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A few weeks ago, a very pro-Israel wikipedian asked the deletion of the french language Wikipedia article fr:Pallywood. I guess that the motive is obvious. Visite fortuitement prolongée ( talk) 10:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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Please change "say" to "said" in the second line of Other Uses. HerPOV ( talk) 12:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
If anyone is able to make updates of this article it'd be appreciated. There has been a lot of misinformation spreading on Twitter/X (as well as elsewhere) related to "Pallywood", since the recent 2023 Israel-Hamas conflict, and overall this article seems very outdated. Even if only by about a month or so and lacking further sources.
Here are some references, not sure what can be considered reliable or relevant, but it's what is currently available for this fast developing topic.
Notably ADL & Rolling Stone have labelled this as a conspiracy, which I see is currently touched upon briefly under Controversies and criticism but should probably be based in intro too in my opinion.
Recent fact checks related to Pallwood:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-crisis-actor-israel-hamas-war-false-movie-set-975355588351
https://fullfact.org/news/gaza-egypt-bodies-protest/
https://fullfact.org/online/halloween-costume-not-gaza-bodybag/
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-israel-hamas-gaza-crisis-actors-131062994735
Articles referencing "Pallywood" a as conspiracy theory:
https://www.logicallyfacts.com/en/analysis/pallywood-how-denial-of-civilian-harm-has-proliferated
https://thewire.in/world/fact-check-unedited-footage-debunks-israeli-propaganda-on-shrouded-corpse
Related to Saleh Aljafarawi aka "Mr Fafo", sometimes referenced to as "Mr Pallywood":
Overall it seems like it will be more widely accepted that Pallywood is indeed a conspiracy theory based on it's current usage, even if it's origins are based on some events from past usage. Even if it's too soon for that change until there are more sources available to confirm.
Can return with more sources when they arrive if welcomed. Thanks in advance. CommunityNotesContributor ( talk) 22:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
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Change “Needless to say, such episodes don’t instil an abiding trust in subsequent Palestinian claims, at least until they’re verified."[16]” to “Needless to say, such episodes don’t instil an abiding trust in subsequent Palestinian claims, at least until they’re verified."[16] Philip Weiss has echoed the concerns of others that use of the term amounts to “denial of war crimes”. [17] ”
Citation #17 for edit: https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/an-americans-shattered-faith/
(Reasoning: The “Other Uses” portion of the page includes only conservative Jewish and/or Israeli voices around the use of the term “Pallywood” as well as a quote from Michelle Malkin, who is now widely considered as antisemitic by the community and has been dropped by organizations such as the Young Americans Foundation as a result. It would be valuable to neutrality to include the voice of a Jewish progressive perspective on this section. I have cited the article above, written in 2023 by Philip Weiss of Mondoweiss. Philip Weiss’ name should further be linked to his Wikipedia page when mentioned: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Weiss) 142.198.100.236 ( talk) 21:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Is Mondoweiss even a reliable source? Not sure why it's used on this article, when it's surrounded by constant acrimony... AnonMoos ( talk) 09:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
They clearly are not WP:NPOV and provide a lot more polarized claims in one direction without any criticism. They belong more in the historical section, and should also be placed in context with what others say. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 17:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
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A few weeks ago, a very pro-Israel wikipedian asked the deletion of the french language Wikipedia article fr:Pallywood. I guess that the motive is obvious. Visite fortuitement prolongée ( talk) 10:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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Please change "say" to "said" in the second line of Other Uses. HerPOV ( talk) 12:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
If anyone is able to make updates of this article it'd be appreciated. There has been a lot of misinformation spreading on Twitter/X (as well as elsewhere) related to "Pallywood", since the recent 2023 Israel-Hamas conflict, and overall this article seems very outdated. Even if only by about a month or so and lacking further sources.
Here are some references, not sure what can be considered reliable or relevant, but it's what is currently available for this fast developing topic.
Notably ADL & Rolling Stone have labelled this as a conspiracy, which I see is currently touched upon briefly under Controversies and criticism but should probably be based in intro too in my opinion.
Recent fact checks related to Pallwood:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-crisis-actor-israel-hamas-war-false-movie-set-975355588351
https://fullfact.org/news/gaza-egypt-bodies-protest/
https://fullfact.org/online/halloween-costume-not-gaza-bodybag/
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-israel-hamas-gaza-crisis-actors-131062994735
Articles referencing "Pallywood" a as conspiracy theory:
https://www.logicallyfacts.com/en/analysis/pallywood-how-denial-of-civilian-harm-has-proliferated
https://thewire.in/world/fact-check-unedited-footage-debunks-israeli-propaganda-on-shrouded-corpse
Related to Saleh Aljafarawi aka "Mr Fafo", sometimes referenced to as "Mr Pallywood":
Overall it seems like it will be more widely accepted that Pallywood is indeed a conspiracy theory based on it's current usage, even if it's origins are based on some events from past usage. Even if it's too soon for that change until there are more sources available to confirm.
Can return with more sources when they arrive if welcomed. Thanks in advance. CommunityNotesContributor ( talk) 22:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change “Needless to say, such episodes don’t instil an abiding trust in subsequent Palestinian claims, at least until they’re verified."[16]” to “Needless to say, such episodes don’t instil an abiding trust in subsequent Palestinian claims, at least until they’re verified."[16] Philip Weiss has echoed the concerns of others that use of the term amounts to “denial of war crimes”. [17] ”
Citation #17 for edit: https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/an-americans-shattered-faith/
(Reasoning: The “Other Uses” portion of the page includes only conservative Jewish and/or Israeli voices around the use of the term “Pallywood” as well as a quote from Michelle Malkin, who is now widely considered as antisemitic by the community and has been dropped by organizations such as the Young Americans Foundation as a result. It would be valuable to neutrality to include the voice of a Jewish progressive perspective on this section. I have cited the article above, written in 2023 by Philip Weiss of Mondoweiss. Philip Weiss’ name should further be linked to his Wikipedia page when mentioned: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Weiss) 142.198.100.236 ( talk) 21:42, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Is Mondoweiss even a reliable source? Not sure why it's used on this article, when it's surrounded by constant acrimony... AnonMoos ( talk) 09:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
They clearly are not WP:NPOV and provide a lot more polarized claims in one direction without any criticism. They belong more in the historical section, and should also be placed in context with what others say. User:Sawerchessread ( talk) 17:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)