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In the intro to the article it states: "the Northeastern region is the nation's most economically developed, densely populated, and culturally diverse region". Which appears to be a direct quote from one of the sources. I don't quibble to much with the first two. But culturally diverse? Maybe considering New York or New Jersey....but most of that region is heavily white. Especially the New England States. There are states in the deep south (for example) that have larger percentages of minorities than any state in the Northeast.....so I have to question that statement. Rja13ww33 ( talk) 21:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
The version that had been worked on over the years gained consensus in 2014 and has served its purpose well for more than 5 years. There is no good reason to take a step backward to the less inclusive map that was rejected. So the correct path would be to have the discussion here before changing it again. Maher-shalal-hashbaz ( talk) 14:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Actually, the pink areas on the map are there because the Environmental Protection Agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the National Fish and Wildlife Service, and the National Park Service all include states in the Northeast that aren't included in the Census Bureau's definition. So when you say "no one really believes West Virginia is part of the northeast," that sounds more like original research to me. Or personal preference. Don't get me wrong, I actually agree with you that West Virginia isn't really northeastern in character. But the reliable sources disagree. I am nearly 100% certain that no one considered the work of Howard Odum in shading this map. It was done merely based on the preponderance of reliable sources. This article is not merely about a region defined by the census bureau, so it makes no sense to limit the map to only that definition. Hokie RNB 20:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC}
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Is Washington DC really in the Northeast? I get that it's the nation's capital and is more cosmopolitan and upscale compared to the surrounding region, but geographically speaking something doesn't seem right. Having grown up in the NE myself, I've always had the impression that the region ends when New Jersey becomes Delaware. Jonathan f1 ( talk) 04:17, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
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In the intro to the article it states: "the Northeastern region is the nation's most economically developed, densely populated, and culturally diverse region". Which appears to be a direct quote from one of the sources. I don't quibble to much with the first two. But culturally diverse? Maybe considering New York or New Jersey....but most of that region is heavily white. Especially the New England States. There are states in the deep south (for example) that have larger percentages of minorities than any state in the Northeast.....so I have to question that statement. Rja13ww33 ( talk) 21:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
The version that had been worked on over the years gained consensus in 2014 and has served its purpose well for more than 5 years. There is no good reason to take a step backward to the less inclusive map that was rejected. So the correct path would be to have the discussion here before changing it again. Maher-shalal-hashbaz ( talk) 14:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Actually, the pink areas on the map are there because the Environmental Protection Agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the National Fish and Wildlife Service, and the National Park Service all include states in the Northeast that aren't included in the Census Bureau's definition. So when you say "no one really believes West Virginia is part of the northeast," that sounds more like original research to me. Or personal preference. Don't get me wrong, I actually agree with you that West Virginia isn't really northeastern in character. But the reliable sources disagree. I am nearly 100% certain that no one considered the work of Howard Odum in shading this map. It was done merely based on the preponderance of reliable sources. This article is not merely about a region defined by the census bureau, so it makes no sense to limit the map to only that definition. Hokie RNB 20:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC}
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Is Washington DC really in the Northeast? I get that it's the nation's capital and is more cosmopolitan and upscale compared to the surrounding region, but geographically speaking something doesn't seem right. Having grown up in the NE myself, I've always had the impression that the region ends when New Jersey becomes Delaware. Jonathan f1 ( talk) 04:17, 14 July 2023 (UTC)