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This was proposed for deletion as a hoax, but this person is in the
List of rulers of Kongo. There are also articles in other languages where a source is cited. I checked the source and I couldn't find this name but there is a mention of the person this refers to although with no years mentioned.
Peter James (
talk) 15:09, 18 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Peter James, the sources mentioned on other versions does not cite him. Or are not reliable. Let's see.
Catalan has
World Statesmen (a self-published site that does not cite any source) and Bertaux, Pierre (2001). The second one does not cites him (I have the pdf version of the book) in any page; The French version says it was translated from the English version (that never had sources) and someone mentioned Thornton, John (2001). This one also does not cites Nlaza;
Lingala has one phrase unsourced;
Ukrainian cites Bertaux;
Egyptian Arabic has a link to Google that shows tapestry (
here);
Korean has no sources.--
Renato de carvalho ferreira (
talk) 02:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)reply
According to
John Thornton (historian) cited in the French article: "Nzinga a Nkuwu, however, only came to the throne after two cousins (one of whom Cardoso named as Quinanga in his 1622 account) had ruled, together making five kings" and "Cardoso related that first his cousin Kinanga and then another cousin, presumably children of his father's siblings, ruled before him." So this article is about the other cousin, but I couldn't find a source for the name. I don't object to deletion, only to deletion without discussion as it would leave red links in other articles and appear to be a missing article in English that exists in other languages.
Peter James (
talk) 18:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Peter James and
Renato de carvalho ferreira: Take a look at the new source in the article at page 442. Attests to a king named Nlaza serving alongside (Qui)nanga. The chronology is not existent AFAICT, so cutting out those details seems appropriate for whoever cares to do so. I'm not interested in doing that - just to note that this probably isn't a hoax.
Urve (
talk) 07:57, 12 July 2021 (UTC)reply
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This was proposed for deletion as a hoax, but this person is in the
List of rulers of Kongo. There are also articles in other languages where a source is cited. I checked the source and I couldn't find this name but there is a mention of the person this refers to although with no years mentioned.
Peter James (
talk) 15:09, 18 April 2021 (UTC)reply
Peter James, the sources mentioned on other versions does not cite him. Or are not reliable. Let's see.
Catalan has
World Statesmen (a self-published site that does not cite any source) and Bertaux, Pierre (2001). The second one does not cites him (I have the pdf version of the book) in any page; The French version says it was translated from the English version (that never had sources) and someone mentioned Thornton, John (2001). This one also does not cites Nlaza;
Lingala has one phrase unsourced;
Ukrainian cites Bertaux;
Egyptian Arabic has a link to Google that shows tapestry (
here);
Korean has no sources.--
Renato de carvalho ferreira (
talk) 02:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)reply
According to
John Thornton (historian) cited in the French article: "Nzinga a Nkuwu, however, only came to the throne after two cousins (one of whom Cardoso named as Quinanga in his 1622 account) had ruled, together making five kings" and "Cardoso related that first his cousin Kinanga and then another cousin, presumably children of his father's siblings, ruled before him." So this article is about the other cousin, but I couldn't find a source for the name. I don't object to deletion, only to deletion without discussion as it would leave red links in other articles and appear to be a missing article in English that exists in other languages.
Peter James (
talk) 18:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Peter James and
Renato de carvalho ferreira: Take a look at the new source in the article at page 442. Attests to a king named Nlaza serving alongside (Qui)nanga. The chronology is not existent AFAICT, so cutting out those details seems appropriate for whoever cares to do so. I'm not interested in doing that - just to note that this probably isn't a hoax.
Urve (
talk) 07:57, 12 July 2021 (UTC)reply
