a newcomer to this page, so i wanted to ask if any of the longer-term editors had already established a plan before proposing specific edits. Thanks, An Earthshine ( talk) 21:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Please see File talk:PiDigits.svg for some objections to the chart of pi memory records being used here and in the Pi article. - dcljr ( talk) 23:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I have deleted Andriy Slyusarchuk. It's fake, and links to yellow nonofficial sites —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.217.109 ( talk) 16:31, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
the 100,000 memorizing record is only a claim, hadn't been verified. Should be stated in the article. Gil_mo ( talk) 06:43, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The article on Khaime Garcia is weakly sourced, and doesn't indicate notability per WP:BIO. Any objections to merging it here at the "Memorization record holders" section? Anyone know a more reliable way to WP:Verify the asserted record? Thanks, Altered Walter ( talk) 11:36, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
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Rhymes with the digits of pi in what language? It doesn't rhyme (near or perfect) in English.
Dreams -- three. Okay. It's near rhyme. Number -- one. Not even if you pronounce it as "wun" instead of "won"--or as the pronunciation I like the most: "one"--would I give you assonance for that.
And then there's
us -- four
I don't know. Am I missing something or is someone mistaken about the way this poem functions? Smartstocks ( talk) 20:11, 18 October 2020 (UTC)