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DateProcessResult
April 3, 2009 Good article nomineeListed
January 23, 2010 Featured article candidateNot promoted
March 30, 2010 Peer reviewReviewed
April 22, 2010 Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " Did you know?" column on March 24, 2009.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Tin Pan Alley song " On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away" by Paul Dresser, Indiana's state song, became its first official state symbol in 1913?
Current status: Featured article


A suggestion

Hi. Nice article! A couple of things jumped out at me, though, that could maybe be improved. Maybe the Rufus Wainright version that there's the sample for should be mentioned in Adaptations for coherence within the article. Then, I'd recommend moving the Rufus Wainright sample down to the Adaptations section. At the very least, the Harry MacDonough version should be before the Wainright version for chronological reasons (a historical version before a recent one).
Sincerely, Moisejp ( talk) 03:20, 1 January 2012 (UTC) reply

Recordings

I moved the following here. There are no sources, but could be added back once sourcing is found:

Joan Morris and William Bolcom have recorded the song twice: once, in 1974, on their debut album, After the Ball, and again, on their 1989 live concert album, Let's Do It.

Molly Watson and Eugene Cline recorded the song on their album, Bird in a Gilded Cage.

A rock arrangement by a band called Dessau appears on a CD titled Coolidge 50: Bands from Each State Performing Their State Song.

Pianist/singer Tom Bopp has recorded the song on his CD, Parlor Piano.

citation page number corrections

I noticed in reviewing the content that some of the citation page numbers provided in reference to Clayton Henderson's book weren't accurate. I corrected the citation page number when I could locate the reference from his book. There were a couple of instances where I couldn't identify a correct page number, at least not from the content presented, so I've left those alone. Is there something specific I should do to identify the particular page citations that need to be corrected? The citation could be referencing other source material; they don't appear to have come from Henderson's biography of Dresser. Rosalina523 ( talk) 20:20, 12 February 2013 (UTC) reply

Something that tends to happen when an article is heavily copy-editted during the FA review process is that citations tend to migrate away from the point they belong, and sometimes the copyeditting results in unintentional material changes to the article. When I come across points like that, and I can't easily figure out the original text or source, IMO, its best to just remove the sentence or piece from the article altogether to maintain its integrity. Especially on a featured article. I have not been keeping up all the articles I worked on very well the last couple years, so I certainly encourage you to err on the side of caution and just remove things that you think may be out of order if you can't find a way to correct it. :) — Charles Edward ( Talk |  Contribs) 17:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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26 bars claim

I can't seem to verify the claim that "Twenty-six bars" were copied in "Back Home Again in Indiana". I don't see that number mentioned in the references.

There are 3 sources cited in the paragraphs relevant to the "Back Home Again" dispute.

  • Henderson's book- page 246 is cited, but doesn't seem to be at all related to "Back Home Again". The only pages of Henderson's book mentioning the song or James Hanley seem to be pages 322-24, which don't say anything about the how many bars were copied and/or given permission to copy.
  • Loving's book doesn't appear to talk about "Back Home Again" either. (Loving 117 only covers the controversy between Paul and his brother).
  • The archived Indiana Historical Society page mentions that Hanley and Macdonald supposedly got permisssion to copy 2 bars. So that's where the two bar number comes from. But it doesn't say anything about 26 bars being copied.

The "twenty-six bars" figure was introduced in this revision .

This edit didn't add any new references, but the lyric examples it added appear to be taken from Henderson 322. But again I find no mention in Henderon of the number of bars copied. And as mentioned before, I don't find anything about it in the other sources used in that section. Not sure where the number 26 came from, perhaps original research or another unreferenced source?

2601:249:1880:9390:7D7A:1B7:AECE:4EB8 ( talk) 20:37, 17 September 2023 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Featured articleOn the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on January 1, 2012.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 3, 2009 Good article nomineeListed
January 23, 2010 Featured article candidateNot promoted
March 30, 2010 Peer reviewReviewed
April 22, 2010 Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " Did you know?" column on March 24, 2009.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Tin Pan Alley song " On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away" by Paul Dresser, Indiana's state song, became its first official state symbol in 1913?
Current status: Featured article


A suggestion

Hi. Nice article! A couple of things jumped out at me, though, that could maybe be improved. Maybe the Rufus Wainright version that there's the sample for should be mentioned in Adaptations for coherence within the article. Then, I'd recommend moving the Rufus Wainright sample down to the Adaptations section. At the very least, the Harry MacDonough version should be before the Wainright version for chronological reasons (a historical version before a recent one).
Sincerely, Moisejp ( talk) 03:20, 1 January 2012 (UTC) reply

Recordings

I moved the following here. There are no sources, but could be added back once sourcing is found:

Joan Morris and William Bolcom have recorded the song twice: once, in 1974, on their debut album, After the Ball, and again, on their 1989 live concert album, Let's Do It.

Molly Watson and Eugene Cline recorded the song on their album, Bird in a Gilded Cage.

A rock arrangement by a band called Dessau appears on a CD titled Coolidge 50: Bands from Each State Performing Their State Song.

Pianist/singer Tom Bopp has recorded the song on his CD, Parlor Piano.

citation page number corrections

I noticed in reviewing the content that some of the citation page numbers provided in reference to Clayton Henderson's book weren't accurate. I corrected the citation page number when I could locate the reference from his book. There were a couple of instances where I couldn't identify a correct page number, at least not from the content presented, so I've left those alone. Is there something specific I should do to identify the particular page citations that need to be corrected? The citation could be referencing other source material; they don't appear to have come from Henderson's biography of Dresser. Rosalina523 ( talk) 20:20, 12 February 2013 (UTC) reply

Something that tends to happen when an article is heavily copy-editted during the FA review process is that citations tend to migrate away from the point they belong, and sometimes the copyeditting results in unintentional material changes to the article. When I come across points like that, and I can't easily figure out the original text or source, IMO, its best to just remove the sentence or piece from the article altogether to maintain its integrity. Especially on a featured article. I have not been keeping up all the articles I worked on very well the last couple years, so I certainly encourage you to err on the side of caution and just remove things that you think may be out of order if you can't find a way to correct it. :) — Charles Edward ( Talk |  Contribs) 17:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC) reply

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26 bars claim

I can't seem to verify the claim that "Twenty-six bars" were copied in "Back Home Again in Indiana". I don't see that number mentioned in the references.

There are 3 sources cited in the paragraphs relevant to the "Back Home Again" dispute.

  • Henderson's book- page 246 is cited, but doesn't seem to be at all related to "Back Home Again". The only pages of Henderson's book mentioning the song or James Hanley seem to be pages 322-24, which don't say anything about the how many bars were copied and/or given permission to copy.
  • Loving's book doesn't appear to talk about "Back Home Again" either. (Loving 117 only covers the controversy between Paul and his brother).
  • The archived Indiana Historical Society page mentions that Hanley and Macdonald supposedly got permisssion to copy 2 bars. So that's where the two bar number comes from. But it doesn't say anything about 26 bars being copied.

The "twenty-six bars" figure was introduced in this revision .

This edit didn't add any new references, but the lyric examples it added appear to be taken from Henderson 322. But again I find no mention in Henderon of the number of bars copied. And as mentioned before, I don't find anything about it in the other sources used in that section. Not sure where the number 26 came from, perhaps original research or another unreferenced source?

2601:249:1880:9390:7D7A:1B7:AECE:4EB8 ( talk) 20:37, 17 September 2023 (UTC) reply


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