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The map that shows the outline of Montreal is a bit misleading. When I first looked at it, I assumed the red area was all land. In fact, there are waterways running through it that I couldn't see until I zoomed into it. This made it very hard to identify Île Bizard or any other islands in the city, which is what I was looking for. A better map, which distinguishes between water and land, both in and out of the city, would be useful. I would do this myself, but I don't have the tools, don't know what tools would work, and don't know where I would get a starting-map. — MiguelMunoz ( talk) 01:57, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
plenty of discussions were made here with regards to the montage but they are all dated. Someone updated it with an image that was on the wikicommons, but someone deleted it without reason. We need to update the montage or at the very least the first picture of the skyline, as it is very outdated. A new one exists on the wikicommons, so why are we not using that?
132.205.236.34 ( talk) 17:28, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- 𝙄𝙠𝙤𝙣21 ❯❯❯ talk 06:01, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
The actual name of the city doesn't come from french but from occitan language. One of Cartier's officers, was precisely coming from Montreal in southern France. This is much more probable than an hypothetic italian origin. Montreal (and the reversed Réalmont) is a common toponym in southern France and unlike what is written in the article (although in 16th-century French the forms réal and royal were used interchangeably) in 16th century french Réal and Royal weren't interchangeable (hence Cartier speaking about the Mont Royal at first, renamed then by his fellow officer in his familial occitan form... I'll add that the first written occurency of Montreal in that form come from a gentilhomme from southern France Matieu Sokolovic ( talk) 12:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Pushpin location is showing Montreal being north of Rochester, NY and closer to Toronto. Montreal is actually north of Plattsburgh, NY and Lake Champlain. Push pin coordinates need to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.248.72.227 ( talk) 05:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Knowing next to nothing about Canadian French, a passage in the article Brigade-de-cuisine (John McPhee, in The New Yorker 1979 Feb. 19) made me curious enough to check this page's IPA:
Otto once tried to correct a captain’s pronunciation of “Montrachet.” He said, “Both ‘t’s are silent.”
The captain said, “No. One pronounces the first ‘t.’ ”
“Are you French-Canadian?” said Otto.
Was (the pseudonymous) Otto being facetious about canadiens or is there a syllable boundary issue in Montrachet? Sparafucil ( talk) 01:21, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
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I am adding a sustainability section. If anyone wishes to participate or help clean up and streamline other sections there is a discussion at the Canadian Wikipedians noticeboard regarding this project. It is a multi-city effort where we will be doing the same for other cities in Canada. TheKevlar 20:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Is this a joke? A user with no record of previously using this site randomly reverted my edit, citing a Wikipedia guideline that appears to exist only in his or her own imagination, and I am now supposed to waste my time reaching consensus? Is this meant to discourage occasional editors, who simply want to help out every now and then? Considering I had cited two very reliable sources, and no valid point had been made made to undermine my rationale, why on earth did you choose to revert my edit once again instead of, for instance, leaving it be until the hypothetical emergence of a cogent argument to question its soundness?
I apologise if I sometimes end up making personal attacks, but showing absolutely no respect for my time and the apparent lack of realisation that on the other side of the screen is a fellow human, from whose life you deduct with so little remorse, while not being a justification for my improper conduct, is the main reason behind it – and perhaps the foremost incentive for me to quit editing.
Since so far no case has been made whatsoever for retaining the current version of the article, I kindly appeal to @ Nardog – a well respected editor – to help us resolve this issue. Maciuf ( talk) 15:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Montreal ( /ˌmʌntriˈɔːl/ ⓘ MUN-tree-AWL or /ˌmɒn-/ MON-; [note 1] officially Montréal, French: [mɔ̃ʁeal] ⓘ) is...
Montreal ( /ˌmʌntriˈɔːl/ ⓘ MUN-tree-AWL or /ˌmɒn-/ MON-; [note 2] officially Montréal, French: [mɔ̃ʁeal] ⓘ) is...
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The map that shows the outline of Montreal is a bit misleading. When I first looked at it, I assumed the red area was all land. In fact, there are waterways running through it that I couldn't see until I zoomed into it. This made it very hard to identify Île Bizard or any other islands in the city, which is what I was looking for. A better map, which distinguishes between water and land, both in and out of the city, would be useful. I would do this myself, but I don't have the tools, don't know what tools would work, and don't know where I would get a starting-map. — MiguelMunoz ( talk) 01:57, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
plenty of discussions were made here with regards to the montage but they are all dated. Someone updated it with an image that was on the wikicommons, but someone deleted it without reason. We need to update the montage or at the very least the first picture of the skyline, as it is very outdated. A new one exists on the wikicommons, so why are we not using that?
132.205.236.34 ( talk) 17:28, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
- 𝙄𝙠𝙤𝙣21 ❯❯❯ talk 06:01, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
The actual name of the city doesn't come from french but from occitan language. One of Cartier's officers, was precisely coming from Montreal in southern France. This is much more probable than an hypothetic italian origin. Montreal (and the reversed Réalmont) is a common toponym in southern France and unlike what is written in the article (although in 16th-century French the forms réal and royal were used interchangeably) in 16th century french Réal and Royal weren't interchangeable (hence Cartier speaking about the Mont Royal at first, renamed then by his fellow officer in his familial occitan form... I'll add that the first written occurency of Montreal in that form come from a gentilhomme from southern France Matieu Sokolovic ( talk) 12:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Pushpin location is showing Montreal being north of Rochester, NY and closer to Toronto. Montreal is actually north of Plattsburgh, NY and Lake Champlain. Push pin coordinates need to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.248.72.227 ( talk) 05:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Knowing next to nothing about Canadian French, a passage in the article Brigade-de-cuisine (John McPhee, in The New Yorker 1979 Feb. 19) made me curious enough to check this page's IPA:
Otto once tried to correct a captain’s pronunciation of “Montrachet.” He said, “Both ‘t’s are silent.”
The captain said, “No. One pronounces the first ‘t.’ ”
“Are you French-Canadian?” said Otto.
Was (the pseudonymous) Otto being facetious about canadiens or is there a syllable boundary issue in Montrachet? Sparafucil ( talk) 01:21, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 03:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
I am adding a sustainability section. If anyone wishes to participate or help clean up and streamline other sections there is a discussion at the Canadian Wikipedians noticeboard regarding this project. It is a multi-city effort where we will be doing the same for other cities in Canada. TheKevlar 20:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Is this a joke? A user with no record of previously using this site randomly reverted my edit, citing a Wikipedia guideline that appears to exist only in his or her own imagination, and I am now supposed to waste my time reaching consensus? Is this meant to discourage occasional editors, who simply want to help out every now and then? Considering I had cited two very reliable sources, and no valid point had been made made to undermine my rationale, why on earth did you choose to revert my edit once again instead of, for instance, leaving it be until the hypothetical emergence of a cogent argument to question its soundness?
I apologise if I sometimes end up making personal attacks, but showing absolutely no respect for my time and the apparent lack of realisation that on the other side of the screen is a fellow human, from whose life you deduct with so little remorse, while not being a justification for my improper conduct, is the main reason behind it – and perhaps the foremost incentive for me to quit editing.
Since so far no case has been made whatsoever for retaining the current version of the article, I kindly appeal to @ Nardog – a well respected editor – to help us resolve this issue. Maciuf ( talk) 15:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Montreal ( /ˌmʌntriˈɔːl/ ⓘ MUN-tree-AWL or /ˌmɒn-/ MON-; [note 1] officially Montréal, French: [mɔ̃ʁeal] ⓘ) is...
Montreal ( /ˌmʌntriˈɔːl/ ⓘ MUN-tree-AWL or /ˌmɒn-/ MON-; [note 2] officially Montréal, French: [mɔ̃ʁeal] ⓘ) is...
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