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Not sure if the proposed merge is a good idea, simply because it might make the Pipe Organ article a bit too lengthy. Madder 20:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe there is a better way to present the information in the "Variation in timbre" section. Currently, it is simply an outline, but I think it would be nicer to have it written out, possibly with a little more information about each point. For example, instead of just saying "Tin" or "Wood," explain how the sound differs with each, etc.
Also, it would be nice to have some more (or simply better) pictures of individual pipes. www.organstops.org has a collection of some great pictures of individual pipes...
I'll work a little on this when I've got some more time. I don't believe this article needs to be merged with another, but it could use some work.
- Matthew (SuperOctave) 26 November 2006
I've just tidied this some more, no reason to revert! Either the subsections of variations of timbre (what a horrible section title...) could be expanded on in flue/reed pipe, or they can be brought together here. Not sure really! – MDCollins ( talk) 00:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I've removed a sentence that purports to explain why the pitch of a closed pipe is an octave lower than that of an open pipe. The explanation doesn't stand up to a physicist's scrutiny; I'm happy to engage in a more detailed discussion. The pitch change seems more profound than the change in timbre, so I've moved that sentence into the lead. A similar change now appears in the flue pipe article. -- Ernst Grundke ( talk) 19:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
This appears to be the edit in question.
Agree that the removed folk-physics was inaccurate and misleading, but I can see what the writer was trying to say. It's the wave that travels travels both up and down the body of the pipe, doubling the length of the column, not the wind itself. But the up and down is a good concept.
An even better way of describing it is of course in terms of nodes and antinodes. This is what Helmholtz does in Sensations of Tone, from memory. It also explains the rohrflote (aka chimney flute... those redlinks need fixing) and similar stops.
Both helpful concepts could I'm sure be sourced, and belong in our article space somewhere, probably in the flue pipe article mainly. Andrewa ( talk) 20:56, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
When a pipe is referred to a 8' etc. the length is to the top end of the pipe; but from what point? ie where do we measure eight feet from? Is it from the lip, or from the very lowest end, or some other point? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 16:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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these doodads sound splendid : ) IHATETHOSETHINGS ( talk) 17:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Not sure if the proposed merge is a good idea, simply because it might make the Pipe Organ article a bit too lengthy. Madder 20:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe there is a better way to present the information in the "Variation in timbre" section. Currently, it is simply an outline, but I think it would be nicer to have it written out, possibly with a little more information about each point. For example, instead of just saying "Tin" or "Wood," explain how the sound differs with each, etc.
Also, it would be nice to have some more (or simply better) pictures of individual pipes. www.organstops.org has a collection of some great pictures of individual pipes...
I'll work a little on this when I've got some more time. I don't believe this article needs to be merged with another, but it could use some work.
- Matthew (SuperOctave) 26 November 2006
I've just tidied this some more, no reason to revert! Either the subsections of variations of timbre (what a horrible section title...) could be expanded on in flue/reed pipe, or they can be brought together here. Not sure really! – MDCollins ( talk) 00:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I've removed a sentence that purports to explain why the pitch of a closed pipe is an octave lower than that of an open pipe. The explanation doesn't stand up to a physicist's scrutiny; I'm happy to engage in a more detailed discussion. The pitch change seems more profound than the change in timbre, so I've moved that sentence into the lead. A similar change now appears in the flue pipe article. -- Ernst Grundke ( talk) 19:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
This appears to be the edit in question.
Agree that the removed folk-physics was inaccurate and misleading, but I can see what the writer was trying to say. It's the wave that travels travels both up and down the body of the pipe, doubling the length of the column, not the wind itself. But the up and down is a good concept.
An even better way of describing it is of course in terms of nodes and antinodes. This is what Helmholtz does in Sensations of Tone, from memory. It also explains the rohrflote (aka chimney flute... those redlinks need fixing) and similar stops.
Both helpful concepts could I'm sure be sourced, and belong in our article space somewhere, probably in the flue pipe article mainly. Andrewa ( talk) 20:56, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
When a pipe is referred to a 8' etc. the length is to the top end of the pipe; but from what point? ie where do we measure eight feet from? Is it from the lip, or from the very lowest end, or some other point? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 16:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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these doodads sound splendid : ) IHATETHOSETHINGS ( talk) 17:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)