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Deleted the 'other meanings' section. This is covered by the Mute disambiguation page.
Karl Naylor 16:13, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)
We need pictures! Any offers?-- Light current 02:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
"On older pianos it was possible by use of the soft pedal to play only one, two or all three strings, making the distinction between una corda (one string) and due corde (two strings) meaningful, but this is no longer the case"
I sincerely doubt that concert quality instruments have abandoned the use of the Una Corda pedal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.163.114 ( talk • contribs)
I second the motion to merge the two, but also recommend the section on this page be cleaned up a bit and separated into smaller sections making it easier to navigate —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.34.0.92 ( talk) 23:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
Perhaps a section can be added displaying the correct (or most used) notation for each instruments when using mutes. Also, should "stopping" the Horn be covered in this article?
This section is beginning to look untidy, because we have discovered the a commonly used term for mute (in at least the world of the orchestra, etc.), that Italian word beginning with "s", and then realise we have to accommodate "with, without, not-mentioning-either", alongside each of: the abbreviation, the (grammatically correct) feminine noun, the (commonly used) masculine noun, then the singular and plural forms of masculine and feminine.
It needs someone to apply some clear economical thinking here and come up with something better.
The words to play with are:
"con" / "senza" / "___"
followed by
"sord." / "sordino" / "sordina" / "sordine" / "sordini"
My mute and I have played in orchestras and chamber music for many years, but shall say no more and throw this to someone else to try tidying. Good luck. P0mbal ( talk) 23:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I suggest that Sordino be merged into this article. From what I understand it's talking about the same kind of object. -- Eusebius ( talk) 09:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Much of the material from the Sordino article that is not already covered can be merged into the Mute article. I suggest that a abbreviated form of the Sordino article should remain specifically talking about it as a musical term. The Mute article should primarily be focused upon the physical objects. Ngaskill ( talk) 07:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I have created sub-sections for each different type of string and brass mutes. My model was the article Bowed string instrument extended technique. I think this change makes the article easier to navigate if you are looking for a specific mute. Also, whereas previously all the wiki-links for – let's say – plunger mutes linked to the brass section of the article, we can now link them to the new Plunger mute sub-section of the article instead. Any objections or comments? Squandermania ( talk) 20:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Jpgordon, yesterday I added a link to TrumpetExercises.net - Mutes because it has images and more importantly, sound samples that I didn't find from anywhere else. It's not a commercial site but VintageMutes.com, which was the only one you left, is.
You didn't define the weakness of the links, so I assume the images and sound examples were weak. In that case it's justifiable to remove the link. Altough, as I'm the author of the site, I'd like to know what was wrong with the samples so I can record better ones. Thanks!
- Janne, 91.152.193.171 ( talk) 04:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Andre Jolivet asks for a Robinson mute in one of his trumpet concertos. It gives a very soft, "distant" sound. Is this another mute or one of those describes in the article? -- megA ( talk) 12:04, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
From article: "Miles Davis often played through a Harmon mute without the stem." Could you please explain what is meant by stem? The word "stem" occurs only that one time in the article. ( PeacePeace ( talk) 18:17, 20 May 2016 (UTC))
What is Wikipedia's policy for editing pages with the intent of advertising a certain brand? Under brass mutes, I only see images for mutes under the Soulo brand. While they are definitely mutes of high quality, they are hardly the only mutes on the market; in fact, they are relative newcomers. I find it highly suspicious that the same user has applied images for Soulo's products to the page, right in the same time frame as each product was released on the market. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.242.57 ( talk) 14:55, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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Hi all,
I decided to rewrite the article from scratch on account of the lack of RS and excessive detail/OR in some sections. The edit history of the rewrite can be found here: [1]. It incorporates a couple sentences or so from the original article, but the rest is my own work.
If anyone has a solotone, derby/hat or whispa mute and would like to record audio for it, that would be great! I'm getting a friend to record a violin mute example, so that should be put in shortly. Also, it might be nice to have a recording of a straight mute on trombone. My overall goal for this article is to get it to GA. Cheers, Ovinus ( talk) 08:06, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Alright, I have fixed some cite errors and the article looks fine to me. Any recommendations for article improvements would be appreciated! Ovinus ( talk) 09:30, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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I will report here only the characteristic effect of a mute commonly used, a commercial 7-gram 5-prong, metal mute, cork separated. The findings are for a Venetian Zanoli violin dated about 1750.
... The situation is very complex but we have a very large mass of exact information on which we may make, among others, the following generalizations: ... 1. ... To our surprise it is shown that there is in general no lowering of the intensity of the fundamental. The decrease in intensity comes largely through the middle range of overtones. 2. The effect is quite radically different upon the four strings. For the G string, there is a general tendency to weaken all the overtones above the first to a marked extent. For the D string, there is a general tendency to weaken the first seven overtones and an irregular tendency to strengthen the highest overtones. For the A string, there is a general tendency to weaken the first four overtones and strengthen the next ten. For the E string, there is a tendency to weaken the first three overtones and strengthen the next six. |
Ovinus ( talk) 14:54, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Bowing a mute attached to the string's speaking part seems pretty far from mainstream technique. I've never seen or heard anything like it; of course that doesn't mean anything in terms of encyclopedic sourcing. As a side note, I did once witness a degree recital where the trombone soloist rolled the rim of his bell around on the strings under the lid of the accompanist's piano. I'd call that kind of thing more interesting than inspiring. Without access to the source for bowing a mute, I can't say much more about it. Just plain Bill ( talk) 16:14, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
2. A mute of appropriate size can be placed on the strings between the bridge and the end of the fingerboard. Both sides of the mute are then stroked with the bow. Cello and double bass are best suited for this technique." I, too, can't find any other sources about #2. Ovinus ( talk) 16:33, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Here is a bare-bones demo clip:
Just plain Bill ( talk) 00:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
With the rough edges I hear, I want to wait a while before putting it into the article. It is possible that I can coax another take from the violinist. Just plain Bill ( talk) 02:42, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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Deleted the 'other meanings' section. This is covered by the Mute disambiguation page.
Karl Naylor 16:13, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)
We need pictures! Any offers?-- Light current 02:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
"On older pianos it was possible by use of the soft pedal to play only one, two or all three strings, making the distinction between una corda (one string) and due corde (two strings) meaningful, but this is no longer the case"
I sincerely doubt that concert quality instruments have abandoned the use of the Una Corda pedal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.163.114 ( talk • contribs)
I second the motion to merge the two, but also recommend the section on this page be cleaned up a bit and separated into smaller sections making it easier to navigate —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.34.0.92 ( talk) 23:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
Perhaps a section can be added displaying the correct (or most used) notation for each instruments when using mutes. Also, should "stopping" the Horn be covered in this article?
This section is beginning to look untidy, because we have discovered the a commonly used term for mute (in at least the world of the orchestra, etc.), that Italian word beginning with "s", and then realise we have to accommodate "with, without, not-mentioning-either", alongside each of: the abbreviation, the (grammatically correct) feminine noun, the (commonly used) masculine noun, then the singular and plural forms of masculine and feminine.
It needs someone to apply some clear economical thinking here and come up with something better.
The words to play with are:
"con" / "senza" / "___"
followed by
"sord." / "sordino" / "sordina" / "sordine" / "sordini"
My mute and I have played in orchestras and chamber music for many years, but shall say no more and throw this to someone else to try tidying. Good luck. P0mbal ( talk) 23:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I suggest that Sordino be merged into this article. From what I understand it's talking about the same kind of object. -- Eusebius ( talk) 09:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Much of the material from the Sordino article that is not already covered can be merged into the Mute article. I suggest that a abbreviated form of the Sordino article should remain specifically talking about it as a musical term. The Mute article should primarily be focused upon the physical objects. Ngaskill ( talk) 07:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I have created sub-sections for each different type of string and brass mutes. My model was the article Bowed string instrument extended technique. I think this change makes the article easier to navigate if you are looking for a specific mute. Also, whereas previously all the wiki-links for – let's say – plunger mutes linked to the brass section of the article, we can now link them to the new Plunger mute sub-section of the article instead. Any objections or comments? Squandermania ( talk) 20:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Jpgordon, yesterday I added a link to TrumpetExercises.net - Mutes because it has images and more importantly, sound samples that I didn't find from anywhere else. It's not a commercial site but VintageMutes.com, which was the only one you left, is.
You didn't define the weakness of the links, so I assume the images and sound examples were weak. In that case it's justifiable to remove the link. Altough, as I'm the author of the site, I'd like to know what was wrong with the samples so I can record better ones. Thanks!
- Janne, 91.152.193.171 ( talk) 04:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Andre Jolivet asks for a Robinson mute in one of his trumpet concertos. It gives a very soft, "distant" sound. Is this another mute or one of those describes in the article? -- megA ( talk) 12:04, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
From article: "Miles Davis often played through a Harmon mute without the stem." Could you please explain what is meant by stem? The word "stem" occurs only that one time in the article. ( PeacePeace ( talk) 18:17, 20 May 2016 (UTC))
What is Wikipedia's policy for editing pages with the intent of advertising a certain brand? Under brass mutes, I only see images for mutes under the Soulo brand. While they are definitely mutes of high quality, they are hardly the only mutes on the market; in fact, they are relative newcomers. I find it highly suspicious that the same user has applied images for Soulo's products to the page, right in the same time frame as each product was released on the market. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.242.57 ( talk) 14:55, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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Hi all,
I decided to rewrite the article from scratch on account of the lack of RS and excessive detail/OR in some sections. The edit history of the rewrite can be found here: [1]. It incorporates a couple sentences or so from the original article, but the rest is my own work.
If anyone has a solotone, derby/hat or whispa mute and would like to record audio for it, that would be great! I'm getting a friend to record a violin mute example, so that should be put in shortly. Also, it might be nice to have a recording of a straight mute on trombone. My overall goal for this article is to get it to GA. Cheers, Ovinus ( talk) 08:06, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Alright, I have fixed some cite errors and the article looks fine to me. Any recommendations for article improvements would be appreciated! Ovinus ( talk) 09:30, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Extended content
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I will report here only the characteristic effect of a mute commonly used, a commercial 7-gram 5-prong, metal mute, cork separated. The findings are for a Venetian Zanoli violin dated about 1750.
... The situation is very complex but we have a very large mass of exact information on which we may make, among others, the following generalizations: ... 1. ... To our surprise it is shown that there is in general no lowering of the intensity of the fundamental. The decrease in intensity comes largely through the middle range of overtones. 2. The effect is quite radically different upon the four strings. For the G string, there is a general tendency to weaken all the overtones above the first to a marked extent. For the D string, there is a general tendency to weaken the first seven overtones and an irregular tendency to strengthen the highest overtones. For the A string, there is a general tendency to weaken the first four overtones and strengthen the next ten. For the E string, there is a tendency to weaken the first three overtones and strengthen the next six. |
Ovinus ( talk) 14:54, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Bowing a mute attached to the string's speaking part seems pretty far from mainstream technique. I've never seen or heard anything like it; of course that doesn't mean anything in terms of encyclopedic sourcing. As a side note, I did once witness a degree recital where the trombone soloist rolled the rim of his bell around on the strings under the lid of the accompanist's piano. I'd call that kind of thing more interesting than inspiring. Without access to the source for bowing a mute, I can't say much more about it. Just plain Bill ( talk) 16:14, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
2. A mute of appropriate size can be placed on the strings between the bridge and the end of the fingerboard. Both sides of the mute are then stroked with the bow. Cello and double bass are best suited for this technique." I, too, can't find any other sources about #2. Ovinus ( talk) 16:33, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Here is a bare-bones demo clip:
Just plain Bill ( talk) 00:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
With the rough edges I hear, I want to wait a while before putting it into the article. It is possible that I can coax another take from the violinist. Just plain Bill ( talk) 02:42, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.
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