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I do not like this todo on a seperate page and in a little box as I think it stifles discussion, so I've moved any todos which are not agreed upon out here. I think we should discuss them first, then move them to seperate todo when its clear that something should be done. To this end I have also added my comments below. NicM 17:16, 29 January 2006 (UTC).
I just put the old discussions into the side there, it was starting to get really long in this page. Janizary 16:48, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you know. The purpose of featuring an article is both to point readers to the article and to highlight it to potential contributors. It will remain the feature for a week or so. Gronky 12:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:-)
I think that it may be nice to add in a bit about how the project is structured, I'm not volunteering for it of course, just throwing the idea out, as I've not even finished my work on the OpenBSD history article. I don't think we can get away with the Theocracy pun, but talking about how de Raadt has the final say on anything done in the system, how contributors can get commit bits and eventually become central developers that make key contributions to various areas of the system may be nice for anyone reading. Janizary 08:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
The Secuirity and Code Auditing section seems to have a POV, especially comments regarding attitudes of other developers. Arnob 17:32, February 10, 2006
How's this technical shit coming along? And your history page blows. Hell, I could do the two of them faster than you monkeys. What happen, relatives of both of you die? You die? There was a flurry of work on the article and then this sputtering death throw. Where's the passion? Where's the editors? 65.95.125.69 07:27, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Why not link Openwall in the See alsos? Tinfoil hat systems should be linking one another in the See alsos because of their relation to one another, like, PaX should link OpenBSD and OpenBSD should link PaX (and grsecurity, Adamantix, TrustedBSD extensions to FreeBSD). I think it makes sense because of the related goal of security with them all. 65.94.60.22 22:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
well you can see the people in charge of this page want it to be openbsd centric...no mention of the disadvantages, such as a lack of mandatory access controls... —This unsigned comment was added by 131.181.251.66 ( talk • contribs) .
The images of the Puffy mascot were deleted, someone registered should reupload them. 65.95.124.5 22:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
We have far too many yellow boxes at the top of this page, so I've compacted all the less useful ones into one single one. Having so many you can't even see the start of the real page is horribly ugly and intimidating for new users. It would be different if all of them were important or useful but most of these are just fluff. If compacting them isn't right, we need to select which ones are really important and list the rest as archived (like Talk:Hydrochloric_acid), remove them, or list them in a different way. I'd say list the todo list as a proper section at the top of the page rather than a box, list the peer review as archived, lose the userbox one or mention it in a section, and keep the FA and the main page one. Not sure about the crypto project at all, this article is mostly not about cryptography, OpenSSH perhaps, but I'm not convinced about OpenBSD. NicM 07:17, 3 April 2006 (UTC).
In the article "OpenBSD security features", footnotes 11 and 13 appear to be swapped, as are footnotes 10 and 12.
At this moment the article says that Puffy is a pufferfish. However this is inaccurate, as pufferfish do not have spines. The image is a porcupinefish which does have spines.
As a result this statement is incorrect:
A porcupinefish is not a pufferfish or a species of pufferfish. They are related, but not the same species or even the same family. I understand that the OpenBSD community has decided to name their logo a pufferfish, but this being an encyclopedia there should probably some note that technically the image is a porcupinefish and not a pufferfish. Janderk 12:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
It's curious to me that not much mention is made of FreeBSD. NetBSD is mentioned in the intro, but when you stumble across FreeBSD later in the article, the first thing you wonder is, "well, if FreeBSD is free, and OpenBSD is open, then what's the difference?" A quick sentence contrasting the two, early in the article (even in the lead?) would help a great deal. Are the two ever confused? Are they in competition? Are they both free (beer? speech?)? Are they both open? Are they compatible? etc. Stevage 12:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Theo has thoroughly documented this on his website at http://zeus.theos.com/deraadt/coremail.html. It is basically a mail archive, and is a lot of information to sift through, but is certainly not "unknown". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.250.100.34 ( talk • contribs) ..
Before I get reverted again: may I offer that Dutch spelling conventions say that the first article or adposition in a Dutch name should be capitalised when the first name is omitted? One would write either "Theo de Raadt" or "De Raadt". Will apply changes later today. Will wait.
Olav L 14:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
A section which is missing is the criticisms, so for the aid of anyone with the balls to write one, I am plopping out the ones I can think of:
I think since many sections are two parters, this stuff could be set up with the todo list's technical overview. Anyone else got some? 65.94.57.226 22:25, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
What is this sentence supposed to mean? Does it make any sense to anyone else? I can't figure it out.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.235.168.183 ( talk • contribs) .
So apparently, according to WP:EL#What_should_be_linked_to, external link (and books too, presumably) belong in the references section if they are used in the creation/editing/verification of the article, even if they are not inline (though they can be in subsections, of course). Anyways, were the items in the "External links" and "Books" sections used in the creation/editing/verification of the article? If so, I think they should be moved to subsections of the "Notes and references" section. Armedblowfish ( talk| mail| contribs) 19:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Oooh, excellent work guys. Can I get some of you to work on the unix and operating system articles? Ideogram 02:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
It might be nice to cover the connection between OpenBSD and OpenSSH in more detail. Maybe in its own separate section.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.244.71.19 ( talk • contribs) .
-> I thought it was quite remarkable that the two are related; especially since openssh is widely used. So, I think more emphasis is called for. But I don't know how to bring it out in the article itself though.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.114.83.92 ( talk • contribs) 2006-10-11T06:18:21.
-> OpenSSH is mentioned under "Licensing", and under "Security and code auditing" and in a discussion related to the puffy fish. So that is more as in by-the-by, and not as a notable point of interest. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.244.71.19 ( talk • contribs) .
I've moved the old stuff on in to archive 3, feel free to start those discussion up again here, just don't reply to them in the archive. Janizary 23:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
While this little factoid is true it has no place in the lead of the OpenBSD article, if anything it belongs in some of the notes in the ports collection article. Janizary 01:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, this year's Ruxcon is about to gear up and if the presentation, "Exploiting OpenBSD," has anything worth noting it may be good to add some stuff from or about it. This is kinda a notice to anyone who reads this and actually sees the presentation, since there has been no information on it and seems to be pretty smoke and mirrors at the moment, something vaguely about getting through all the security messures in OpenBSD, but they're not letting anything out until the presentation it seems. Janizary 14:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Wikipedia rules do not allow "fair use" images on non-article pages, so this means that Portal:Free software cannot use logos, mascots, etc. without explicit permission. I have some usable GNU art, and some usable Tux, but I don't want to add those until I have something else to balance out the GNU+Linux tilt that that art would give to the portal. Portal:Free_software will be applying for Featured portal status soon, and one thing is lacks is art.
I saw this page: http://openbsd.org/art4.html but the actual licence/permission terms aren't specified, and looking at Image:Paintedpuffy1000X907px.gif, it seems that commercial use is not allowed, which is an unacceptable restriction for use in non-articles on Wikipedia.
AFAICT, the only acceptable terms are:
So, can anyone point me to some BSD or OpenBSD pictures which are under one of those licences? Thanks. Gronky 00:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Article says: "The nascent BSD Certification project performed a usage survey which revealed that 32.8% of BSD users (1420 of 4330 respondents) were using OpenBSD,[10] placing it second of the four major BSD variants, behind FreeBSD with 77.0% and ahead of NetBSD with 16.3%.[11]"
32.8 + 77 + 16.3 > 100 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.101.68.207 ( talk • contribs).
NetBSD (the oldest of the three most popular BSD-based operating systems still active today, with FreeBSD being the third)
I thought FreeBSD was the oldest and then NetBSD and then OpenBSD —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.135.112.43 ( talk) 03:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC).
Just sorta added to it, but I think perhaps there should be a sub-page made, like the archives and todo which holds the assessment stuff, just having a link to it instead of the many templates repeating the same thing. All the stuff that mentions FA should probably be put there if it were to be done, but that ould probably mess up those templates' inner workings, how they add to various lists and whatnot, so I won't do any such thing myself. But I will leave this comment here, to fester in the minds of any who read it. 74.13.60.113 07:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
It's probably best not to use phrases like that, in case there isn't someone maintaining the page, if it does fall out of step with what presently is happening, would it not be best to have it state a date? Not that the people working on the article will disappear, but if they did, it would probably be for the best if everything was linked to a time, no? 74.13.57.76 23:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Technically OpenBSD is not a UNIX, it's a BSD, and while BSDs and UNIXes share code, they are not the same. In both conventions and in the actual implementation of many tools and systems, the UNIXes are different from OpenBSD. While OpenBSD has imported a UNIX compiler, awk and many other tools, that doesn't make them a UNIX. To do that at this point would require a big pile of money, as Apple has thrown around in order to get Mac OS X's most recent release certified. I have because of this reasoning, reverted the change from Unix-like to Unix. 74.13.43.249 00:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Think we can compile a list of OpenBSD releases similar to this table?
Colour | Meaning |
---|---|
Red | Old release; not supported |
Yellow | Old release; still supported |
Green | Current release |
Blue | Future release |
Version | Code name | Testing name | Release date | Supported until | Features and Changes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4.10 | Warty Warthog | Sounder | 2004-10-20 [1] | 2006-04-30 [2] | Initial release; ShipIt |
5.04 | Hoary Hedgehog | Array | 2005-04-08 [3] | 2006-10-31 [4] | Update Manager; Upgrade Notifier; readahead; grepmap; laptop suspend, hibernate and standby; dynamic frequency scaling; Ubuntu hardware database; Kickstart; installation from USB devices; UTF-8 by default; APT authentication |
5.10 | Breezy Badger | Colony | 2005-10-13 [5] [6] | 2007-04-13 [7] | Usplash (graphical boot sequence); "Add/Remove..." application tool; easy language selector; logical volume management support; full Hewlett-Packard printer support; OEM installer support; Launchpad integration |
6.06 LTS | Dapper Drake | Flight | 2006-06-01 [8] [9] | 2009- 06 (desktops) | Long Term Support (LTS) release; Live CD and Install CD merged onto one disc; Ubiquity graphical installer on Live CD; Usplash on shutdowns; Network Manager for easy switching of multiple wired and wireless connections; 'Humanlooks' theme implemented using Tango guidelines, based on Clearlooks and featuring orange colours instead of brown; LAMP installation option; installation to USB devices; GDebi graphical installer for package files [10] |
2011- 06 (servers) | |||||
6.10 | Edgy Eft | Knot | 2006-10-26 [11] [12] | 2008- 04 | Ubuntu 'Human' theme heavily modified; Upstart init daemon; automated crash reports (Apport); Tomboy notetaking application; F-spot photo manager; EasyUbuntu merges into Ubuntu via meta-package installs and features |
7.04 | Feisty Fawn | Herd | 2007-04-19 [13] | 2008- 10 | Migration assistant; Kernel-based Virtual Machine support; easy codec and restricted drivers installation; Compiz desktop effects; Wi-Fi Protected Access support; PowerPC support dropped; Sudoku and chess games added; disk usage analyser ( baobab) added; GNOME Control Center; Zeroconf for many devices |
7.10 | Gutsy Gibbon | Tribe | 2007-10-18 [14] [15] | 2009- 04 | Compiz Fusion by default; [16] AppArmor security framework; [17] fast desktop search; [18] fast user switching; [18] some plug-ins for Mozilla Firefox now handled by APT ( Ubufox); [19] graphical configuration tool for X.org; [19] a revamped printing system with PDF printing by default; [19] full NTFS support (read/write) via NTFS-3G |
8.04 LTS | Hardy Heron [20] | Alpha | 2008-04-24 [21] | 2011- 04 (desktops) | Long Term Support (LTS) release; [22] [23]; Better Tango compliance [24]; compiz usability improvements; tracker integration; [25]; Brasero disk burner, Transmission BitTorrent client and Vinagre VNC client by default [26]; PulseAudio by default [27] |
2013- 04 (servers) | |||||
8.10 | Intrepid Ibex<ref name="ubuntu_8.10_ish"/> | Alpha | 2008-10-30 | 2010- 04 | Complete interface redesign; improvements to mobile computing and desktop scalability; increased flexibility for Internet connectivity [28] |
Altonbr ( talk) 03:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. In the page Comparison of boot loaders, the column for OpenBSD (the only BSD of the table) is nearly empty. Could some people fill it with bootloaders able to boot OpenBSD ? JeromeJerome ( talk) 13:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
While I'll not agree with the subject's title, it seems pretty stable. I am just sort of wondering, "out loud," I think, but the article here seems to tinge a little too close to OpenBSD's perspective to be the top of the line, doesn't it? Could this not be made a little more distanced from the project's perspective? Are there no other information sources which can be used? Hell, I am not saying that the article needs a review, but after reading it, it seemed to be something that would be in an OpenBSD book or the official website. 74.13.48.202 ( talk) 11:45, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Hang on a tick, isn't the masterbating monkeys comment exactly what this article needs, in order to balance the perspective more? 74.13.28.55 ( talk) 17:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
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I do not like this todo on a seperate page and in a little box as I think it stifles discussion, so I've moved any todos which are not agreed upon out here. I think we should discuss them first, then move them to seperate todo when its clear that something should be done. To this end I have also added my comments below. NicM 17:16, 29 January 2006 (UTC).
I just put the old discussions into the side there, it was starting to get really long in this page. Janizary 16:48, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you know. The purpose of featuring an article is both to point readers to the article and to highlight it to potential contributors. It will remain the feature for a week or so. Gronky 12:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:-)
I think that it may be nice to add in a bit about how the project is structured, I'm not volunteering for it of course, just throwing the idea out, as I've not even finished my work on the OpenBSD history article. I don't think we can get away with the Theocracy pun, but talking about how de Raadt has the final say on anything done in the system, how contributors can get commit bits and eventually become central developers that make key contributions to various areas of the system may be nice for anyone reading. Janizary 08:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
The Secuirity and Code Auditing section seems to have a POV, especially comments regarding attitudes of other developers. Arnob 17:32, February 10, 2006
How's this technical shit coming along? And your history page blows. Hell, I could do the two of them faster than you monkeys. What happen, relatives of both of you die? You die? There was a flurry of work on the article and then this sputtering death throw. Where's the passion? Where's the editors? 65.95.125.69 07:27, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Why not link Openwall in the See alsos? Tinfoil hat systems should be linking one another in the See alsos because of their relation to one another, like, PaX should link OpenBSD and OpenBSD should link PaX (and grsecurity, Adamantix, TrustedBSD extensions to FreeBSD). I think it makes sense because of the related goal of security with them all. 65.94.60.22 22:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
well you can see the people in charge of this page want it to be openbsd centric...no mention of the disadvantages, such as a lack of mandatory access controls... —This unsigned comment was added by 131.181.251.66 ( talk • contribs) .
The images of the Puffy mascot were deleted, someone registered should reupload them. 65.95.124.5 22:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
We have far too many yellow boxes at the top of this page, so I've compacted all the less useful ones into one single one. Having so many you can't even see the start of the real page is horribly ugly and intimidating for new users. It would be different if all of them were important or useful but most of these are just fluff. If compacting them isn't right, we need to select which ones are really important and list the rest as archived (like Talk:Hydrochloric_acid), remove them, or list them in a different way. I'd say list the todo list as a proper section at the top of the page rather than a box, list the peer review as archived, lose the userbox one or mention it in a section, and keep the FA and the main page one. Not sure about the crypto project at all, this article is mostly not about cryptography, OpenSSH perhaps, but I'm not convinced about OpenBSD. NicM 07:17, 3 April 2006 (UTC).
In the article "OpenBSD security features", footnotes 11 and 13 appear to be swapped, as are footnotes 10 and 12.
At this moment the article says that Puffy is a pufferfish. However this is inaccurate, as pufferfish do not have spines. The image is a porcupinefish which does have spines.
As a result this statement is incorrect:
A porcupinefish is not a pufferfish or a species of pufferfish. They are related, but not the same species or even the same family. I understand that the OpenBSD community has decided to name their logo a pufferfish, but this being an encyclopedia there should probably some note that technically the image is a porcupinefish and not a pufferfish. Janderk 12:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
It's curious to me that not much mention is made of FreeBSD. NetBSD is mentioned in the intro, but when you stumble across FreeBSD later in the article, the first thing you wonder is, "well, if FreeBSD is free, and OpenBSD is open, then what's the difference?" A quick sentence contrasting the two, early in the article (even in the lead?) would help a great deal. Are the two ever confused? Are they in competition? Are they both free (beer? speech?)? Are they both open? Are they compatible? etc. Stevage 12:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Theo has thoroughly documented this on his website at http://zeus.theos.com/deraadt/coremail.html. It is basically a mail archive, and is a lot of information to sift through, but is certainly not "unknown". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.250.100.34 ( talk • contribs) ..
Before I get reverted again: may I offer that Dutch spelling conventions say that the first article or adposition in a Dutch name should be capitalised when the first name is omitted? One would write either "Theo de Raadt" or "De Raadt". Will apply changes later today. Will wait.
Olav L 14:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
A section which is missing is the criticisms, so for the aid of anyone with the balls to write one, I am plopping out the ones I can think of:
I think since many sections are two parters, this stuff could be set up with the todo list's technical overview. Anyone else got some? 65.94.57.226 22:25, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
What is this sentence supposed to mean? Does it make any sense to anyone else? I can't figure it out.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.235.168.183 ( talk • contribs) .
So apparently, according to WP:EL#What_should_be_linked_to, external link (and books too, presumably) belong in the references section if they are used in the creation/editing/verification of the article, even if they are not inline (though they can be in subsections, of course). Anyways, were the items in the "External links" and "Books" sections used in the creation/editing/verification of the article? If so, I think they should be moved to subsections of the "Notes and references" section. Armedblowfish ( talk| mail| contribs) 19:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Oooh, excellent work guys. Can I get some of you to work on the unix and operating system articles? Ideogram 02:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
It might be nice to cover the connection between OpenBSD and OpenSSH in more detail. Maybe in its own separate section.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.244.71.19 ( talk • contribs) .
-> I thought it was quite remarkable that the two are related; especially since openssh is widely used. So, I think more emphasis is called for. But I don't know how to bring it out in the article itself though.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.114.83.92 ( talk • contribs) 2006-10-11T06:18:21.
-> OpenSSH is mentioned under "Licensing", and under "Security and code auditing" and in a discussion related to the puffy fish. So that is more as in by-the-by, and not as a notable point of interest. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.244.71.19 ( talk • contribs) .
I've moved the old stuff on in to archive 3, feel free to start those discussion up again here, just don't reply to them in the archive. Janizary 23:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
While this little factoid is true it has no place in the lead of the OpenBSD article, if anything it belongs in some of the notes in the ports collection article. Janizary 01:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, this year's Ruxcon is about to gear up and if the presentation, "Exploiting OpenBSD," has anything worth noting it may be good to add some stuff from or about it. This is kinda a notice to anyone who reads this and actually sees the presentation, since there has been no information on it and seems to be pretty smoke and mirrors at the moment, something vaguely about getting through all the security messures in OpenBSD, but they're not letting anything out until the presentation it seems. Janizary 14:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Wikipedia rules do not allow "fair use" images on non-article pages, so this means that Portal:Free software cannot use logos, mascots, etc. without explicit permission. I have some usable GNU art, and some usable Tux, but I don't want to add those until I have something else to balance out the GNU+Linux tilt that that art would give to the portal. Portal:Free_software will be applying for Featured portal status soon, and one thing is lacks is art.
I saw this page: http://openbsd.org/art4.html but the actual licence/permission terms aren't specified, and looking at Image:Paintedpuffy1000X907px.gif, it seems that commercial use is not allowed, which is an unacceptable restriction for use in non-articles on Wikipedia.
AFAICT, the only acceptable terms are:
So, can anyone point me to some BSD or OpenBSD pictures which are under one of those licences? Thanks. Gronky 00:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Article says: "The nascent BSD Certification project performed a usage survey which revealed that 32.8% of BSD users (1420 of 4330 respondents) were using OpenBSD,[10] placing it second of the four major BSD variants, behind FreeBSD with 77.0% and ahead of NetBSD with 16.3%.[11]"
32.8 + 77 + 16.3 > 100 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.101.68.207 ( talk • contribs).
NetBSD (the oldest of the three most popular BSD-based operating systems still active today, with FreeBSD being the third)
I thought FreeBSD was the oldest and then NetBSD and then OpenBSD —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.135.112.43 ( talk) 03:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC).
Just sorta added to it, but I think perhaps there should be a sub-page made, like the archives and todo which holds the assessment stuff, just having a link to it instead of the many templates repeating the same thing. All the stuff that mentions FA should probably be put there if it were to be done, but that ould probably mess up those templates' inner workings, how they add to various lists and whatnot, so I won't do any such thing myself. But I will leave this comment here, to fester in the minds of any who read it. 74.13.60.113 07:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
It's probably best not to use phrases like that, in case there isn't someone maintaining the page, if it does fall out of step with what presently is happening, would it not be best to have it state a date? Not that the people working on the article will disappear, but if they did, it would probably be for the best if everything was linked to a time, no? 74.13.57.76 23:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Technically OpenBSD is not a UNIX, it's a BSD, and while BSDs and UNIXes share code, they are not the same. In both conventions and in the actual implementation of many tools and systems, the UNIXes are different from OpenBSD. While OpenBSD has imported a UNIX compiler, awk and many other tools, that doesn't make them a UNIX. To do that at this point would require a big pile of money, as Apple has thrown around in order to get Mac OS X's most recent release certified. I have because of this reasoning, reverted the change from Unix-like to Unix. 74.13.43.249 00:52, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Think we can compile a list of OpenBSD releases similar to this table?
Colour | Meaning |
---|---|
Red | Old release; not supported |
Yellow | Old release; still supported |
Green | Current release |
Blue | Future release |
Version | Code name | Testing name | Release date | Supported until | Features and Changes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
4.10 | Warty Warthog | Sounder | 2004-10-20 [1] | 2006-04-30 [2] | Initial release; ShipIt |
5.04 | Hoary Hedgehog | Array | 2005-04-08 [3] | 2006-10-31 [4] | Update Manager; Upgrade Notifier; readahead; grepmap; laptop suspend, hibernate and standby; dynamic frequency scaling; Ubuntu hardware database; Kickstart; installation from USB devices; UTF-8 by default; APT authentication |
5.10 | Breezy Badger | Colony | 2005-10-13 [5] [6] | 2007-04-13 [7] | Usplash (graphical boot sequence); "Add/Remove..." application tool; easy language selector; logical volume management support; full Hewlett-Packard printer support; OEM installer support; Launchpad integration |
6.06 LTS | Dapper Drake | Flight | 2006-06-01 [8] [9] | 2009- 06 (desktops) | Long Term Support (LTS) release; Live CD and Install CD merged onto one disc; Ubiquity graphical installer on Live CD; Usplash on shutdowns; Network Manager for easy switching of multiple wired and wireless connections; 'Humanlooks' theme implemented using Tango guidelines, based on Clearlooks and featuring orange colours instead of brown; LAMP installation option; installation to USB devices; GDebi graphical installer for package files [10] |
2011- 06 (servers) | |||||
6.10 | Edgy Eft | Knot | 2006-10-26 [11] [12] | 2008- 04 | Ubuntu 'Human' theme heavily modified; Upstart init daemon; automated crash reports (Apport); Tomboy notetaking application; F-spot photo manager; EasyUbuntu merges into Ubuntu via meta-package installs and features |
7.04 | Feisty Fawn | Herd | 2007-04-19 [13] | 2008- 10 | Migration assistant; Kernel-based Virtual Machine support; easy codec and restricted drivers installation; Compiz desktop effects; Wi-Fi Protected Access support; PowerPC support dropped; Sudoku and chess games added; disk usage analyser ( baobab) added; GNOME Control Center; Zeroconf for many devices |
7.10 | Gutsy Gibbon | Tribe | 2007-10-18 [14] [15] | 2009- 04 | Compiz Fusion by default; [16] AppArmor security framework; [17] fast desktop search; [18] fast user switching; [18] some plug-ins for Mozilla Firefox now handled by APT ( Ubufox); [19] graphical configuration tool for X.org; [19] a revamped printing system with PDF printing by default; [19] full NTFS support (read/write) via NTFS-3G |
8.04 LTS | Hardy Heron [20] | Alpha | 2008-04-24 [21] | 2011- 04 (desktops) | Long Term Support (LTS) release; [22] [23]; Better Tango compliance [24]; compiz usability improvements; tracker integration; [25]; Brasero disk burner, Transmission BitTorrent client and Vinagre VNC client by default [26]; PulseAudio by default [27] |
2013- 04 (servers) | |||||
8.10 | Intrepid Ibex<ref name="ubuntu_8.10_ish"/> | Alpha | 2008-10-30 | 2010- 04 | Complete interface redesign; improvements to mobile computing and desktop scalability; increased flexibility for Internet connectivity [28] |
Altonbr ( talk) 03:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. In the page Comparison of boot loaders, the column for OpenBSD (the only BSD of the table) is nearly empty. Could some people fill it with bootloaders able to boot OpenBSD ? JeromeJerome ( talk) 13:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
While I'll not agree with the subject's title, it seems pretty stable. I am just sort of wondering, "out loud," I think, but the article here seems to tinge a little too close to OpenBSD's perspective to be the top of the line, doesn't it? Could this not be made a little more distanced from the project's perspective? Are there no other information sources which can be used? Hell, I am not saying that the article needs a review, but after reading it, it seemed to be something that would be in an OpenBSD book or the official website. 74.13.48.202 ( talk) 11:45, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Hang on a tick, isn't the masterbating monkeys comment exactly what this article needs, in order to balance the perspective more? 74.13.28.55 ( talk) 17:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
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